Asrock H610M-HDV/M.2 Intel LGA 1700 mATX Motherboard $99 + Delivery + Surcharge @ Shopping Express

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Spoodster on 31/05/2022 - 13:17 shoppingexpress.com.au (267 clicks)
Last edited 20/06/2022 - 00:34 by 3 other users

All time low for a LGA 1700 motherboard.
This is most certainly for people on a budget. You basically get the bare minimum to run a decent gaming rig.
Would recommend an i3-12100/F or an i5-12400/F, but no higher than that. Certainly not a 12600K or anything higher.

Has very few features to speak of. No rear USB-C, only 4 USB ports (2 are 2.0). What you do get is:

• 1 PCIe 3.0 M.2 slot
• 1 PCIE 4.0 x16
• M.2 Key-E for a Wi-Fi card.
• Support for DDR4 3200Mhz (Memory is dual channel as well).

Definitely bottom of the barrel in terms of VRM quality so if you're running a 12400 then I would probably recommend buying a cheap aluminium heatsink on eBay for a couple dollars to stick onto the vrms.

Paired with the $149 12100F from Shopex you pay $250, which beats Ryzen at this price tier.

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  [Deactivated] on 31/05/2022 - 13:30

  -1

  Yeah hard pass on base level VRMS

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    ItsMeAgro on 31/05/2022 - 15:05

    +1

    I wonder if a bundle is worth doing instead?

    SE has the CPU most people would pair this with, the i3 12100F, for $150, but for $250 you get both the CPU and the Gigabyte GA-H610M S2H mother board in a bundle:

    https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/bundle-intel-core-i3-…

    Though it looks similar to this deal's asrock: bare minimum features.

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      Spoodster on 31/05/2022 - 15:11

      +2

      You get 1 extra VRM phase. I think on that basis alone I'd preference that deal if I was looking at a 12100F.

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  ChaLuo on 31/05/2022 - 13:31

  +1

  Any example of complete build cost? how is it compared with https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/703180

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    ItsMeAgro on 31/05/2022 - 13:49

    You'll have to put the numbers into pcpartpicker au but it'll probably be a bit more than that prebuilt Lenovo once you add a similar CPU, case, RAM, PSU (and wifi if you need it).

    So the Lenovo is cheaper and easier, but if you want to game, it may really limit what GPU you can get (low power, lower-end performance ones only, unless you can replace that 240W PSU despite custom Lenovo case and connectors).

    This would allow you to choose more RAM, an SSD, and whatever GPU you like, and the CPU will be a bit better.

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    scrimshaw on 31/05/2022 - 13:50

    +1

    This is current-gen LGA1700, while the Lenovo features the previous generation socket LGA1200. Basically not an apples-to-apples comparison because the CPU's they're using have nearly a 2 year gap between them.

    If you're building a complete PC based on LGA1700 it'll generally perform much better than the Lenovo as you'll be using newer Alder Lake architecture, but it'll also cost you more too and you'll need to provide your own Operating system. You might not be able to build a fully working 12-thgen Core i3 system for $499, unless you already have some PC parts on hand (Storage, Case + PSU etc)

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  ItsMeAgro on 31/05/2022 - 13:34

  I have a low-end Asrock like this, they aren't great, but they aren't bad for this price.

  My Asrock H61M U3S3 has been used daily since 2011, first as a mid-range gaming PC, then as the spare/kids gaming PC. Still running.

  One of the SATA controllers is now failing to boot until it's warmed up for a minute, so I'll replace it soon. And it's USB ports sometimes didn't work if too many were in use at once.

  But a decade of use is a decent run I'd say for a budget part. Worth considering if money is tight (e.g.: teen building their own gaming PC with an i3 from their pocket money).

  Looks like you need to spend closer to $140 minimum for other bottom-end LGA 1700 motherboards:
  https://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=lga+1700+m…

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    s20525xxx on 31/05/2022 - 14:51

    +1

    Funny you mentioned this, three of my ancient Gigabyte mobos (H85, H55, H61) are all stilling running after ~10 years, and my new GB B560 Elite broke after a few weeks. Build quality is not as good as it used to be, so are brands' reputation and QC standard.

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      OMGJL on 31/05/2022 - 15:05

      +1

      Build quality is not as good as it used to be

      Your CPU power requirement is not as low as it used to be.

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  OMGJL on 31/05/2022 - 15:04

  +1

  Assume they kept using the same MOS they've been using in the past few years, which is 1x Sinopower SM4337 + 2x Sinopower SM4336,

  checking spec sheet for the low side MOS:
  Tc @100°C = 40A (chip surface temperature)
  Ta @ 25°C = 18A (Ambient temperature)
  Ta @ 70°C = 15A (Ambient temperature)

  say it will deliver 40A, with 2 Low side mos then it's around 80A, at ~1.25v voltage it could supply about 100w.

  I'd say for a i5 12400 under normal gaming load this board should be just fine, under rendering/stress load for longer time it is definitely not ideal.

  I against user buy this motherboard if possible

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    ItsMeAgro on 31/05/2022 - 15:10

    +1

    How much more to get a LGA 1700 with decent VRMs, though? $50? $100?

    Maybe this is still good for someone whose budget is, say, a hard $600 for the whole build, with no wiggle room.

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    Vita85 on 31/05/2022 - 16:10

    Who cares? It's $99 with a three year warranty. $33 a year. Thrash the crap out of it and if it dies get a replacement. Then sell it with the CPU and get something else. CPUs are quickly outdated.

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      ItsMeAgro on 31/05/2022 - 17:19

      +1

      CPUs are quickly outdated

      Not any more. You're looking at around 10 to 15% performance improvement every CPU generation (with that improvement getting smaller each time). And a new generation only comes along every 2 years or more.

      CPUs currently one or two gens old can play current games without a human-detectable difference in performance (especially above 1080p).

      CPUs 6 gens old can still play current games (just not always at the very high framerates above 60FPS, and sometimes not with resolutions above 1080p, and/or max settings).

      By the time LGA 1700 is 6 gens old, in 10-15 years, the difference between it and new CPUs will be even smaller.

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      OMGJL on 01/06/2022 - 03:23

      +1

      back to my previous comment:

      under normal gaming load this board should be just fine, under rendering/stress load for longer time it is definitely not ideal.

      Your gaming load with full turbo boost will be somewhat around the 70~80w range, present this board have about 100w capability leftover when VRM run hot, this will not throttle under 80w, but it most certainly will throttle under rendering etc, as 12400f could run over 120w under full stress.

      So its not about damaging the motherboard (I agree to what you said about who cares just warranty it within 3 year), it's the fact you may not used the full capability of your CPU ever…

      Furthermore under full stress it will vdroop to around 1v~1.1v range, making VRM capability drop to around 80w~90w. note: in case if you don't know, VRM can deliver a set amount of Amp and almost not scale with voltage, e.g. a 80A VRM can deliver 80w under 1v, and 100w under 1.25v.