I share a car with my wife, who is on P2 licence (NSW), while I have the full licence. Now there have been occassions when she has forgotten to put the plates after I removed them for my use.
I am wondering if we were to keep the plates on, even when I am driving, would it cause an issue. If I were to be pulled up, can I explain it away?
Tnx.
Not an offense
Source?
As far as I can tell that'd be 'incorrect plates for license class' and would be grounds for a fine. Especially if the cop sees a speed mismatch or plays hardball.
Do you have a source saying that it's indeed illegal in NSW?
Before the current plastic L plates they now give out at the RMS, the old cardboard L plates said you couldn't drive on a full licence with L plates. The plastic P plates that have been around for decades never said that.
You make the claim, you back it up…
the old cardboard L plates said you couldn't drive on a full license with L plates
Which is a solid point for why the cops would pull you over and fine you. That statement is likely based in legislation, irrespective of the actual letter being L or P.
@Switchblade88: I’ll back it up. There is nothing in the NSW Road Rules nor in the NSW Road Transport (Driver licensing) act. There is also no fine associated with a fully licensed driver having L or P plates displayed on their car.
Sources:
NSW Road Rules 2014
NSW Road Transport (Driver licensing)
List of NSW traffic offences, fines and demerits.
Everything else you two gabbed on about is either only partially correct (it has nothing to do with “paper L plates”) or is just outright garbage (“incorrect plates for license class” isn’t a law/fine).
@pegaxs: Sources are much appreciated, thanks.
I can only offer my hearsay experience - I am aware of drivers having being fined for plate issues, and I would much rather be erring on the side of caution than a blanket statement that is deemed incorrect by a belligerent highwayman (err, officer…)
If the OP thinks that they can plausibly explain the situation (which they can) then by all means they can do as they please. Hopefully any officers would be understanding and it'll all be 'fine' lol
@Switchblade88: It may well have been a fine in the past, I am not disputing that part, but these laws are forever in a state of flux and are always being amended. What was an offence last year may not be an offence now.
And while it may not be illegal to drive around with the wrong plates on your car, I would not recommend it based on drawing attention to yourself. A copper may just be pissed off enough to throw the book at you for something else because they will feel you wasted their resources with what they thought was going to be an easy catch.
@Switchblade88: It was an offence for a full licence holder to display a P-Plate about 40 years ago but buggery was also an offence back then.
Laws change and people should be aware of current acts & legislation.
I think you will get fined, if you get pulled over and the officer hasn't had a snickers….
Depends on whether the officer likes the snickers with or without veins.
Why take the risk. Get pulled over by a cop in a bad mood and you’ll find out the hard way. Not only that, if you’ve got Ps on your car you are also more likely to be targeted by said police. They look for excuses to ping P platers
Just learn to install and remove them. It’s not hard.
I was pulled over for a breath test last year. I had forgotten to take my bro’s L plates down. The cop asked me if I needed the L plates. I said nah. They helped me take them down and wished me a good night.
I would be more concerned if she was pulled over for not displaying them after you have driven.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/technology/inno…
that's the good thing about Google, just ask it a question and it will find a answer
without the jokes on a forum
however does mean less entertainment if you use google
That's for Victoria; OP is in NSW.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/nm6ad5/is_it_illega…
reddit and whirlpool agrees that nsw is fine ( guy read the legislation)
once again I just asked Google if it was ok for nsw
Yet there's six people here who do not agree, going by the negs on my comment where I said it was fine …
@kerfuffle: And Reddit is just like OzBargain, where the most incorrect answer that gets the most upvotes.
So long as you give an answer that reaffirms someone’s piss poor knowledge, you will get the updoots. Give them facts, and it’s downvote time.
I don’t know how many times I have been downvoted for literally cutting and pasting the relevant legislation and citing the official source just because people don’t like the rule.
And that's the good thing about Ozbargain, someone who claims they know the answer will make a four paragraph post about it, but still won't just say the answer forcing all of us just to click your link to see what the frick you're talking about.
There's no fine for displaying an L/P plate eventhough if you're not required (at least in NSW).
OP you should at the very least verify that the sign is not obstructing your number plate, that will get you a fine.
No idea, but many years ago I was fined for display P plates on a full licence in WA.
I've remembered a story about some guy that just got on his fulls but decided to take his P's for one last ride before shortly being stopped and fined by the police.
My eldest on a full licence drove with her sister's P-Plates all the time.
According to her "It's perfectly legal but you have to abide by the P-Plate rules". She's a straighty-180 so she wouldn't do it if it wasn't true.
edit: We also have 2x Police Officers in the family and a discussion at a family dinner didn't cause any disagreement on the issue.
There was quite a kerfuffle when the police used L plates on undercover cars.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/unmarked-patrol-car-l-plates-a-jok…
I was at a parental seminar for learner drivers in NSW.
We specifically asked, and were advised that there is no issue if the kids forget to take the plates off and we are driving the car with them on.
Get one of these and put it on your roof - you no longer need 2 plates displayed and it is sitting there right in front of you when you go to get in
https://www.palaminoplastics.com.au/our-products/bseen-foldu…
You’ll be fine.