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5900X 12C / 24T - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/265156720554
5950X 16C / 32T - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/265156719701
AMD Ryzen 9 CPU 5900X $559.23, 5950X $764.52 Delivered @ Scorptec eBay
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get 5900x, better thermal, better performance
Is the 5900x viable with a B450 (MSI Mortar Max)? I was thinking of upgrading but was looking at 8 core, currently have R5 3600 for reference.
It should work but better to get a b550 board with better vrm performance
Yes, it's fine.
I have a 5900x running great on an MSI B450I Gaming Plus ITX board.
It's really just about the quality of the VRM, but the Mortar is strong for a B450 board.
The main thing you will miss out on is PCIe 4.0, but unless you must have the fastest SSD possible or you have a current gen GPU and you can't bear to lose about 2% performance (if that)… it really doesn't matter.As long as you have good airflow it'll be fine.
yea get the 5900x,
I bought a 5800X for ~$415. I think ~420 is reasonable for it, $499 not really.
Get the 5900x, the 5800x at that price isn't actually very good.
The 5900x has l3 cache much bigger which is good for games.
If you’re above 1080p it’s not gonna matter which one you get either way
I recently bought the 5800x, biggest regret now seeing this price for 5900x.
@Budju: OzBargain turns to OzRegrets if you keep tracking prices on what you've bought. Enjoy your 5800X, it's an incredibly good CPU.
The L3 is split across two CCDs and doesn't end up being a dramatic improvement really.
It's technically a 33% increase in available L3 for a single core vs the 5800X, but the same is also true for the 5600X.
The main difference is the small increase in clock speed, but the 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X are all generally within a few percent of each other in games, with the 5600X only a small amount behind (again, clocks).
True, I didn't realise that the architecture mattered that much. Still 12 cores 24 threads is pretty nice.
@Budju: If you'll make use of them, I certainly agree. And for only $60 more it's not exactly a back-breaking upgrade in the case of the OP.
Not exactly, the L3 doesn't span across the two CCX in the 5900X so it's really two lots of L3 which is why the 5800X is considered the better value gaming option.
The 5800X3D is the best performance option for just gaming.
5900X definitely easier to cool with less fan noise than 5800X. I was also able to undervolt the 5900X more effectively than the 5800X.
I noticed my 5800x is like 1.4v which seems pretty extreme.
Yummy I wonder if AMD make dual cpu motherboards or that's old school now
Edit: Ok they do its not Intel exclusive
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/dual-am4-socket-moth…Nope they don't, Intel it is lol
not for consumers
Really only for high-end workstation or server processors these days (Xeon or EPYC). Not like in days of yore when we had dual P///s and stuff like that (and even dual Celerons if you had the right mobo).
In the deal that came around last I picked up the 5950X, replaced my 5600X. Did I need it? Absolutely not, but did I do it anyway because of this place? Hell yeah.
Watching this thing under my Corsair H170i running at 55 degrees and only utilising 20% of the CPU power is a nice experience, and I dont do any simulation, benchmarking, video or photo editing just straight gaming, totally unnecessary
I'm in a similar spot with my 5600x, my strength to resist is weakening.
Completely unnecessary but still awesome.
I have a 5600x and I do a lot of photo editing and some video editing. I STILL have trouble justifying the upgrade.
Am I gonna do it anyway? Hell yes I am!
Im going the other way - bought a 5950x shortly after release and have never harnessed its potential. I've just bought a 5600x and plan on putting my 5950x in my server where it will hopefully get some use running multiple VM's.
What is the historical low for 5900X?
Good time to buy 5900X ?
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/694262
$549.46 with Futu Online via eBay with an eBay plus discount is the lowest I've seen it so far.
Any 5700x deal?
its too new.. im waiting for some sales on that one also
I'm also waiting for a 5700X deal!! Since it almost has the same specs as 5800X with a lower TPD….. should be a better buy. Dunno why the 58—- is still on the market??
The 5900x is $10 cheaper than the Amazon deal in Feb. Zero regrets, it's an absolute beast.
Bad deal. Just wait, you lot are so close to a whole new generation of AMD CPU's.
Zen 4 will be more expensive, is a new socket so will need a new motherboard, and reports state it's DDR5 only, so potentially a very expensive upgrade
You assume too much. Competition is getting fierce. I would expect it to be the same price, maybe even cheaper to encourage people to upgrade faster plus more heated Intel battle next gen.
You're saying he's assuming too much, but you're doing exactly the same thing.
@dreamscene: How is saying "maybe even cheaper" not an assumption? You're both assuming things you think will happen based on what? Nothing solid.
Supply is always scarce when a new gen drops, and first up there will only be the top end motherboards, no mid tier ones.
It’ll probably be $500 worth of ram and board, no matter good it is it’ll be unlikely to be worth it. As someone with a 3700x, the only thing putting me off is the cheap second hand chips when zen 4 hits.
So what you're saying is: a late-in-generation sale will be the normal price of the next generation when it's new? Not sure why, but I highly doubt that'll be the case.
@eepykate: This is no sale. This gen was over priced due to Intel dropping the ball with performance.
Of cos the older gen would get cheaper over time but do you not remember 30 series GPU that took almost 1.5 years to have their prices to be semi-acceptable for average users?
Plus one of those shiny new ATX 3.0 PSU's if you want a Lovelace GPU to go with it.
There's always something to wait for though eh? A new generation, a price drop, a wider range of companies products, a major sale. Sometimes you've just gotta pull the trigger.
Just once every 5 years.
It's a very good deal if you're looking to drop a new CPU into an existing setup.
5900x or save a few hundred dollars and get 5600x? Will be used mainly for gaming and paired with 3070 ti.
I'm no expert but from what I've just researched with my build, the 5600x was better value for a gaming rig.
If you are gaming at 1440p or higher, most modern games will be GPU limited so you would not get much gain from upgrading to the 5900X. Better off saving to upgrade to a 12GB+ GPU.
Most likely staying at 1440p and pretty much sticking with the GPU that I have. I’m building a new system, so you reckon 5600x + mobo or go intel 12th gen + mobo is better?
If you are going to compare AMD vs Intel, worth checking out the recent YouTube videos by Hardware Unboxed.
AMD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VicDbWo03S8
Intel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP2tKfOiHjkThey will be posting a video soon comparing the performance between the two.
Right now, Intel (12600k or 12700k) seems to be the go if you are doing a new system.
Why not save even more and just get the 5600 then, basically the same performance as the 5600x for $50 less
5600X for gaming. Games really can't take advantage of > 8 cores no matter what it is. On the other hand if you have an all in one workstation that can game the 5900X won't hurt (workstation things like Graphics, Video or VMs).
I've had a 5900X for about 5 months and I really can't get it to max out on anything other than benchmarks. I would've been find with 5600X (or even 5600G) but just wanted the headroom for the the future years. Who knows if I ever have a workload that stresses this.
Most likely not to be honest lol. At the moment the 5700x seems like a much better value for games.
Although I'm still considering this 5900x, so tempting……
I'm only running the 1700. Will hold out til next gen to upgrade, though these are getting more tempting as the price drops.. I just feel if i'm going to buy the whole setup (mobo cpu psu ram etc) may as well wait for next gen to hit…. in no rush. Thanks for the deal.
I'm in the same boat as you. All these deals have been so tempting especially with the thought of only needing to upgrade the cpu since my mobo supports it. But definitely don't need it yet hah
My approach is likely to be to pick up a 5900x to replace my 1700X once the x370 MB bios is rolled out, and the prices of the 5900X falls below $500.
Then wait out till the Zen 5 is old hat (~2024), and only then upgrade to AM5/DDR5 etc. - both so that prices have gotten reasonable, and because Zen5 looks like being the real thing capabilitywise (big.LITTLE, ML cores, 3D cache by default).
The 1700X to 5900X means a doubling in performance (which you should be able to feel) and assuming a Zen5 CPU with 24 total cores (Zen4 +Zen4D) should give another doubling on that.
x370 MB bios is rolled out
Which MB do you have? I thought x370 would never support 5000 series
x370 Taichi
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/amd-reverses-course-…
Still waiting on AGESA version 1.2.0.7, but previous versions have half supported 5000 series, and people are already running this CPU on these boards.
@sane: One of the best, if not THE best x370 board if I recall. It's great you get to reuse it.
I imagine you should also be able to get much better RAM clockspeeds once you upgrade the CPU too.
Intel must really be cutting into their sales for them to consider this. The board partners certainly won't like the perceived loss of sales on their end, but in reality I doubt someone like you would be buying a new CPU at all if you had to replace the MB too.
@greatlamp: The board has VRMs from hell, and should easily be able to power the higher core count CPUs. Not sure if the memory controller will significantly improve the memory topology of the x370 boards, but might chance throwing another 16GB in there, if the DDR4 prices remain low.
Stories today suggest that the Zen5 chiplets will move from 8 big cores to 16 big cores with the Lvl3 cache stacked on top. That might well mean the Zen4D densified hits 32 little cores - allowing for either 32 Zen5 cores or 48 Zen5/4D cores in 2024 - a serious amount.
In contrast Zen4 isn't supposed to have any more cores than Zen3, though they should run a bit faster.
Oh, and there was talk that a low powered iGPU on the IO die, which would essentially remove the APU/CPU distinction.
Hence why I'm looking to wait to jump to AM5 - by the time we get to 2024/25 we should either have some serious AMD chips, or better Intel competition, and a better decision can be made for a whole new box. 5900x can act as a tidy buffer till then.
Depending on your hardware, you may have the option of upgrading while keeping your current components and extending the life of your system.
It mostly comes down to motherboard support - you'll need an updated BIOS that can boot these newer chips, and then your motherboard's power delivery components will generally dictate how high up the stack you can go before things get uncomfortably hot.
If you're mostly gaming, an upgrade to a 5600 or 5600X might be worth consideration when they're on sale. If you're into more production/workstation stuff, the 5900X is a tempting upgrade at these prices.
If you're intent on building out a full system, I agree with you that you'd be better off holding out for now.
anyone find deals on 5600x or similar? I really should’ve got one from the afterpay deals
$312 (or thereabouts) is as good as it gets from what I found, using the same code and buying from Computer Alliance
That’s a decent price, thanks mate :)
Is it a worthy upgrade from 3700X ?
I bought this to upgrade my 3700x
worth it?
Will there be further price drop when next gen comes out (when does next gen come out)?There's always going to be a price drop. When next-gen comes out, there's also going to be a future price drop on that too.
Worth it.
Performance is very good. Way better than 3700x
Worth upgrade from 5600G, when I have a 3080?
if you're just gaming, even the 5600x is enough since you're playing at 1440p or 4k with that gpu
Awesome thank you for info
You say even the 5600X, but isnt the 5600G is worse than the 5600X?
I'd say less good. It's still a capable chip for the majority of applications.
When are you getting the 3080? 40xx series are meant to come later this year.
@Caped Baldy: I’ve been considering getting a 3080 or 3080 Ti when the 40xx comes out.
My rig is only a year or so old so dont want to swap my motherboard and everything for new chipsets/new CPU. Thats why Im considering this gen CPU instead of next gen
Thanks again for the help
@JeremyDealFiend: If it's mainly for gaming the biggest upgrade is the GPU. The CPU dollars could go towards a better GPU
what res do you game at? if 1440p or above, pointless
1440p 144Hz
Id consider upgrading to 240Hz or 4k in the next couple years
upgrade to zen 4 instead of this because your change in FPS will be marginal
I'm gaming @1440p on my 2600 with a 3080 Ti. x570 motherboard so Zen 3 upgrade is not an issue.
Just wondering what performance gain I will be getting. Anyone with similar setup but with better CPU can share their numbers? I'm wondering if it's all GPU bottleneck.Horizon Zero Dawn benchmark (1440p, Ultra Setting, Sync Off)
Average FPS 110
Max FPS 189
Score 19806I'm not sure about Horizon, but CPU vs GPU bottlenecking would depend on the game.
2600 -> 5900x would be massive FPS improvement in some games and not much in others.If you are getting high frames in the games you play now I wouldn't be in any hurry. These will only get cheaper when next gen comes out, or you may want to save for whole platform upgrade instead.
Note: I made the exact same CPU upgrade about 6 months ago, but mostly for productivity reasons and it is paired with a 5700xt GPU.
I haven't done any benchmarking, but games definitely feel smoother (1440x3440 ultrawide 100hz monitor) but not enough to have justified the purchase alone imo.True also. Guess i can wait for 5950x to dip to lowest as for now, most games runs over 100fps++ on the 2600.
I pulled the pin with Amazon at $798 for the 5950 and then I see this. Have been waiting for months for the prices to drop, and thought that considering the previous gen is still around this price it would not get much lower. I was wrong, but still will stick with what I have.
decided to ditch my 5800x which i had for about a year, it just ran very hot. This 5900x runs about 20degrees cooler.
Thanks OP, ordered one. Was waiting for the 5800X3D and while the performance was impressive, this is a significantly better deal. Cheers.
I am very tempted to get one of those cpu's too.
Just ordered the 5900X, upgrading from the R5 3600, curious to see the temps and the performance.
I was thinking about buying the 5800X for $499, but the 5900X seems like a much better deal in comparison