Qld Announces $3000 subsidy on EV's - Up to $58000
Includes:-
- Hyundai Ionic - From $54,442.12
- Kona EV
- Kia Niro,
- MG ZS EV,
- Mini Countryman
- Nissan Leaf.
** Excludes Tesla ** :-(
QLD Announces $3000 Subsidy on EV's - up to $58000 from 1st July 2022
BewareOfThe Dog on 16/03/2022 - 10:53
Last edited 16/03/2022 - 12:29 by 1 other user
Last edited 16/03/2022 - 12:29 by 1 other user
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DYOR
DYOR?
Is that a new Chinese car brand? How does it compare to DYB?
I honestly think QLD are being clever by excluding Tesla… in effect minimising their outlays.
pretty much virtual signalling… seen to be doing something but in effect, not doing much of anything
@kungfuman: Are they really though? They just have the biggest market share in our country. Kinda like iPhone without as good quality control.
@kungfuman: It’s a car. It goes from A-B. Tesla just has heaps of bells and whistles that are basically not necessary. Up against an ICE vehicle they are a long way ahead. Up against other EVs? Maybe a bit ahead.
I reckon I’d hate having to control everything through a serious of menus on a touch screen. I like my buttons and simple controls.
@Euphemistic: its not just any care it has autonomus features, driverless vechical functions. Which is something alot of people want. To be able to not have to drive it just drives for you.
@kungfuman: If I had $60k to spend it'd be a base model 3. with no fsd of course.
the above cars are just a risk… also think about resale
you know tesla has it
this either says a lot about tesla but it says more about the completely poor form of the competition
@tonyjzx: having a computer drive you is way better than a human, the risk is lowered. 60k is pretty much the norm for electric car at the moment but the more people buy them the less the price will be.
@kungfuman: Ooohhh autonomous features. Ok fanboi.
Autonomous features without FSD are just making drivers lazier - and more dangerous because they ‘learn’ to not concentrate as much.
@Euphemistic: i may not agree with this guy but i do think paying $10k for a beta fsd is kind of…
…get the f out of here elon
@Euphemistic: when full Autonomus features are finally legalised you won't need to even sit in the drivers seat becasue there won't be one. telling you care where you want to go and it just takes you there is the aim in the next 5 years. Taking the human out of driving will lower the accident rate, Humans cause accidents not cars.
@kungfuman: All praise Elon for giving us FSD. Oh wait, he’s just promised it? Won’t hold my breath.
Most modern vehicles have cameras, radar and electronic controls for going, stopping and steering (currently all it does is power assist) All it will take is software and plenty of makers are heading the same way as our Elon.
yeah thats stupid Tesla are the best electric cars out there would have loved to get a model 3 with this.
If you can actually get one!Not only that, prices are rising regularly on them,so it negates any savings.
More tax breaks for the rich.
Of course.
They pay taxes. It's fair for them to get something back.
Psst your toxic neoliberalism is showing.
We need to unionise anyone want to join the ozbargain union
The policy literally excludes "rich people" cars.
$58k EV ~ $44k ICE if you account for running costs over 7 years. Which is close to the average new car price.
yes this is needed as the rich need to be able to live the high life more.
Still way beyond my pay packet!!!
Hence why I didn't put it in the Deals section.really even after trade in of your old vechical? with me works out to much less after trade in. you also get that money back from the savings in not paying for fuel. Electric cars benefit you for the long term not short term.
Not sure how this is going to turn out. The last time the government did this was for the hybrids. What happened was that there was a huge take up in hybrids. It made a significant dent in the petrol tax because of lower petrol consumption that they had to remove the subsidy.
Wasn't aware there's ever been an incentive for hybrids? When was that?
I can't remember exactly, but I think it was around 2009 or 2010. I had a Toyota car salesman friend who told me he couldn't sell enough Toyota Priuses at the time, mostly to taxi license owners though.
Did it really make a significant dent though?
Diesels were down to similar consumption rates of hybrids, i would debate that 2-3l less / 100k would make a significant debt in the petrol tax.
Especially since half of Australia was addicted to gas guzzling Utes and SUV'sMy Diesel i30, is @6.4L per 100KM.
With the Prius of that era ~5.5L/100k's
It's remarkable just how frugal diesels were.
Even if the the whole 'clean diesel' thing was a bit of a sham.@Drakesy: There is one place my 2l diesel shows consistently 4.9l/km
and with 320Nm it has left every Prius in the dust.
good for you thanks for not getting on board with the future.
My Petrol 4lt Falcon is 7.9 lts per 100
The whole idea of a subsidy is to increase take up. Once they get that takeup they drop the subsidy.
It's nice that there's an incentive, but this is only going to help those who are buying "city cars" (under 250 km range). Which is fine, there are enough charging stations that you can travel long distances in these cars, but you'd be stopping more frequently and for longer, unlike a larger range EV. I would have thought a lot of Queensland EV buyers would be interested in something more suited to long distance driving, like a Model 3, Kona, e-Niro or EV6.
Maybe thats where they want to get more EVs? Part of it is to reduce pollution in congested areas.
It's possible, but I think it's more likely they cared more about optics than effectiveness.
Yes agree the higher population centres are where the public created pollution is occurring and the efficiency of our public transportation system needs to strive for more improvement.
Just like Biden! Wait for the red govt to take over and we will have tampon powered flinstone mobiles.
Hope Elon will sell a castrated mod 3 for 58k then once subsidy comes in u pay for upgrade for it to work faster. Already the case to some degree where u buy the performance upgrade on your phone.So got some info for you all on the Hyundai ioniq electric new ones come in Apirl, but only to test drive, if you order one you will wait 6 months to get one.
Come back to me when we can buy electric 4wds here .. another 4-5 years away at least.
I reckon they’ll be here sooner, but will be expensive or they’ll be small-ish range suited to city tradies.
Is the $58000 inc taxes and fees? or Excluding?
Buy a petrol or diesel car, the maths speaks for itself!
CAR+FUEL=COST-RESALE VALUE (my cars 10 years old, worth under half what I paid for it)
eCAR+CHARGING HOME STATION=COST-RESALE VALUE (resale value is $0 after 10 years or outside warranty)
- Their isnt enough Li for us all to have EVs, so costs are going UP and all that mining isnt eco, nor is most of the energy generated!
- Tesla is a good example of the new tech locking a car down to the maker/seller for life, its the problem with smart cars
- They will need to FORCE either the maker/seller responsible for the recycling of EV batterys. As of now you get 10c for a empty can but nothing for EVs!
- Lastly you get $0 3rd party support as you cant go to your own mechanic, get parts or the plans as legislations handing out money but not the rules we need if EVs are to work!
To refute a few of your points:
You don't need new hardware to charge your electric car. They can charge off 240v sockets just fine - albeit at a very slow speed.
- Battery recycling is becoming more prevalent. In fact, I remember reading that there was some recent research that found that recycled contacts in LiOn batteries held charge better than new ones.
- Yes, that's true - but the underlying electric tech is what's important. Saying that "moving to EVs is locking you in for life" is like saying "getting a Model T means I can never use my horse again!"
- Refer 1.
- Yes, true. But as EVs become more popular, more mechanics will be trained in EV servicing.
We are in the early stages of EV usage.
Resale value is a bit of an unknown, but at 10y it won’t be worth $0. Batteries are proving to last longer than expected and in 10years there will probably be a market in replacing them. The rest of the vehicle should outlast an ICE by a long margin.
Efficient recycling of batteries will require a reasonable sized source of material which we currently don’t have. In 10years this will likely be economical. Right now wrecked Tesla’s are selling well because people are buying for their batteries and motors to put into classic cars. It’s a niche, but growing area. If batteries are a bit far gone for an EV they will work well in home storage for a few more years.
As for mechanics? Why would there be a business set up to service them right now? There isn’t a market for it because the EVs are so much more reliable and require less servicing. It’s a niche product, when it becomes mainstream it’ll be a mainstream business to service them.
QLD Announces $3000 Subsidy on EV's - up to $58000 from 1st July 2022
BUGGER I misread the title and understood:
Now is a $3000 subsidy, but from 1st July 2022 could be up to a $58,000 subsidy.
I wish.
No Tesla?