Taking Revenge on Scammers

Everytime I try to sell something on Gumtree, I get the classic scam message: "Hi, I'm away on business, can I transfer you and send for a courier?"

It's time to turn the tables. If I provide the scammer with my BSB and account details, wait for the money to clear and then withdraw the funds, there's nothing the scammer can do right? I am even willing to let the scammer have the product, therefore making the transaction completely legitimate.

Has anyone successfully thwarted an online scammer before?

Comments

  • +10

    wait for the money to clear

    Except that it wont

    • -2

      So will it just appear as pending before they put in a claim with their bank?

      • +6

        They'll send a screenshot of a fake transfer

        • +4

          I guess if this happens, if not an instant transfer, estimate when it should be in your bank account, then even it's not there, instruct the scammer to pick up, locate an empty land property, leave a box of nothing in there or worthless things you want to get rid off.

    • Not always. They might have hacked someone else's account or be depositing a fake cheque. In the latter situation I believe it won't come out of "pending" so you can tell but in the former situation the bank will take the money back (banks won't help if you deliberately send money to someone who then doesn't send you anything but if your account is used without your permission they generally will).

  • +3

    Only thing I can think of would be to replace the item with a big pile of shit, so they waste money via the courier?

    • It will be the biggest pile I can muster

    • +1

      flaming bag of poo!

    • +3

      Unless… You send your big pile of shit…. And then the funds clear bcos it was a legitimate buyer.

      I would look forward to seeing the ozbargain post "purchased something from gumtree and paid electronically but got sent a pile of sh1t"

  • As the Ferengi would say - there is no profit in this.

    • +1

      It's not about money… it's about sending a message.

      • +1

        Nice send them a message your time is worth nothing and you like messing around with scum .

      • +1

        We got a joker over here!

      • I remember a video where package thief get glitter bomb when they open the box. Surely it will be cleaning up for the scammer - hopefully they don't just air task it to someone else to clean up while they air bnb when the place get clean up - all with someone else's card.

        • A video? There's a while channel dedicated to it.

          There was also a group back in the day that scammed the scammers.. now it's too big to stop.

  • +5

    Ignore them and get on with your life.

    It will be water off a ducks back for them and you would have wasted that time and effort.

    • Best bit of advice on the thread!

  • +1

    if you got time on your hands just lead them on

    the time spent on you means they can scam someone else

    lots of people show that

    i do it sometimes on phone calls just to have some fun

  • +2

    For the local run-of-the-mill scammers who want to pay by paypal etc. and pickup (so they can reverse it later) I just send them on a nice 100+km drive to pickup my item from a Bunnings carpark, where I never intend to show up at.

    • Do the scammers normally do the pick-up themselves or do they send a courier from a courier company? I wouldn't want to do that to a legit courier company

      • +1

        There's a few different types of scams. You might want to Google and get your self Familiar with the scams first before attempting to trick the scammer, otherwise you might still fall for it.

        You've already given your bank details, hopefully they won't do anything dodgy with it, like setting up direct debits.

        • Have not provided them with my details yet. Currently buttering them up to do cardless cash… will keep this thread updated!

      • Na the "off shore rig" / courier type scammers I just completely ignore and block.

        More desperate peeps sometimes try the Paypal reversal scam, or fake bank account screenshot before pickup scam, those I get a giggle from sending on a looooong pointless drive.

  • +2

    Normally there is no courier or transfer , they will often just send you fake correspondence claiming to be from the bank or from PayPal saying that the money is held and you need to send proof of payment for the courier in order for funds to be released.

    Others have stated fake payment verifications , this is not always correct , they send genuine ones that are future dated and cancel them. I use the term genuine because they are generated by the bank so you can't identify any changes/forgeries

    There is zero reason for you to play along with them , money is never sent to you.

  • +2
  • +1

    You are exactly the type of person scammers target.

  • +1

    Get their fake documents and send fake ones back.

    I have an Word document I use to make up fake Osko deposits. I just put in the name they say and the BSB/acct and it spits out a real looking bank transfer.

    And for the record, they are not going to send you anything and they usually don't want your shit. 99% of them are "over payment" scams or "pay my courier for me" scams. They either send a fake notice of payment and then pretend to freak out that they sent $1000 instead of $100 and want the $900 sent back, or they will get you to pay their courier with your money (they will send you a fake deposit for $1000 + $200 shipping and ask you to forward the $200 shipping to another person.)

    I do a lot of scam baiting. It's a great sport and mostly harmless.

    • I'd rather stew in my own ^arts than waste time on em .

  • +1

    Here's your next link to check: https://www.419eater.com/

  • +1

    I’ve had a few of these. Stein them among for a bit and they send a link where I can ‘receive my payment’. THere is no direct deposit, they want you to clock a phishing/hacking link and get you details that way.

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