Cheap LED Globe and beats Aussie ebay stores by 0.60c not awesome but a good deal if you buy a few of them :)
I dropped a CFL globe the other day and dust went everywhere. No more poison bulbs in this apartment anymore
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http://greenconcepteco.com.au/led-a-shape-bulbs/philips-12w-… It's a good looking piece but at 2700k it would be very yellow, and only 12w - dimmable to what, for what? Nice in certain situations but not for seeing anything properly. Maybe if I could vary the wattage and colour temp I'd pay $67.
"If people can't fathom spending $67 on a light bulb just wait a few years." Care to elaborate?
They will come down in price.
are these what Phillip claims will last for 20 years?
given that LED Technology has not matured yet, I will rather wait.
2 years from now, LED will be much better and gone down in price.
the price is still quite astounding, considering LED light technology have improved quite a bit, like my torchlights are now running 600lm on AA batteries.
Would love to see the prices lower, then it will be totally awesome to be able to light up an entire house equipped with solar panels without breaking the bank.
with the heat generated from the LEDs, might be a beneficial sideeffect to heat up the house too.
It's possible to get 12w LED lights for $20, or $70. The difference is light quality, electronics quality and robustness, and light distribution. Torchlights don't have to bother with AC/DC conversion electronics either.
Heating a house with lights is inefficient compared to air conditioning and such. Also the heat is generated near the ceiling, not where people actually live.
Thankyou, I opened this thread because I wanted to ask why some are priced at $60. Now I know.
To be honest though, $15 vs $60 I dont care if it dies four times quicker. But I do care about light quality.
agree with the AC/DC conversion complexity, though I wasn't saying that torchlights are cheaper/better. I'm pointing out that 600lm LEDs are nowadays possible with AAs, so very soon we can see brighter LED bulbs for home use.
LED does produce quite a fair bit of heat, even though it's localised, thats why torches would need ample heat sinking otherwise the torch would be too hot to even hold. I would think that would be the same for the bulbs. Also, these heat generated are for the time being 'waste energy'.. so until someone smart enough to invent something to tap the heat for proper use, we have to stick with conventional heating methods. :)
You're right slowmo, LEDs generate a fair bit of heat when producing lots of light. Torches also have the advantage of projecting light in a narrow angle, greatly easing the difficulty of providing high light output.
My OSRAM 12w LED light's heatsink runs at 85C in an open light fitting. That's wasted energy that could be used to produce more light. The current generation of LEDs convert blue light to white using a phosphor. Hopefully the next gen will be more efficient.
A saving of 60 cents on the shipping only hardly makes it newsworthy, but 60 cents is 60 cents, I suppose.
noooooooooo…. if you buy 2, then you gotta $1.20 with $1.20 you can go to the dollar shop to buy somethin'!
I've got 9W Epistar MR16's (~450-500lm) which only match around a 40-45W Halogen. I doubt a 6W can match a 60W Incandescent.
I do wonder how shops get away with advertising low watt LED's to replace high watt globes where the performance doesn't even get anywhere near.
"I do wonder how shops get away with advertising low watt LED's to replace high watt globes where the performance doesn't even get anywhere near."
It's similar to the early days of CFLs, with silly claims such as a 9w CFL replacing a 50w incandescent. A 5x multiplier was completely unrealistic. I always assumed something around 4x. It's about time manufacturers dropped the "X = 60w" rating anyway, as it's always referring to an incandescent light that's very difficult to buy today. They were phased out several years ago in favour of halogens. Young kids today may have never seen an old style incandescent in use.
Who uses ES (screw-in) bulbs in Australia anyway ?
+1 to comments suggesting comparisons should be (legally enforceable) in lumens, not watts.
IKEA for one, has all their floor standing lightings in E27 (afaik).
desk lamps are often E27 too. I personally prefer the screw bulbs, bayonet ones always gives me the jitters for breaking the bulb if i push too hard.
ES (E27) is a problem for me as many companies now have abandoned B22 (bayonet) fittings. I've just built a new house and it's almost all B22, yet like slowmo says, stores like IKEA are 100% Edison.
Bayonet is used in countries with a historical British connection. India is the biggest market. Everyone else uses edison.
My entire house came with E27 bulbs.
no point, u can buy philip extra bright for similar watt, but much cheaper price, which can do the same thing.
CFLs consume more energy mate. Newer technologies are always more expensive prior to mass adoption stage.
indeed
I have to disagree on this point. Some CFLs are more efficient than LEDs. I have some Mirabella 18w warm white CFLs that claim 73lm/w efficiency. That's higher than the current generation of LEDs (Philips, Osram, etc). However I still use LEDs were I can. Switch on time is instant compared to minutes for the Mirabella (especially in cold weather). I've never broken a CFL in 15 years of using them, but LEDs are more robust and there's no mercury laden dust and debris to clean. Light quality seems better with high quality LEDs (using a CD as a diffraction grating to test).
I have to agree to disagree, because it's afterall a manufacturer's claim, it's not like there are ample tests and 3rd party tests (like what you see in CPF forums with torches), where they measures and compare a whole lot/batch of bulbs in lumens.
In that sense, I am skeptical that a CFL will be more energy efficient.
Brighter and better accurate colour reproduction, at this stage of LED development, yes with CFLs, but more lumens per watt? quite unlikely.Lets give it another 5-10 years, we are seeing LEDs replacing cars aux/parking/signal lamps already, so it's just a matter of when the mass adoption will happen.
FWIW, i've replaced my entire household's incandescent bulbs to CFLs about 4 years ago, and I was able to maintain a somewhat low energy bill (and the CFLs paid for itself in ~2 years), so I'm actually excited about this drop in LED pricing where I can make the jump again.
"6W - replaces up to 60W incandescent"
A 350lm semi directional light bulb won't replace a 60w incandescent.
Bunnings is selling Osram Parathom Classic A 40 lights for $22 for 8w, 30w equivalent, 345lm output. Using one as my desk lamp and it's rather nice. But I would never call it a 60w replacement.
A better bargain on the site is this:
http://greenconcepteco.com.au/led-a-shape-bulbs/philips-12w-…
$67.10. Lowest local price I've seen. It's currently the king of LED lights. If people can't fathom spending $67 on a light bulb just wait a few years.