Kingston XS2000 Portable SSD 2TB $358.09 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU

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One of the smallest, fastest USB SSDs you can get at one of the lowest prices seen at $358 (according to Camel, lowest was $342. Normal price is $400+).

USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 performance:Industry-leading read/write speeds of up to 2,000MB/s

To compare, the Sandisk Extreme Pro (also 2000MBps) is over $100 more ($467).

Ships from Amazon US. Price/shipping for everyone (not a Prime-only deal).

EDIT:
To compare with a Build Your Own:

You need a 2500MBps SSD to get to 20Gbps. So, the cheapest one would be a Crucial P2 2TB for $259 (PLE), plus a Wavelink 20Gbps enclosure for $99 (Amazon) would be $358.

This is much smaller, and much more durable for the same price.

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  justtoreply on 17/02/2022 - 14:59

  Not interested so i won't check personally but just be wary of sustained write speed. Because i presume to hit 2000mb/s there's a buffer involved.

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    havebeerbelywillsumo on 17/02/2022 - 16:32

    Plus quality/memory flash type etc etc…may be mentioned but as Justtoreply "Not interested so i won't check personally"

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    PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 17/02/2022 - 17:06

    +1

    A comment below in an Anandtech review shows sustained of 2000/1800MBps R/W. Looks okay to me.

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  vovka on 17/02/2022 - 15:26

  +3

  Not sure why spending that much on external drive when you can get a PNY NVME for $209 and install it into an enclosure like UGREEN ‎10902 for $38

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    netsurfer on 17/02/2022 - 16:47

    +2

    Because it is USB 3.2 gen 2x2. I am not sure Urgeen has an enclosure for that yet, but I do know Urgeen sell Thunderbolt 3 enclosures.

    USB 3.2 gen 2 actually only operates in PCIe gen 3 x2 NVMe mode (or SATA3 mode, if you have a chipset that supports both). So, generally, if you get a mid to high tier NVMe PCIe gen 3 x4 SSD, it is really an overkill. That's why with T7, Samsung didn't put in a top notch PCIe gen 3 SSD (coz. it is pointless).

    USB 3.2 gen 2x2 will require people moving towards Intel 12th gen or the next AMD AM5 platform. I am unsure Intel wants USB 3.2 gen 2x2 to succeed since it has not implemented the support of that in Thunderbolt 4 nor USB 4. External SSD makers are milking the customers because technically, the chipset is not that expensive. Mac users or anyone who has Thunderbolt 3/4 based devices and a deep pocket probably prefers Thunderbolt 3/4 (though that has some other issues to be honest).

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    PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 17/02/2022 - 17:00

    10Gbps enclosures are about $35-$50.
    20Gbps enclosures are about $100
    40Gbps enclosures are about $140-$250.

    to get a 20Gbps card, that requires a 2500MBps SSD inside.

    So, you're looking at a Crucial P2 2TB for $260.
    Then you need a 20Gbps enclosure, like Wavelink's for $100.

    That's $360. Almost same price, but this Kingston is smaller, tougher and cheaper.

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      netsurfer on 17/02/2022 - 17:34

      +1

      That's the normal price. The OZB price would be:

      10GBps enclosure: ~$30-$40 (if you opt for the recent SATA3 based 10GBps, the cheapest could actually be below $15, price has gone up to $20).
      20GBps enclosure: ~$55
      40GBps enclosure: ~$100

      Obviously, that's based on going for the cheapest option. You probably can get even better price if you waited for occasional discounts, vouchers and combine with cashrewards / shopback.

      Enclosure DIY route: you want decent sustained write and willing to fork out $$$ to get a decent SSD. Ideally, you need to get thermal pad to keep the controller chip cool (since most cheap enclosure won't support a heatsink).
      External SSD route: you just want plug and play and you are not too fuss about sustained write. SSD management software works (so if you want to upgrade SSD firmware, you don't need to take the SSD out, put it in a PC, upgrade, then put it back to the enclosure). However, you do need to live with the cost cutting measures makers elected to use (i.e. DRAMless, aggressive SLC cache with generally ordinary TLC NAND flash true write speed).

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    vrsac on 17/02/2022 - 17:00

    +2

    Ugreen enclosure is 10Gbs max transfer speed and Kingston is up to 20Gbs

    https://www.cablestogo.com/tech/usb-c

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    Willy Bargin on 17/02/2022 - 20:04

    was going to reply to the same thing
    2tb nvme are the same price as 2.5 now days

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  [Deactivated] on 17/02/2022 - 15:51

  https://www.anandtech.com/show/17052/kingston-xs2000-portabl…

  Not the best design

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    PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 17/02/2022 - 16:55

    Looks like great sustained speeds, everything. Maybe I missed something?

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      netsurfer on 17/02/2022 - 17:21

      +1

      Based on that AnandTech article, below is my interpretation (basically look at the result on the last page):

      The 2TB one, when the SSD is completely empty, has a SLC cache of 394GB. Once the SLC cache runs out, falling back to the 100 MBps range.

      https://images.anandtech.com/reviews/das/2021-/pssd/Kingston…

      Thus, it has roughly 20% dynamic turbo write (it doesn't look that way in the chart because once it slowed down, it needed more time to complete the write). So, the rest of that 80% was written at a speed that's roughly 10 times slower (the x-axis is time based). However, pretty much none of these standard tech site reviews perform half filled drive and close to full drive tests. You could argue from that chart, it does try to recover, but since the test kept feeding data to the SSD, all those recovery attempts were not able to make much difference.

      Great sustained speeds… well, no, it's only great SLC cache speed. However, the reality is that, it has a later gen SSD controller with now very aggressive dynamic SLC cache. If you managed to exhaust that, it is pretty ordinary. You won't get that much SLC cache once the drive is half filled or close to fully filled. Also, if you opted for 1TB or 500GB model, you get much less SLC cache.

      If you care about sustained write speed, you will be disappointed with a lot of newer mid range SSDs. Older SSDs might have better sustained write once SLC cache is depleted, but they tend to have older controller with much smaller, often static SLC cache. Question is, do you really write a lot of data to SSDs very often? If not, wouldn't a faster and generally larger SLC cache be better?

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      [Deactivated] on 18/02/2022 - 11:42

      -1

      You're missing ability to salvage your data when you eventually rip out Type-C connector.

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  Alderson on 17/02/2022 - 16:11

  +1

  Probably a dumb question, but what's the difference between this and a Samsung T7?

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    netsurfer on 17/02/2022 - 16:44

    If you have a device with USB 3.2 gen 2x2 port, then you could get up to 2000MB/s sequential read speed. Sequential write speed, well, probably only when the SLC cache is in play. If you don't have a supporting port, then you will get USB 3.2 gen 2 speed max. So, in that case, it "might" be the same as T7. However, T7's sequential write after SLC cache is exhausted is subpar so there is a possibility these USB 3.2 gen 2x2 devices (being newer) might have a more aggressive SLC cache and/or better NAND.

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    PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 18/02/2022 - 13:00

    T7 has a max of 1050/1000MBps R/W.

    This has a max of 2000/1800MBps R/W.

    Bigger numbers mean faster :)

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  netsurfer on 17/02/2022 - 16:39

  +2

  Note: if you PC or laptop does NOT have a USB 3.2 gen 2x2 port, then you won't get 2000MB/s sequential read. And, NO… Thunderbolt 3, Thunderbolt 4 nor USB 4.0 needs to support USB 3.2 gen 2x2. Thus, currently, none of them does that.

  So, if you have a Mac, even if it is M1 Max with Thunderbolt 4, when using any USB 3.2 gen 2x2 devices, you will basically be using it at USB 3.2 gen 2 mode. It's the same for any Intel or AMD based devices with Thunderbolt 3 or 4 but does NOT have USB 3.2 gen 2x2.

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  blibbler on 17/02/2022 - 18:21

  How does this compare to this bargain: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/683591
  It seems cheaper, but does not store as much. Am I missing anything?

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    Willy Bargin on 17/02/2022 - 20:06

    that a hard drive you put into your PC or NAS or server …. this is a USB hard drive you can plug into laptop and pc