Looks like a really good price for the budget conscious builds, a last mile upgrade if you have a b450 board, or anyone waiting on GPU prices to fall (lol)
Based on my google skills, this CPU isn't quite as fast as the 5600X, but is definitely a step up from a 3600 - so not a terrible unit.
If you're looking for an Octa core CPU, they have the Ryzen 7 5700G for $437.48
Solid advice; I wouldn't spend this type of money on an upgrade from a 3600.
My poorly worded advice was that if you're considering a new CPU then this one does perform better than the 3600 - less of a boost in gaming, but it's not really a gaming orientated CPU afterall.
True, this should go in a dgpu less desktop. If you are using it for gaming, you are doing it wrong.
insert jab to a few prebuilt deals around ozbargain lately with 5600g
5600G is pretty good for ITX builds where the PCIe slot is taken up by something else. Or for people who don't want/need a discrete GPU. Its a pretty decent step up from 2xxxG and 3xxxG CPUs so a reasonable upgrade for some people wanting to get a touch more performance out of their AM4 systems.
Any advice if an upgrade form the 5600G is worth it for this build?
Mainly play Valorant, Halo infinite and CS:GO.
Got a PC from this post:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/666615 but AMD version
Plus got this mobo:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570%20Steel%20Legend%20WiFi%2…
If you're just playing games I'm sure the 5600g in that system would perform just fine with the 3070ti
even less of a worry if you're playing at 1440p and higher
Thanks OP, I have B450 with 2200G, definitely worth that to upgrade 5600G with this price, greatly appreciated.
wondering if an Asus Prime B-450ma run this processor without any issue?
Also, is it worth spending $312 to upgrade from a Ryzen 5 2600? Significant performance improvement?
I've done a build with this CPU and ASUS B450M Plus II, definitely faster than a 2200g and also Windows 11 runs well on it. For gaming it should run OK 1080p and for all normal processing (Office, Chrome) it won't break a sweat.
Your motherboard supports it but upgrade your BIOS first to 2409 or higher (latest BIOS for your board is 3211).
Link to CPU support: https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards…
If you do upgrade to the 5600G and don't need the 2200G anymore let me know as I have an A320 board that could use a CPU.
i'll keep this in mind cheers.
Now you have me interested in trading in my 2200g. Are you in Sydney?
@Jayfizzle: Yes, in Sydney. But no longer need the 2200g. I went with an El Cheapo Athlon 3000g ($110 shipped) for the A320 board as it'll be my 'junker' PC to just try Linux or odd stuff on, maybe stick on some VMWare and use the 16 GB RAM for older OSes. The A320 box which was the 'family PC' for about 1.5 years just needed a chip to become usable again (the RAM, SSD, case just sitting around collecting some dust).
Now the family PC is a 5900X, X570 ROG and RX 6600 XT (sorry I just can't accept 4 figures for a GPU). Playing some 3 yr old games is my limit and some emulation/retro. Did a video conversion once and it took 5 mins. Might try to do virtualising the GPU in the future when I have time and see how many laptops can use it in the house (kids actively gaming).
While I'm excited about AM5 and DDR5 to be honest I won't be doing another from scratch build for 3-5 years (maybe when AM5 is about to end and AM6 is being talked about).
Even have 2011/2012 circa laptops from Lenovo/HP rocking dual boots, SSD, Win 10, 8.1, 7. For fun the Lenovo had a socketed CPU which I upgraded from Core I3-3120M to Core I7-3632QM for about 110. Except for the HP from 2011 most of the other PCs are fast enough for Netflix/Office/Chrome without breaking a sweat.
"wondering if an Asus Prime B-450ma run this processor without any issue?"
According to https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ no - you might have to upgrade the bios on the mobo.
gotcha thanks
I have this APU and really happy with it paired with my B550 Tomahawk.
I have yet to try it out on heavy gaming, but for everyday use it's served me well.
M on 2400g, usual developer eunninh visual studio, sql server mgmt studio etc. 2400g does the job but apparently slowly..
Any suggestion if I should go for 5600g?
I've got gigabyte x470 board
YMMV but I find iGPU very useful despite having discrete on all my machines.
I usually don't find the F series Intel processors to be discounted anywhere near enough to make up for losing it.
Go with the 5700G as it has 8 cores and 16 threads compared to the 5600G is 6/12 will make compiling faster. I got 2x16GB 3600Mhz CL18 ram.
You can compare the specs on the following page:
https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/amd-ryzen-7-5700g-vs-a…
Max ram frequency 5700 supports 3200, sorry if I'm mistaken, is there any specific benefit for choosing 3600hz one?
The B550M and 5700G uses the XMP settings to overclock the RAM to 3600Mhz.
the g model is the one with the graphics chip built in right?
Correct
This or wait for rdna 2 APU?
next gen of desktop APU might be on AM5 so you'll need a new motherboard and possibly new ram.
This chestnut. The longer you wait the cheaper and faster CPU's get, but the more bloated apps get so they cancel one another out.
If you are happy with your PC now and do not want it to go faster then wait, otherwise do some research and see how much faster a new PC will be and how much it will cost.
I don't know if the price vs performance makes sense in this case but I see a lot of people saying Intel has come back with a vengeance as far as CPU.
Yes, they have but the Mobos (LGA1700 Socket) and RAM (DDR5) are very pricey and more than AMD mobos and RAM. If you're doing a NEW high-end build and you want the fastest CPU then Intel is the one right now. When AMD does release AM5 and the next Ryzen series I expect a flip on the performance king (Intel chasing again). But again, latest always comes with a pricing hit.
This should have an rrp of $249 and a street price of $220.
Honest question and not having a go, but do you have a link for this?
I want to upgrade my 2200g but $312 feels pretty steep.
US prices.
but is definitely a step up from a 3600 - so not a terrible unit
Not really, the difference between it and the 3600 with a dGPU would most be imperceptible to the human eye, and depending on the games and cache usage, it can actually be slower.
The only reason to buy this is to use it as a GPU, if you have a dGPU and an AM4 platform go for the 5600x, if you have no mobo, look at Intel.
I bought one of these to do video editing with (don't need GPU). I want to do a PC build with a Mini-ITX case. I believe the mobo with X570 chipset is better than B550. What is the best motherboard to use out of these 6?
- MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wi-Fi
- MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max
- MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus
- Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master
- Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wi-Fi
- Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX
No need for anything special for a 5600G
IF you want WiFi ASUS Tuf gaming B550M-E from Shopping express looks okay.
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m…
Thanks mate, is mATX the same as Mini-ITX?
Different size - mATX is a few centimetres bigger than mITX.
Hank - sorry I accidentally downvoted your comment :(
I went to +, it didn't work, so I tried -, it didn't work, spammed both, and it ended up negative and I can't change it :(
@ywpn: 😛
I missed the mini itx part and saw the MB list. The B550I (I for mini itx) Aorus Pro AX is mini itx. Personally I'd just go for a small ATX case.
@Hank Scorpion: Thanks mate, I hate big PC's, much prefer small form factor so for this desktop build I've already bought a NR200P Mini-ITX case and the 5600G CPU, but need help choosing a motherboard. Some people say the X570 chipset is better than the B550 so I'm not sure what to get for a desktop used to run MS Office and do video editing. Any suggestions for a motherboard with Wifi would be appreciated
@[Deactivated]: X570 ITX boards from main companies:
2 Gigabyte (X570 and X570S)
1 ASRock
1 ASUS
Not a lot of choice. All are expensive. B550 is much more affordable but there is only PCIE 3 from the chipset.
To get PCIe 4 speeds from the NVME drive you would need to use the M.2 slot connected to the X570 chipset as 5600G only provides PCIE 3 speeds.
Save money on the MB and get decent 2 x 32GB 3600MHZ CL18 or faster memory and a fast Samsung 980 pro 2TB SSD for your video editing. For storage get a spinning HDD.
Just a heads up - although you don't need a GPU for editing and rendering, it helps a lot.
When you make huge edits in something like Davinci Resolve Studio, it's creeping slow when it uses the CPU.
It's also a huge time saver rendering with the GPU - depending on your edits you'll render in half the time.
In saying all that, most (if not all) free video editing software limits you to CPU, so if you have no intention to shelve out money for software that will utilise the GPU, then ignore everything I said :P
Thanks mate, that's good advice. I've already bought the 5600G CPU so now I just need to find a good motherboard that will fit into a Mini-ITX case
Hi again, this one is going for around $360 shipped and hits all the buttons you're looking for.
ASUS ROG Strix X570-I
Get a PCIe 4.0 SSD like a Samsung 980 Pro and a spinning HDD (most any will be fine) for data storage. The 5600G won't go faster than PCIe 3.0 speeds however. It's more for future proofing if you upgrade the CPU down the line to something that supports PCIe 4.0.
Ideally for this you want to spec like this:
3600 MHZ DDR4 RAM (check the compatibility list on the ASUS website first, sometimes called a QVL to see what they tested and get one of those kits). 32 GB min for video stuff, 64 GB if you can.
PCIe 4 SSD, 1 TB Samsung 980 Pro. If you are sure not upgrading then you could use a PCIe 3.0 SSD instead (Samsung 970 Evo).
Spinning disk (for storage): Most brands OK for this. If you intend to keep it on 24x7 for media server duties (i.e. Plex server) then get a NAS drive. I'd say 6 TB or 8 TB would be a sweet spot.
PSU: 650 or 750w Bronze/Silver PSU, if 24x7 duty pay a bit more for reliability in the PSU. If you add a GPU down the line the PSU will handle it fine.
Fans: Only if the case doesn't have 1-2 built in get some case fans, they tend be pretty cheap. Most Mobos will not handle more than 2-3 case fans + 1 CPU fan. For the 5600G I generally find it runs stable with stock cooling and doesn't need anything extra. Should you upgrade to a 5900X in the future and add a GPU re-visit the cooling situation as that will definitely run hotter and in a tight case you don't get as much leeway for cooling. You could consider a 240mm AIO cooler a that time.
@amaslam: Thanks again mate, you've been very helpful. Sorry for all the questions but I'm a bit OCD so just double checking things in case I buy the wrong item and it's not compatible. I think this is the mobo you recommend for $360:
https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/motherboards/amd-socket-…
How does this one compare for $280, or is it worth paying $80 extra for the one you suggested:
https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/motherboards/amd-socket-…
@[Deactivated]: Good comparison. Mainly it'll come down to: Will you upgrade the CPU or GPU in the future? (i.e. 5900X , add GPU)
No: Go for the B550 model (bottom link)
Yes: Go for the X570 model (top link)
Note both boards will support all AM4 Ryzen processors (upto 5950X at least). It just whether or not you're an upgrader on current system on how much headroom you want (X570 is their top chipset).
Me personally would go for the B550 model and flog it (use it heavily) until it feels slow and then do a new build on AM5/DDR5/Ryzen 6000/7000 etc. future CPU a year or two down the line.
![[eBay Plus] AMD Ryzen 5 5600G CPU $312.30 Delivered @ Scorptec eBay](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/43/681943.jpg?h=d965161b)
note that if all you want from an cpu upgrade is for gaming, which I assume most people would be, 5600g is not a worthwhile upgrade from 3600, you will see minimal, single digits of fps gains.
For starters, both 5600g and 5700g are just unlocked mobile 5600H and 5800H chips. The 'problem' with this generation (and the 6000 series as well) of ryzen mobile chips is that AMD only gave them 16MB of L3 cache which greatly affected gaming performance. Don't get me wrong, they are very good CPUs by themselves in all other aspects, but just let down by the smaller cache - for comparison, the intel 11th gen mobile equiv of 5600H/5800H have 18MB(11600h)/24MB(11800H) L3 cache respectively, and the desktop 3600/5600x both have 32MB of L3 cache.