Dishwasher for rental

Lchocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 14:38
Last edited 31/01/2022 - 04:43

Hi ozbargainers
Our dishwasher in our new rental has just died, less than 1 month after tenants moved in (although it was fine for the 5 years we've used it). It runs until the very end, during rinse cycle it stops.

I'm guessing it would be cheaper to buy a new unit vs getting someone to come in and fix it?? Does anyone have experience with this?

Any recommendations on a cheap reliable unit preferably with good warranty in case it dies again?

Edit: a lot of you seem to recommend the Bosch. I had a look and it’s just too expensive for me at the moment (with bills and stuff coming up). Any reasonably good cheap units that you guys have experience with?

Edit: would it be reasonable to ask tenant to install the dishwasher? Or should I pay the $150-$200 and get installation included?

Electrical & Electronics Dishwasher

Comments

  • bargainy on 30/01/2022 - 14:55
    +10

    Cheap and reliable don’t usually go together.

  • try2bhelpful on 30/01/2022 - 14:58
    +3

    Just before you replace it does it come up with an error message and have you ensured it has been cleaned out in the bottom trap and the intake for water.

    We had a Miele dishwasher installed and it worked fine, for a little while, then kept stopping part way through with an error message. Initially we found there was a little bone that got stuck in the outlet trap, which we removed. However, we found we were still getting an error message, occasionally, and it turned out we were getting grit in from the intake pipe. We cleaned that out, as well, and it’s been fine since then. Might just be worth a bit if investigation before replacing.

    Best of luck.

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:16

      Hi! I’m not very handy but the tenant is. Could you please let me know how to clean out the intake pipe? Tenant has cleaned out drain pump and spray arms and restarted it a few times. I did research and think it might be the wash pump? Water is all drained

      • try2bhelpful on 30/01/2022 - 21:30
        +2

        Ensuring the water is turned off at the dishwasher tap you unscrew the hose from the intake tap and then see if there is any built up of grit. It might be a bit of a Hail Mary.

        It is a shame that getting something repaired costs so much. We ended up trading in our 13 year old Miele washing machine because the repair costs weren’t worth it compared to a replacement. The repair guy gave us 50 bucks and said he was going to recondition it, which was fine by us. We had a Liebherr fridge no repairman would touch either.

        It is hard with rental places to get the right price point. Best of luck.

        • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:43

          Thank you! Will try this

          • try2bhelpful on 30/01/2022 - 23:45

            @chocohoney: I would check with the manual first to check around the connections. Not sure, exactly, what your setup is. :)

  • Drakesy on 30/01/2022 - 14:59

    i bought one of these
    I think this is the newer Version

    for $399 and it's been going great for 5 years now.

    Not complaints for me, replaced a $1200 Asko which lasted 6 years before dying.

    Better at cutting through dirt than the asko
    Barely ever requires a secondary wash
    All round was very impressed given the price.

  • holdenmg on 30/01/2022 - 15:00

    Probably best looking at a Changeover where they take the old unit away.

    https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/article/summer-deals/?cu… do this sort of thing and are pretty competitive (also checkout the Cashback via Shopback)

    Assuming Built-In and standard swap-over without Taps and other issues you are looking @
    https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/product/altus-60cm-frees… $351 w/3YR Manuf. Warranty. (deselect the $120 Care Plan). Use the Register for 3YR Warr @ https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/altus-extended-warranty-…
    T&C's @ https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/images/opt/promotions/al…
    (Use the Promo Code "SUMMERDEAL20"

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:19

      That looks quite cheap! Anyone with this unit? Is it any good? It’s replacing a basic Westinghouse but my REA also told me I need to replace like for like. For example if it had buttons to begin with then I need to find another with buttons.

      Edit: unfortunately this looks out of stock from where I am

    • saintpotter on 31/01/2022 - 01:50
      +1

      Thanks! Great deal and reviews look good. This one is out of stock but I called and got them to (reluctantly) do the same price for the stainless steel version. 3 year warranty is a bonus.

      • holdenmg on 31/01/2022 - 07:47

        Cool. :+)

      • bargainisg8 on 31/01/2022 - 22:37

        Hello,
        I called AppliancesOnline and they said they can't reduce the price for silver model to match the while model price unless I provide them the invoice. By any chance, if it's convenient for u to pm me the receipt pls (of course after scuffing your details), that'd b great pls. Thx.

        • holdenmg on 31/01/2022 - 22:54

          Hi,

          It wasn't me but saintpotter that was the buyer, so they might PM you in time.

          Otherwise, I'd recommend you grab the White @ ~$332 or pay up for the Stainless Steel @ ~$413 knowing you can ultimately get the 10% Cashback from Shopback until Midnight tonight.

          • saintpotter on 01/02/2022 - 07:56

            @holdenmg: Hi - its not allowing me to PM you for some reason. Pls message me and I will reply.

            @holdenmg - Would love to know, can this be installed by someone who is relatively novice at DIY - or would you recommend paying the $199 for installation?

            • bargainisg8 on 01/02/2022 - 11:04
              +1

              @saintpotter: Hi @sainpotter,
              It was me who requested for the receipt, please. Can u pls try to pm me? I tried to pm u but option of 'Start a Conversation' is disabled for your profile. Thx

  • me1stt on 30/01/2022 - 15:13
    +1

    Kmart sells dishwasher now: https://www.kmart.com.au/product/60cm-freestanding-dishwashe…

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:22

      Any good? Does anyone have this that can tell me their experience? I don’t want to spend money on a dud

  • AustriaBargain on 30/01/2022 - 15:20
    +9

    Whatever you do I'd do it fast, your tenants are paying for a house that has a dishwasher. Most landlords I ever had would take months to respond to something like this and take hours of my time before they finally act on it. I think the average owner is more comfortable in the role of a slumlord than a landlord tbh. One day late on rent and they'll speak to you like you're a thief, but when it comes to maintaining the property they would sooner never repair something if you let them.

    • Oofy Doofy on 30/01/2022 - 15:40
      +1

      People like that need to buy REIT's instead of investment properties. I know what you mean. I've complained about flooding under the floorboards in a rental (something to do with the kitchen water supply piping, on my own investigation), proceeded to kick me and 2 other people out. Afterwards I even felt guilty for letting the landlord know.

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:23
      +1

      Yeah I agree. I got the email on Saturday so planning to get it sorted this week…..

      • NingNangNong on 06/02/2022 - 09:53

        Wish my landlord was this fast! Our balcony door completely ripped off its hinges during winter, leaving our main bedroom uninhabitable. Took 5 days to get a new one…
        We also asked for aircon and now need to pay $15/week more to cover it (wanted 20..) despite living in Sydney and it being hotter inside than out because it's a trash building.

        I would refuse to pay installation costs btw. It's your bloody house, they may be there for one year and then gone and you expect them to chip in? You havin' a laff or what? ;)

  • jace88 on 30/01/2022 - 16:07

    Ask your agent what they think. Realistically a tradesman to check it out/try to make a repair or tell you it's bust will cost you $100-$200 anyway, so if you have reasonable grounds to believe it's really died (was it new when you moved in?) then maybe just get a new one and get the tax deduction anyway. Your RE agent should also have commercial/trade pricing on this stuff and can probably suggest a decent value model too which may not be super fancy but will be reliable and cost effective.

    As a landlord myself, I accept some of these things break down over time and it's part of the cost of maintaining an investment property.

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:24

      Yeah I agree that’s why I’m thinking a new unit rather than getting someone in for a call-out fee to tell me it’s broken. I will check if my REA has commercial pricing

      • jace88 on 31/01/2022 - 10:50
        +1

        My REA just uses Good Guys Commercial, but if they quote you a price, you can always just sense check to make sure it's a reasonable number.

        • chocohoney on 31/01/2022 - 10:54

          Ah ok. I do have access to Good Guys Commerical so will check. Thanks.

  • thatonethere on 30/01/2022 - 16:13

    It is a gamble to try and fix it as the call out costs aff up fast (and in the end may not fix it). You could ask the tenant to clean the filter first (get them to send photo of the filter).

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:26

      Are you referring to the drain filter? Apparently they’ve cleaned the drain pump and filter. But yes I could get them to send me evidence before replacing to make sure. From my research, it might be a water pump issue…

      • thatonethere on 31/01/2022 - 08:52

        The photo is just to make sure they have actually cleaned the floor filter - not just said they have done it.

  • Gratt on 30/01/2022 - 16:21

    The controller boards on dishwashers have mechanical relays. These are constantly switching on and off in a washing cycle. Five years of use will see many worn out.

    In my daughter's rental I replaced the controller board (bought on eBay) and a similar problem went away. It took me about 20 minutes as I was slow and careful. Plenty of help on YouTube.

    Worth a go if you have a background in electronics.

    • AustriaBargain on 30/01/2022 - 16:59
      +1

      Researching the required board, finding where to buy it at a good price, figuring out how to disassemble the machine, scheduling a time for you to come in to do it, travelling to the property, will all take more than 20 minutes. If OP has a job and overtime is available to him then he might make more money putting all that time and effort into doing more work than taking a crash course in dishwasher repairing. Charging $2 for tapping the engine with a hammer and $9,998 for knowing where to tap.

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:37

      I had that thought too. But fixing electronics would be beyond me

  • SmiTTy on 30/01/2022 - 16:41
    +3

    Just buy a new one and depreciate it.
    Personally, I try not to dwell over these things or spend too much time on these things for an investment property (unless your feel there is something fishy going on - but these things do fail and 5 years is not a terrible lifespan)

  • buoyant on 30/01/2022 - 16:52

    My dishwasher died in what is soon to be a rental. Ended up coughing up the extra for a series 6 Bosch. Was a few hundred more than the cheapies but now I don't have to worry about it for the next 10+ years.

    • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:28

      Are Bosch really that much more reliable? How is their warranty?

  • slick7 on 30/01/2022 - 17:16

    Bottom of the range BOSCH has been amazing. Not many options but less to go wrong and cleans super well even with the cheapest home brand dishwashing tablets.

  • oscargamer on 30/01/2022 - 17:33

    Buy a new one.

    It's tax deductible.

    Save money by removing the old one and installing the new one yourself.

    • thatonethere on 30/01/2022 - 18:36
      +2

      Or installing the new one in your house and putting your one into the rental ;)

      • holdenmg on 30/01/2022 - 18:50
        -2

        or…

        Buy them some Palmolive and a tea towel. Put up a sign with "Sink" lol

        • NingNangNong on 06/02/2022 - 09:59

          Lol, very funny. Must be nice to be fortunate enough to have purchased more than one property to let it go to hell and make people pay exorbitant prices to live in. But yeah, lol

      • chocohoney on 30/01/2022 - 21:30

        This is so smart. Pity I can’t transport it

  • Stewardo on 30/01/2022 - 19:15

    Buy a $800 Bosch and claim it’s cost and install thru depreciation.

  • Waltervp on 31/01/2022 - 09:54

    I had a5 yr old smeg dishwasher and it also gave an error at the end. I believed it was the pump but working but in the end found a little plastic thing that just fell out of the drainage hose at the point where it connected to the sink drain, not on the dishwasher end!!! I thought that was most unlikely, but heard it was common.

    If I had to replace it I would get one from Facebook marketplace…. I'm cheap like that…. and ask the tenant to install it and reduce his rent by 100 for a week :).

  • Lastchancetosee on 31/01/2022 - 11:07
    +1

    Dishlex has proven to be a reliable and inexpensive basic dishwasher in our experience, if you're after five years of wear. Miele if you want to go the extra mile.

  • OzHunterNSW on 31/01/2022 - 18:23
    -3

    Simply pull it out and convert space into under counter storage.

    Who said you need to supply a "dish washer"…. who else is doing this…. no one.

    So pull it out…. and tell the occupants a fairy tale about how rent will go up if….

    • NingNangNong on 06/02/2022 - 10:01

      If it's there initially, then, um, they bought into that fact. You're a straight up boomer douchebag

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