New Tyres or Not?

kimba88 on 22/01/2022 - 23:19
Last edited 23/01/2022 - 21:35 by 1 other user

OK, can anybody help decide on what I do here please?

I'm booked in to get the P7s next Saturday from this 50% off deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/665952
My current tyres are Kumho (the original tyre the car (Kia Cerato) came with brand new 2.5yrs ago) and have done close to 60,000kms. However, they still have a fair bit of tread left in them. I had Jax check my tyres in December and they said they'll last a while longer. I have a small nail in one tyre which probably should be repaired, but I wasn't sure if it was worth it.
I also have the mycar deal (spend $400 and get $100 back) saved on my Amex card, so I should be able to get the P7's and an alignment for just over $300.

By getting this deal, am I just wasting money? My current tyres probably have at least another 6-12months in them minimum. I might even be able to make it until the next black Friday deal, however, I wouldn't be able to use the $100 off a logbook service voucher that also came with the deal.. And I am due for a logbook service soon. The next capped price service from kia is >$600..mycar charge cheaper and can get the further $100 off.

Can I further capitalise and try and sell my Kumho tyres cheaply second hand?

OK, here's a couple of pics of my tyre tread for clarification. They have about 5mm or so on them still
https://ibb.co/Ybtf172
https://ibb.co/GHnbdbd

Thanks.

Poll Options

  • 30
    Go ahead and get all 4 new Pirelli's
  • 2
    Get all 4 Pirelli's and sell your kumhos cheaply
  • 2
    Only replace the most worn tyre/s
  • 17
    Keep the current kumhos
Automotive Pirelli Tyre

Comments

  • Jugganautx on 22/01/2022 - 23:39

    I got the P7's and they are a terrible, hot sticky mess of a tire. Fuel economy tanked also about 15% until i switched back to my previous set of FM800's which i highly recommend instead.

    cancel your order and get your money back.

    • kimba88 on 22/01/2022 - 23:55

      Oh no! I think they have a 30day guarantee of you don't like them. Did you get a refund?
      I haven't paid any money yet since I made my booking over the phone and had the quote emailed to me.

  • MS Paint on 22/01/2022 - 23:39
    +3

    You took the ozbargain mantra

    Buy now, think later

    A bit too seriously

    • kimba88 on 22/01/2022 - 23:57
      +1

      I guess since I knew my tyres were coming close to 60,000km, I thought they may not last too much longer..based on usual tyre life, etc. Since I've had to service my car regularly from driving so many km's/year, I've always had the tyres also looked after with regular rotations, etc.

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 22/01/2022 - 23:45
    +8

    I have a small nail in one tyre which probably should be repaired, but I wasn't sure if it was worth it.

    Dude.

    • kimba88 on 22/01/2022 - 23:51

      My thoughts were based on knowing that I was already booked in for next Saturday to get new tyres.. That's why I haven't done anything about the small nail. It's got a very slow air leak.

      • slick7 on 26/01/2022 - 08:52

        Have you at least switched the punctured tyre as the spare? It's like a 15min job and if you are getting new tyres you can always ask for the best remaining tyre to be kept as spare.

        • kimba88 on 26/01/2022 - 16:30
          +1

          I haven't yet. I actually went to two tyre places for opinions (including the one where I am meant to get my new tyres) and they both said my tyres were actually in amazing condition and I could easily get another 10,000km or more. I also told them about my slow leak puncture and they both didn't seem too fazed. One said they had no availabilities to repair until next week. The other said he could repair it this Saturday, pending on if I decided to keep my current tyres or get the new ones. The front tyres have 5mm tread left.. The back have 4.5mm tread left. I'm still undecided on what to do about keeping my current with a puncture repair or replacing them, but they told me to come in on Saturday and discuss again.

          • slick7 on 29/01/2022 - 10:25

            @kimba88: Do you have a full size spare? A puncture repair tyre will be absolutely fine (I managed 2 separate screws in same tyre on my expensive Michelin PS4s within first 15K km and I'm still going strong 20K later). If you're worried swap the puncture repair with spare. That was my plan until realising my spare is an average Dunlop touring tyre and my other 4 are much grippier Michelins. Same tyre size and even speed rating so on rear of FWD car it'd be absolutely fine for lots of km.

            So don't worry about tyre having been puncture repaired. When deciding on replace or not, consider thread remaining, age of tyres (less than 6 years from manufacture date) and performance of the tyre (if it's a shit tyre like my OEM Nexens and you lose traction in wet roundabouts you might end up replacing with over 50% thread left like I did).

            Let us know what happens after your next tyre discussion…

            • kimba88 on 29/01/2022 - 13:58
              +1

              @slick7: I have updated! See at the bottom of the thread! I'm quite happy 😊

  • George Washington on 23/01/2022 - 00:03
    +1

    I got P7 nothing but squeaks every time i go around a roundabout. I think it is because the tire gets warmer then most other tires i have used.

    Go with Toyo proxes c100 I put them on my other car cheaper and runs like a dream. If your in sydney there is one in Guilford AAA tyres cheaper then other places. In west ryde it was 160 and in Guilford it was 120

    • MondaySleeper on 24/01/2022 - 11:23

      Is it really that bad? I booked in for p7 this friday. Not sure if i should go ahead.

      Googling shows good review about P7

      • slick7 on 29/01/2022 - 10:32

        Depends on tyre size, car you're putting them on, driving style and any expectations you might have. I've recommended P7s for my dad's 2013 Honda Civic hatch and they've been super impressive. They've reached 60K and don't yet need replacing, outperforming the OEM tyre significantly. My dad's a bit aggressive with his driving too (more speeding fines, quicker brake pad replacements and more accidents in last 15 years of driving :) )

        • kimba88 on 29/01/2022 - 13:57

          I hope the car accidents aren't due to poor tyres 😬

          • slick7 on 29/01/2022 - 16:11

            @kimba88: :) no - just getting a little old for the revel of risk he takes so managed to run into the back of a car :(

  • [Deactivated] on 23/01/2022 - 00:56
    +8

    Can I further capitalise and try and sell my Kumho tyres cheaply second hand?

    No , no-one is going to want to purchase a set of tyres that has already done 60,000km to start with , especially if one has had a previous puncture. Don't try to be a cheapskate and risk another persons life for the sake of $50-100 even if they are stupid enough to want to buy them, just get them exchanged over.

    Jax check my tyres in December and they said they'll last a while longer.

    How long is a piece of a string? , the bare minimum tread required before a tyre needs to be replaced By Law is 1.5mm..if you have anything less then that your car is not roadworthy and if it were involved in an accident then your insurer might refuse compensation, let alone the emotional or financial distress you would go through had you changed your tyres earlier. Also have some thought for other road-users , if they were in the same shoes as you would you not want them to be driving in a safe and roadworthy vehicle near you?

    Personally speaking just because 1.5mm is the minimum , doesn't mean its safe. if you care about yourself and your loved ones you would be getting them swapped over sooner then that ..any tyre with less then 3mm tread depth is on its last legs , any tyre when worn down that much has lost most of its performance and safety features and becomes way more of a risk for them to be left on and if you hit a massive puddle at any form of speed or its bucketing down rain on the highway , pray that luck is on your side , Tyre's are cheap but losing a loved one or getting a disability for life through a preventable accident for wanting to try and save a few hundred dollars is lunancy.

    I wouldn't be able to use the $100 off a logbook service voucher that also came with the deal..And I am due for a logbook service soon.

    You even said it yourself , your car is due for a service and the reality is …it is saving you more money in the long run then what your tyres are currently worth now.

    I have a small nail in one tyre which probably should be repaired, but I wasn't sure if it was worth it.

    (☉_☉)

    I hope you're not serious.

  • Euphemistic on 23/01/2022 - 04:10
    +2

    Can I further capitalise and try and sell my Kumho tyres cheaply second hand?

    Stock cerato tyres with 60k on them? They aren’t worth squat. You may be able to sell them with rims to someone looking for a cheap set of wheels to pass rego, but that’s about it.

  • apsilon on 23/01/2022 - 06:17

    However, they still have a fair bit of tread left in them.

    Tread left as in they're not bald or tread left as in above the wear indicators? There's a significant difference.

    Used tyres with that many km aren't worth anything, in fact you'll need to pay a disposal fee to get rid of them and you'll pay that fee even if you decide to keep the old tyres because the tyre shop wants to make sure they're covered.

    • kimba88 on 23/01/2022 - 07:27

      They are well above the wear indicators. It's definitely over 5mm tread

      • apsilon on 23/01/2022 - 07:50

        Are you sure about that? New tyres are only around 9mm so you're saying you've used 4mm in 60k km. It would also mean you have ~4mm of usable tread left so another 60k km. I find it hard to believe you're going to get 120k km of life from some OEM Nexen tyres.

        • kimba88 on 23/01/2022 - 15:44

          Yep, I just uploaded a couple of pics to the original post. Take a look.
          The car came with kumho ecsta hs51 tyres.

          • apsilon on 23/01/2022 - 15:53

            @kimba88: If they're genuinely the original tyres with 60k km on them you've done very well. No need to change them IMO though they're more worn than you initially said. Keeping in mind wet braking and cornering does drop off the shallower the tread is even if it's still technically legal, I'd expect at least another 20k km from them.

            • kimba88 on 23/01/2022 - 16:00

              @apsilon: Yep, they are genuinely the original set. Yeah, sorry.. After you said about 9mm brand new, i thought I should double check that. Jax told me about 2months ago now that I had 5-8mm at that time.. I think each tyre might be slightly different.. But definitely no less than the pics I've showed. That is why I was questioning whether I could sell them off cheaply. I'm not looking to put anyone's lives at risk, I think they are still genuinely good tyres.. I just didn't know how much more they had on them. I mostly did highway driving (approx 130km/day - 5days/week)..but now it's about 70km/day and a bit more stop start.

  • silenthillrocks on 23/01/2022 - 08:45

    Just do it

  • pegaxs on 23/01/2022 - 08:55
    +1

    Where is the “get the puncture repaired and keep the old tyres on until a better deal on tyres comes up during the year” poll option?

    • kimba88 on 23/01/2022 - 15:47

      I tried fixing it, but it doesn't seem to add any other options now. Either way, if I'm keeping my kumhos, that was a given I would be fixing the puncture.

  • pharkurnell on 23/01/2022 - 10:14

    Can I further capitalise and try and sell my Kumho tyres cheaply second hand?

    Theres a huge market for nearly bald tyres with 60k klms on em with nails in em… Nort fiddy

    • MS Paint on 23/01/2022 - 10:17
      +1

      And they all drive VT commodores and specifically want 15" to fit on the stockies

      • pharkurnell on 23/01/2022 - 10:18

        stocking up for Summernats next year for the burnout pad…

        • MS Paint on 23/01/2022 - 10:19

          Nah. Just the local industrial estate on a Tuesday night

  • kimba88 on 29/01/2022 - 13:56

    UPDATE: After getting the opinion of the assistant manager, we decided to keep my current tyres on and fix the puncture (as he seems to think I might have another 12months in the tyres because they are in that good condition from my highway driving). I got his opinion at the start of the week. He also said to me he would call his area manager to see if I could purchase the new Pirelli's (to take advantage of the Black Friday deal and Amex) and store them at mycar until I was ready to fit.. However, they were unable to keep them there but suggested I could store them at home and have them fitted when it was convenient for me. So I have purchased the tyres and have prepaid a wheel alignment to get it over $400 for the Amex deal. They even fixed my tyre puncture for free today!

    So all up.. $343 for 4 new pirelli p7's, a wheel alignment, $100 off my next logbook service, and the free puncture repair. I'm quite happy with the service I received from my local mycar! Have even already left a 5 star google review!

    • slick7 on 29/01/2022 - 16:20

      Not a bad outcome. Store the tyres away from direct sun and get the manufacture date from them to calculate 6 years from that date and ensure you don't wait too long to fit them. I remember getting a fantastic deal on some Yokohama Parada Spec-2 in 2010 for my hot hatch. Turns out they were already 2 years old and with the 5000km per year or less I use to put on that car I only got to enjoy the tyres for just over 16K km before they went hard and crackly and had to replace.

      https://www.bridgestone.com.au/Learn/Maintenance/Age-of-a-ty…

      • kimba88 on 29/01/2022 - 16:42

        Oh that's such a shame you didn't get much use out of your tyres. Definitely a good tip to look out for the expiry. I will be storing them inside the house in the back room away from sunlight. So they should be all good for when I need them 😊

    • marc171 on 08/02/2022 - 00:16

      Which is your local mycar store? I am having a hard time getting my nearby stores to match my supercheap auto invoice deal i got on Australia day. And which website were you price matching against for your tyres? 😊

      • kimba88 on 08/02/2022 - 12:27

        Narellan. The service I got was so good.

        I didn't do a price match.. It was an actual deal that I purchased on black Friday.

        I highly doubt they'll match an invoice from Australia day, if it's not a current deal. Plus, I was told by the Manager they only match tyres they stock there.. Not tyres they have to order in.

  • kkm on 30/01/2022 - 09:32

    Australia Day supercheap auto offered 25% off including tyres from tyroola. I just replaced 2 sets 20" (michelin pilot sport suv) & 17" (continental mc6) cheaper than Tempe tyre.

    May be keep an eye on the next offer probably something come up in Anzac day or Easter.

    • kimba88 on 30/01/2022 - 10:40

      Yeah I saw that.. My partner took advantage of that with some bf Goodrich tyres for his Ute. Got them at about $1200 fitted.. Compared to previous quotes of $1600.. So he was happy.

  • marc171 on 11/02/2022 - 09:51

    I managed to get a deal for Conti MC6. Got it down to $113.50 per tyre including alignment. Is this a good price? First time tyre buyer. I was initially considering the Bridgestone RE003 for $128 per tyre including alignment but was worried about the low UTQG of 220 vs MC6 of 400. Which deal will you take? I know tyres are personal preference but i am not a speed demon haha.

    Oh and i haven't even factored in the sweet $100 off from Amex :)

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