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CyberPower Value Pro 700VA 390W UPS $94.40 ($92.04 with eBay Plus) Delivered @ Shopping Express via eBay
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Last edited 17/01/2022 - 18:21 by 2 other users
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I have two Cyberpower UPS' and I have succefully bought a replacement, non-original battery from eBay for ~$40 delivered. No need to spend $100 on a whole new UPS if a new battery will fix it.
Good to know, will do next time! Do they actually last OK?
I was actually a bit disappointed in the longevity of the cyberpower battery considering all I needed It to do was stop instant power off's of my server in the event of a tiny outage or voltage drop… It has been a few years but you'd think it would be able to do that still for like.. 150w load.
Most UPS batteries are replaceable and pretty common off the shelf from BatteryWorld and other battery resellers.
Either lookup the type of battery from the user manual, or just dive headfirst in and remove the battery and take it along to BatteryWorld.
There are usually a few different 'tiers' of battery, quality wise that is.I've had the replacement for probably 2-3 years, so goes great! Here's the seller I bought from;
https://www.ebay.com.au/str/lanplusaustraliaptyltd
I got a 12V 9Ah HR1234FW
There will be instructions in your UPS manual about replacing the battery. Mine was just under a hatch in the case, didn't have to disassemble. Take the old one out, make note of the capacity (12V) and model (HR1234FW), then find a cheap replacement. Sometimes the model numbers have different numberings, but they are equivalent, a la button cell batteries.
Good luck!
@Dvbargain: I found the ones from lanplus didn't seem to last (my experience only). The ones from Jaycar seem to be ok and easily available. The 9ah is $40 on sale at the moment. 7.2ah is around $30 from memory.
@leyton01: FYI,
Bunnings sell the 7.2ah for $28.61
https://www.bunnings.com.au/century-battery-1270l_p0097912
The spec of this UPS says the battery is not user replaceable.
you better not replace it then #banthescrewdriver
How much time of use until the batteries died?
depends on how much load you a putting onto it. usually these little ones will get you around 10minutes,
As in when the battery needs to be fully replaced due to degradation?
According to the specifications, 10 minutes at half load, 1 minute at full load.
Out of curiosity, for what do you use the UPS? Thanks!
Can use on computers, etc so if you get a power outage you can shut the PC down properly to minimise risk of data loss. I have one on my NAS so it shuts down properly if power is out for a certain length of time. Also have my PC and other bits and pieces connected to it. It's a higher capacity one than this one, but there are calculators around you can use that will show approx run time depending on what is connected to it.
Thanks mate for the detailed response!
Are you better off getting one with Pure Sine Wave? This seems to be simulated Sine Wave.
Pure Sine Wave will cost aprox $214.50 at the moment after 22% eBay plus discount (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/233349844468)
So approx $120.10 extra but has the following advantages:- Non replaceable vs Replaceable battery
- 700VA vs 900VA (390W vs 540W)
- Simulated Sine Wave vs Pure Sine Wave (Better for electronic devices)
- Circuit Breaker vs Internal Current Limiting & Circuit Breaker
- 3 Ports (3x battery & Surge-protected ports) vs 6 Ports (3x Battery & Surge + 3x Surge-only protected ports)
- 100x227x260mm vs 100x230x275mm
- 5Kg vs 7KG
Regarding Simulated vs Pure the following link might be of interest (reading the first answers with the most votes):
https://superuser.com/questions/912679/when-do-i-need-a-pure…Personally, I've found most of my devices work perfectly fine with a simulated UPS and have used them for many years with no issues, however, I do have some equipment such as a network switch that does reboot at times when using Simulated UPS's but has never rebooted when using a pure Sine Wave UPS with the limited testing I've done..
How is operation noise of the pure sine wave model you listed?
Audible Noise at 1.0M from Surface of Unit ( dBA ) 34.2 dBA for the Pure Sine Wave unit (CP900EPFCLCDa).
- I can't hear it when it's not running on batteryThe VP700ELCD unit this deal post is about is rated at 40dBA if others are interested…
For electronics like a PC, router, hdd. modified/simulated sine wave is usually ok. Anything that actually wants to use the AC it's less of a good idea.
With regards to PC, I thought it depended on type of PSU you were using? Some require a Pure Sine Wave or you may encounter issues?
Out of my depth and willing to admit it.
What sort of thing wants to use the AC?
Also a bit out of my depth, basic understanding of electronics. Things that use AC in my mind are generally things with motors or heating elements. AC motors use the sine wave and get weird if they just get the top and bottom of the wave.
There could be gear that has issue with the modified sine wave for sure but I've always (potentially incorrectly) assumed anything that was just going to convert it to DC anyway wouldn't have an issue.
How loud are these models?
Cyberpower website reports Audible Noise at 1.0M from Surface of Unit ( dBA ) 40dBA for the VP700ELCD unit, if you looking at the pure sine wave CP900EPFCLCDa unit they are rated to around 34.2 dBa but costs about 120 extra with the 22% discount currently… I have not noticed a noise from the unit at all when it's not inverting DC to AC (although I do have the Pure Sine wave unit but I'm sure the Value Pro would be the same in that very little noise when it's not running on battery …
Thanks!
I'll need to choose between one of the two.
anyone can recommend a good 1Kva one?
is APC technically better than Cyberpower or both pure sinwave equal?Also , datasheet says batteries are not user-replaceable , is it just bull crap and we can change or in reality can't be change?
Definitely replaceable. Probably means they didn't build a hatch and you'll have to unscrew everything (voiding your warranty) to replace it, but otherwise a trivial process to replace.
got it , thanks mate!
This or Tesla Powerwall 2?
Well, the Cyberpower is cheaper, but on the upside the Powerwall will power a PC, for uh, let's see, 187 years.
Obviously this.
Tesla power wall has no lcd screen.
I have an old Value1500ELCD which I bought back in 2012. I was unplugged back in 2017 when I moved house and only brought back up 2nd half of 2020 because I bought a NUC11. I notice there are power dropouts/brownouts that last a second once in a while every few months which is bad for a PC with no battery. When I turned the UPS on, the thing was beeping continuously - I had 2 dead B.B. Battery HR1234W batteries.
Bought 2 of these, supposedly the Fire Retardant version and a 8-year service life instead of the normal 5..
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/143573420731
Watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_bkQ4EebI before I did anything.
Price has been jacked up to $129, but still has a fairly decent discount, meaning you'll pay $100.62 for a unit
Good find !
OP, since the price has been jacked to $129 on the original listing, you might want to update the link to this different listing that's still $118 (still Shopping Express):
Thanks. Will update post.
Wish I bought two now. Is the 1000 model overkill for a PS5 and Xbox Series X.
Cheers my current cyberpower one has completely dead batteries so this'll replace it to keep unraid server on during small outages :)