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KabelDirekt HDMI 2.1 Certified 1.5m Cable $20.69 + Delivery ($0 with Prime & $49 Spend) @ Amazon UK via AU

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KabelDirekt HDMI 2.1 Certified 1.5m Cable $20.69 + Delivery ($0 with Prime & $49 Spend) @ Amazon UK via AUAffiliate
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moo on 12/12/2021 - 02:07 amazon.com.au (193 clicks)
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‘All HDMI cables are the same’ blah blah blah. Going to put a stop to all these bullsh*t misinformation and comments plastered across some of the other posts.

Now, if you want some decent quality HDMI CERTIFIED 2.1 cables at a GREAT price, get yourself some of these KabelDirekt cables. These cables are up these with the likes of Zeskit and other well known brands. These cables are certified for 4K @ 120Hz. Or else, pick up one of those cheapie uncertified cables from one of the other posts and enjoy some HDMI roulette. Your money, your choice. Don’t take my word for it, check out some of the reviews yourself 😏.

There ya go, got it off my chest. Phew.

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  • Hybroid on 12/12/2021 - 02:14
    +2

    You are correct in that not all HDMI 2.1 cables are the same. Guessing you've been watching LTT's cable testing series.

    However, "KabelDirekt" isn't listed as a certified HDMI manufacturer at: https://www.hdmi.org/adopter/adoptersaffiliates?type=ccp

    So not sure what makes these "HDMI CERTIFIED"……

    • moo on 12/12/2021 - 02:37

      As I understand it, manufacturers can submit their cables for testing by one of the Authorised Testing Centres. Info: https://www.hdmi.org/adopter/atcs

      I’d imagine, the products which pass compliance testing will be able to utilise the HDMI 2.1 Certification hologram in their packaging and product branding. Consumers should also be able to verify the authenticity of it by using an app, e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.authenticv…

      • Hybroid on 12/12/2021 - 02:40

        The HDMI® Founders have established Authorized Testing Centers (ATC) where licensed manufacturers can submit their products for compliance testing.

        KabelDirekt isn't licensed as far as the HDMI.org website suggests. So no idea. Rather get something else that's actually listed as licensed.

        • moo on 12/12/2021 - 02:43
          +2

          Absolutely, go with what you’re comfortable with based on your research. Nothing is full proof!

          Interesting, some of the other certified cables which I’m aware of like Ruipro, Zeskit or CableMatters aren’t listed either. I can only assumed that they may not be the OEM manufacturer.

          • Hybroid on 12/12/2021 - 02:48
            +5

            @moo: UGREEN is certified on HDMI.org and they've been in the cable/accessory business longer and with wider product selection than most.

            https://www.amazon.com.au/UGREEN-Support-Dynamic-Compatible-…

            Certified (with labels), longer cable, braided and would seem more reliable option. Also available locally and delivers Tuesday with Prime.

    • mycosys on 12/12/2021 - 04:37
      +2

      you realize just about every brand uses an OEM and its the OEM that needs to be certified (not even the specific cable)?
      Theres a lot of problems with the HDMI spec and its compliance mechs

      • netsurfer on 12/12/2021 - 12:04
        +1

        There are currently two issues with HDMI 2.1 cables for most people:

        • Too many of us are buying them in advance (and actually not yet owning TVs, monitors to test them).
        • All certified cables are too expensive (and there is actually no guarantee they are fine).

        I bought cheap USB-IF certified USB-C cables before which actually have reliability issue. As you also pointed out, it depends on the OEM and we cannot be certain cable sellers won't switch OEM to save cost later on.

    • netsurfer on 12/12/2021 - 11:57

      Quite disappointed with the LTT cable testing videos so far. It's more a show off that they have that test machine. LTT only tested the cables they have / use. Commonly available cables on Amazon aren't tested.

      • Hybroid on 12/12/2021 - 13:20

        They did test commonly available cables in their market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbJD6RE4EY

        • netsurfer on 12/12/2021 - 13:48

          Those cable testing series videos so far are pure clickbaits. Only 3 different branded HDMI 2.1 6 feet (2m) cables were tested. If you were to go by Linus' conclusion, all those 6 feet HDMI 2.1 ones are okay.

          AmazonBasics has quality control issues, you could get really good ones or just down right rubbish ones. That's useful, but so what's the best way to approach AmazonBasics ones? Clearly the one which are HDMI 2.0 and actually managed HDMI 2.1 would have people tempted to get them (hence they are currently unavailable).

          Are certified cables actually better? The video doesn't address that at all.

          • Hybroid on 12/12/2021 - 14:10

            @netsurfer: Fair analysis. I suppose it’s early days and they’ll still working on the content.

            • netsurfer on 12/12/2021 - 14:13

              @Hybroid: They got that test machine from the maker a while back so they bought some cables. However, I am disappointed that we didn't see certified vs not certified. I get Linus spent thousands of dollars on those cables, but I cannot help noticing large quantities of cheap cables. The tech bits on HDMI are there to hide the fact that it is actually a poor selection of cables.

              Also, if we were to go by Linus' conclusion, there is no point spending more $$$ on expensive cables. Thing is, it is easy for him to say because he has that machine.

  • mycosys on 12/12/2021 - 02:18
    +3

    HDMI 2.1 cables are physically different from prior versions, so while the 'all cables are the same' had some little validity before, it doesnt with 2.1

    • moo on 12/12/2021 - 02:30
      +2

      The jump from HDMI 2.0b to 2.1 increases the bandwidth from 18Gbps to 48Gbps. Whilst non-certified cables may work, it is really a luck of the draw especially with the reliability of the connection. Higher probably of success with certified cables.

      • mycosys on 12/12/2021 - 03:26
        +6

        it also repurposes pins 10-12 from a slow clock signal to a high speed video signal, you would be quite lucky. Also requires the Ethernet shielded twisted pair (alternately used for audio) which means no clicks and pops from HDCP. Ive spent far longer in the last few weeks on HDMI/DP specs than i ever thought i would trying to find an mDP1.4-HDMI2.0b HDR etc converter for a Quadro T400, turns out its no longer as simple as just a darn cable XD.
        This isnt a bad summary of the changes in 2.1
        https://hdguru.com/hdmi-2-1-to-bring-robust-home-theater-exp…

        • netsurfer on 12/12/2021 - 12:23

          Any particular reason you opted for mDP 1.4 to HDMI 2.0b converter? That converter will need a LSPcon chip and you may need to tackle with firmware. Also, so far, quite a lot of those only offer at best 8-bit 4K HDR. If you want 10-bit 4K HDR, you are better off going with DisplayPort.

          I've given up on mDP 1.4 to HDMI 2.0b converters. Even the Intel NUC I used to own needed a couple of firmware upgrades on the inbuilt converter to sort out some issues. Also, getting GSync compatible / free sync to work on HDMI is harder.

          • mycosys on 12/12/2021 - 14:39

            @netsurfer: Mostly the GPU shortage? I bought a Hisense U8G which is HDMI 2.0b with some 2.1 features, figured i'd make a machine from some of the parts i had around but lacked a GPU that could drive it well. Ended up grabbbing a Quadro T400 (cut down GTX1650), not realizing just how complicated mDP-HDMI had got since i last used it tbh.
            Grabbed a cheap 'Cable Creations' DP-HDMI adapter and plan to use the nVidia mDP-DP adapters. Theres a couple of comments saying they managed 4k/60 HDR 10 bit 4:4:4, one from a T400 in Japanese (and one complaining they couldnt get 8k/60 4:4:4 which was a bit of a facepalm moment lol). If it doesnt work Amazon can have it back lol.

  • cloudie9 on 12/12/2021 - 02:23
    +3

    Comes with doldy vision ?

  • kawara888 on 12/12/2021 - 06:05
    +2

    Why not just buy Ugreen similar price and reliable

    • Spizz on 12/12/2021 - 09:09

      Is it certified with the hologram?

      • moo on 12/12/2021 - 09:59

        It seems to be. Ugreen is a reputable brand too.

        • mycosys on 12/12/2021 - 11:38

          KabelDirect are pretty well known and theres plenty of comments saying their QRs verify

  • nick nick on 12/12/2021 - 13:53
    -5

    all the same

    • Hybroid on 12/12/2021 - 14:10

      Don’t be a plonker. They’re really not all the same once you go beyond standard 4K60 i.e. HDMI 2.1 spec.

      • netsurfer on 12/12/2021 - 14:28

        It's basically still the same. You can get cheap and working HDMI 2.1 cables, you can get expensive HDMI 2.1 cables, but they are not guaranteed to pass the test. As usual, you have a small number of HDMI 2.0 cables which actually pass HDMI 2.1 testing. Just because one particular cable passes the test, it doesn't mean all cables from the same SKU will pass the test. Shorter cables tend to have less issue. It feels a bit of deja vu.

        I have HDMI 1.4 cables which work fine in HDMI 2.0. I have junk HDMI 2.0 cables which work without HDR, but once you use HDR, it starts to play up. Stick with the cables that come with your devices (XBox Series X, PS5) or monitors if you can. It's a pity graphics cards don't provide an HDMI cable as standard.

        With so many devices only support up to 40Gbps, we are not able to test 48Gbps claim of all of these HDMI 2.1 cables on real equipment.

  • LukeOz83 on 12/12/2021 - 22:26

    I needed a cheap cable to go between laptop and screen. Out of all, Bunnigs is the cheapest at $4.30 for 1.5m. Perhaps no certification but great bargain 😁
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/antsig-1-5m-high-speed-hdmi-cabl…

    • mycosys on 13/12/2021 - 07:44
      +2

      also just about guaranteed not to carry 4k120, you'd be lucky if you get 4k60

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