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[VIC] Unleaded U98 Fuel $1.534/L @ 7-Eleven, Dandenong 3175 » All Comments
@diazepam @cwongtech here we go…….
Can't wait for this to be expired by the time I finish work in 4 hours and can actually lock it in…
Why not lock in now?
I use an old iPhone and that tools program to lock these in as my main device is an android without root :(
Ah damn that sucks.
Is profiting off this sort of thing a good idea?
I'm aware that this site will lock in prices for free, but it also has paid options for autolocking and such as well.
Not sure what 7/11's stance is on chopper-related activities, but there was enough of a hurdle for getting this setup already (ie setting up an old phone) that probably restricted the amount of chopper pilots. But if anyone can just use a chopper service like this, with the service making money from it, it might draw some attention.
Just my opinion, I know it sounds a bit gatekeeper-ish.
+1 agree with this same thing as groovy bot on discord. Everything was fine and dandy until the conversion to a for profit model which led YouTube to crackdown
Who's proffiting wtf? Lol why so many downvoters lmao? I'm just help a fellow ozbargainer to lock 7/11? I don't own that website lol, I've got nothing to do with this website ahaha, y y'all so touchy about everything SMH…
Thanks man. Ur a legend, I didn't even know this existed. Got a free lock within 6 minutes. Will definitely sign up as a member as I don't want to root my android phone….
no Idea why u got so much neg? I see little difference between dishonesty appropriating it myself via chopper or someone charging a small for a service to do it for me at great convenience….this is absolutely gold.
Edit: no idea what link to use, so guidance on this would be appreciated.
You can find the store in the Store Locator page and that shows the available price
You can use this link, I uploaded a screenshot for youThanks for that. Someone also helped edit the OP so thanks!
But…that means they added the feature back to the API? I thought they removed it. (I acknowledge I have not been keeping up to date with this.)
Store Locator?
Yeah that was a stupid "feature" to leave out after they rebuilt the app from the ground up
It's been there for a while and you can use it to check:
- Current Prices in real-time
- Availability of fuel offerings at a specific store (not every store has E10 or U95 for example)Yeah, I checked after you posted…I'm just checking my memory isn't playing tricks on me since I'm sure that wasn't there in the new version in the initial time it was forced onto users.
Does that mean the master is going back to the old ways, or are we still using the newer methods? Or…is it all unknown?
Does that mean the master is going back to the old ways, or are we still using the newer methods? Or…is it all unknown?
You mean the modified APK method?
Impossible due to safetynet requirement and the app signature changes when a modification is done
Choppers armed and ready
Hey could you please help? Please DM me if you could. Thanks
If you don't know how to fly a chopper, read here first.
Don't ask for anyone to lock a price in for you, use the classifieds instead.
Chopper is grounded at home. Arrgghhh….
i saw petrol for $2.10 this morning .. puke
get to da choppa!
Where's the sub-130.0 sheesh
Does Fake GPS work for this? I tried but app says your location is not true.
Some jerk negged me for asking a simple question.
correction: a few negged you for asking a simple question
Yeah… It is like a dictatorship here.
Got it. Thanks op!
Thanks OP. Filled up today already but I'll keep it for later!
Thanks OP
Chopper loaded and fly over complete…
where is the resident dobber to let 7-11 know….:)
Left my rooted android phone at home and I do actually need to fill up probably today or tomorrow (50KM range left)… Is there any android emulator that works nowadays?
Left my rooted android phone at home
If you can PM me with what you did to set up your chopper (prove that you actually set it up), then I will assist as a once-off.
Is there any android emulator that works nowadays?
Not yet, but there's comments that the Windows 11 android sub-system looks promising
Why are people leaving their choppers at home? (esp android ones) Should be in your car..
I find for some reason my chopper only flys on home wifi. When I am using a wireless hotspot it doesn't work. I assumed that the hotspot device was passing along location info or something like that.
I find for some reason my chopper only flys on home wifi. When I am using a wireless hotspot it doesn't work. I assumed that the hotspot device was passing along location info or something like that.
Weird, all my choppers have VPNs on them, so I don't think the IP is the issue..
Update to my comment: thedirtywest definitely is a stranded chopper pilot (their setup sequence PM'd to me is correct)
Rendering assistance.@cwongtech: Hey mate could you please help? My computer has ran out of battery and it takes forever to charge and get it running, and it has been really unlucky for me. Please message me 0466289634. Cheers
Hey mate could you please help?
I can, but I won't
My computer has ran out of battery and it takes forever to charge and get it running, and it has been really unlucky for me. Please message me 0466289634. Cheers
You described the incorrect process (NOX method died over 12 months ago), which confirms you actually don't have a working chopper.
Cheers@cwongtech: Well my friend has one called AiSi and it still plugs to iphones alright. Doesn't work for my Android. It still mocks the location through Baidu and then I can do the lock through an old iphone. I can show you a picture of me locking the E10 at 99c last week if you want me to show.
@cwongtech: My old iphone and computer is at home, thats why I cant access. Please message me on my phone as I am approaching my limit.
I haven't looked at the method myself, as I've been busy. However, for those who that want to know I'm 70% this is it.
Yeah, I'm just quizzing people on the process before actually helping them
nice ~~~locked
Ka-Ching!
just reported this to 7/11 let's see how long this one takes to be changed.
Reported to Ozbargain for not being a bargain seeker :)
scammer*
the real scam is fuel prices (profanity)
@diazepam @cwongtech
hahahhahahahha
They're just so slow .. zero impact to professional pilots
Not going to lie, took longer than I expected. Been checking OzB at work waiting for this comment haha
just reported this to 7/11 let's see how long this one takes to be changed.
Mate why are you so slow?
Is it amateur hour?
This post has been up for 75 minutesAlready carried out heaps of locks because I'm around the area..
Hey (profanity).
Been a while.
You do come across as a whiner. Take a look at your previous posts, you have either been scammed or are a pain. Don't take it out on the OzBargain community.
Price will change not because of you rather, when they get a delivery on ULP. I do however expect you to take credit for it.
Till the next fuel post!
yea they bit slow via email I'm on hold with their support line atm will keep posted x
yea they bit slow via email I'm on hold with their support line atm will keep posted x
They're still faster than you mate, 75 minutes to respond to this post
Amateur
@newbiesh: 7/11 overcharged me (scanned twice instead of once) for a can of v and I noticed it on the receipt when I got home. A sad person like you would drive 10 kms back to store and get a refund and on top of that report it as a potential scam. And then go home in a rage driving like a grub and hardly get any sleep and whatever sleep you did get, was full of nightmares (ozbargainers locking in at 0.90c per litre) 😂
Dude, you appear to have a lot invested in this process to (I assume) try and make it fairer for other users!
I would suggest that your time is better spent volunteering for example at the pound, homeless/food kitchen, DV shelters..
there they are…only took about an hour…well done
Karen has just entered the building
Yes I see the resident dobber has commented.
for all of the people who think 7-11 hates Ozbargain and our helicopters.
I got insider info that they actually don't care about that much, and the locking system has actually benefitted 7-11 in the long term at working out demand.If they want to use our data for their data analytics and customer profiling, then i think they should pay for it, which is why our helicopters are required. :)
I got insider info that they actually don't care about that much, and the locking system has actually benefitted 7-11 in the long term at working out demand.
I for one would have never touched 7/11 stations if it weren't for the fuel lock app
Exactly. Same here actually.
How many of us Ozbargainers would not have fueled at 7/11 if it wasn't for the fuel lock app?Famous Quote: There is only one boss. The customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else.
If they REALLY wanted to catch out helicopter users, it actually isn't that hard with all the data they have, their team just implemented the easiest option of using native code calls from the OS which handles GPS Spoofers.
7-11 just did the maths, catch them all = lose $x vs, lets lose a little but still get them to shop with us so we still make some money off them! Even at $1.534 7-11 still makes a profit…..
TBH I believe only less than 10% of those fuel locks would have been using a chopper
but many more are using the standard fuel lock app which is what it designed for
it is just like shell / ampol to provide some sort of discounts or incentives for people to purchase fuels from their stationsIf they remove the entire fuel lock offer
they are just losing the major incentive to fuel in their station
(not much people really cares about Velocity points if thats the only benefit)
I got insider info about court case
wanna post the court case then? :) as all court cases are public knowledge, very interested to see.
bahahaha. Yeah, sure you did. What are they going to do?
:)
@newbiesh: Maybe they should pay us for the publicity they got when winning this award because of us:
https://www.7eleven.com.au/get-to-know-us/stories/news/7-ele…
Yeah. They’ll sue you for being a paltry salty pathetic excuse of a person. Just because you think you’ve been dealt a shit hand in life doesn’t mean you should externally project your extreme bitterness onto everyone else. I’ve refrained from saying everything else I wanted to.
After I saw one of your comments in a previous 7-Eleven deal (from which I can see the OzBargain community overwhelmingly loves your contributions), I had a look at the 7-Eleven Fuel Price Lock terms and conditions, and it does not specifically require you and your device to be in the physical location your device is reporting, so helicopter pilots should be okay from that perspective.
Whether helicopter pilots are “obtaining a financial advantage by deception” would have to be something tested by a court (and unfortunately the court of OzBargain does not count), but I doubt 7-Eleven would go to the extent of taking helicopter pilots to court, because 7-Eleven will likely only be losing ~$15-$25 per customer per fuel lock, so costly, lengthy legal action may not be worth it. It would also likely destroy a lot of goodwill towards 7-Eleven (both on and off OzBargain).
Think about this as well:
It would cost development time and money to patch out the current workarounds.
People will likely find another workaround (given enough time and dedication), so 7-Eleven would really be playing an endless game of whack-a-mole.
The only way to ultimately shut down helicopter pilots is to shut down the 7-Eleven Fuel Lock system, which would hurt people who genuinely use the Fuel Lock system and would take away what I think is the only unique selling proposition 7-Eleven offers in Australia in terms of fuel.
7-Eleven is getting free advertising on OzBargain, which is handy, since OzBargain is generally restrictive on the fuel deals you can post on this website.
You have a bunch of helicopter pilots who may otherwise purchase fuel (or other products) elsewhere.
You have a bunch of helicopter pilots who would get involved in other 7-Eleven offers.
7-Eleven can shift premium grades of fuel (particularly 98 octane petrol) across Australia faster than they may otherwise shift.
Before you ask, I am not a helicopter pilot, as I infrequently drive these days, plus I also spend a fair bit of time each year in parts of Australia where there isn’t a 7-Eleven fuel station for many kilometres, so it is not worth the hassle for me… I’m just an interested bystander!
I think he is just salty because he cant seem to work out how to get an helicopter for himself and ends up hating all the people who have one!
Yes, a few years ago a Hollywood studio tried to get money from Australian who downloaded the movie Dallas Buyers Club but the court considered that speculative invoicing was not appropriate and the most the studio could get was the price similar to a DVD of the movie. 7 eleven should know about it and the most it can get is the difference between what you should have paid at your local station and the locked-in price. But, the onus on 7 eleven is huge as they need to provide a lot of evidences (your actual location or whether you committed fraud and so on) and the cost is much much higher than what they can potential get.
@vchung916: Good point! I forgot that if 7-Eleven took Fuel Lock users to court, there’s a good chance some of them were never helicopter pilots, plus it would be a nightmare proving actual location vs reported location.
I agree that the juice would not be worth the squeeze.
true - I really want to see the data of fuel revenue between major stores pre 7/11 fuel lock app and now…for me (and extended family,) anyway, 99% of all fuel purchases has been via 7/11, only case in the last 5 years when I didn't is when we traveled from Melb-Sydney, and needed to refuel midway.
But I can get u91 5c cheaper ATM, is it worth it for. My 2010 civic, wouldn't really make much difference
For 5c get u98, it will give you more mileage
Hmmmm, I also don't own a helicopter, so would have to drive 18 km out of my way to get it
Well in that case, you need to invest in an old Android phone if you want to do it portably or old iPhone if you want to do it from home only
@Toffcuz: If an iPhone can be jaibroken then it is also a portable option. That relies on having the appropriate version of iOS though.
Just found out my account got blocked doing this! Would not recommend…
Make a new one
hope you used VPN….
Why would we need VPN?
Why would we need VPN?
Because they don't know how people are tracked (IPs switch every time you turn off and on airplane mode for a mobile)
Amateur, obviously
@newbiesh: Yeah that's in China
hahahaha dear! am sys admin dude.
Cool story bro, you must be pretty bad at your job to think fingerprinting a device using IP address alone is effective.
Your previous posts on OzBargain indicate you generally lack positivity in your life
Perhaps looking at some cute pictures on reddit will help introduce some happiness in your life, though long term I do encourage you to find more stable sources of dopamine@cwongtech: He is admin of his own computer system. Gosh darn what a difficult qualification. If only I can become a sys admin so easily…
Are they cracking down, or did you do something different?
Are they cracking down, or did you do something different?
G09 error = Account deleted due to suspicious activity as per this comment
Screws up Velocity Account linkage permanently
aaannnd it's gone
@newbiesh: Because they got a delivery of ULP, not because of you.
The price can last an hour or a day. It all depends.
@newbiesh: Yeah, no impact to me, I knew of the price and locked before this post came up
Amateur hour…
Did they kick you out immediately? Or did you use manage to fuel up. Keen to understand what data point 7-11 use to work this out
I have locked price expiring in a few days, how do I relock the cheaper price? :(
Have to use the current lock first
Get 2 litres filled or create a new account
get a new account
Maidstone 7-11 is 1.505. Western suburbs are consistently the cheapest in Melbourne.
woops… I can't remember my spare account psw
You got my hopes up…that is not U98, but U91.
98 is $170.5 there mate
Wrong fuel mate.
Expired? Getting 173.4 for U98
Yep expired
Sorry lads, please divert to the Shellharbour airport
Do you have an idiots guide for Ios
It seems to run OK allows me to click on a location
But when i click set fake location, it doesn't play ball.
Any ideas
I dont see the developer settings it says
ahhh, just missed this one!
Thankfully I locked twice last week, although I've been having issues with making new accounts or resetting passwords on current ones. Anyone else have issues there?oh yessss "expired" haha
they got a delivery of ULP. It wasn't because of you.
CRINGE MATE
why on earth do you care so much about the profitability of a company worth USD$37bn?
probably has a franchise. Hates it every time someone walks into his/her store and uses a fuel lock
Probably works at 7/11, the one down the road from mine always dirty when I go in to claim freebies that 7/11 app offers let alone the cheap lock in fuel.
awww I donate some btc so you can afford to buy things
it's not just fair.
just because someone is rich you should not rob them.I would hate to imagine what you’d think of people who use VPNs into Turkey to try and get three years of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate for ~AU$125. I mean, anyone who did that would be robbing Microsoft of around AU$450 in the process.
@newbiesh: Not sure what your point is.
Deals always expire. Its got nothing to do with you.
You are not the center of the universe. You need some help.
Saved $10 on half a tank yesterday. Looking forward to the next 7/11 post!
Awesome. Needs a few more upvotes to 200. Just coz it brings out a smile from all but one user on the ozb community
He's just here to get some attention. It's cute.
+1 for the entertainment
Talk about the pot calling the kettle out.
Hey brother……
How you doin bruh..
Have you seen Omicron?
( ͡ ͡° ͜ ʖ ͡ ͡°)
@NoHorny: What have you guys done to Xi - poor guy was waiting for his turn then BAM you went straight to Omicron! How can you call yourself a parent @COVID-19
Always get the receipt, my old girl just filled up 2 weeks ago 98. Car is f'd contaminated with water. The repairs are now 10k lucky she got receipt now waiting to see what insurance do 🤔
Always get the receipt, my old girl just filled up 2 weeks ago 98. Car is f'd contaminated with water. The repairs are now 10k lucky she got receipt now waiting to see what insurance do 🤔
Sorry to hear that, good advice and tip!
That's really unfortunate, happened to my friend too, luckily 7/11's facebook team helped follow up and ensured the servicing cost was coveredUnfortunately it's not a brand-specific issue
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/8147588/redirHope you asked the mechanic to keep a sample of the fuel for you!
We still go to 7/11 for fuel and have done so for 4-5 years
Hope 7/11 make it right for you!
Yeah he got sample, they asked for photos too. Sent it to them.
They'll probably still play dumb, they trying everything already not to pay. They asking for all invoices of services and photos of service history along with other evidence. Gonna also send them footage of the dash cam, when the car got home tried to start after couple minutes, didn't start.
She filled up at United fyi
She filled up at United fyi
Ah, not 7/11, but still relevant advice!
From the above referenced post in my comment (which was apparently united as well!)Edit: Submitted mechanic report and receipt to head office in Victoria and got a call from station owner advising that he will cover all the costs involved as water was in the fuel from my tank. Close to 50% of water was found in my tank after filling up from there!!
Not sure, maybe you can try to contact the "head office in Victoria" as well!
@cwongtech: I think I remember a comment on ozbargain stating that quality control at 7/11 was very stringent hence safer, while United were the worst. That would confirm the observation.
Edit: that's actually the link from above comment :-)@cwongtech: She did, they sent a claim form and told her to fill it out.
Bro had an issue only 4 months ago from 7-11, poured 98 and found diesel in the car. Had to fix from he's own pocket as he didn't get the receipt.
Thats why my old girl started asking for receipts, lucky she did otherwise 😡
@Bretttick: curious (and i may have missed it from one of your earlier posts) - did your brother pay via credit card and was the cc provider unable to obtain the receipt?
Bro had an issue only 4 months ago from 7-11, poured 98 and found diesel in the car.
Diesel is better than water I suppose (still need to clean engine but at least no water damage)
That's really disappointing, I'm sure there would have been other cars affected..Which 7/11 was this?
Must be the tanker guy pouring the fuel in the wrong hole D:
any discount sushi?