New Swap n Go LPG bottles

DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 17:57
Last edited 25/11/2021 - 22:13

Has anyone had issues with the new style Swap and Go bottles with the black tap? I got my Weber Q in June and I can’t screw one in all the way easily and without force, went back to Bunnings and they are all the same. Saw a little
Bit of info here:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t67832734/strange-swap…

And here:

https://hotgas.com.au/bbq-gas-cylinder-changes/

Has anyone been able to get a new connector off Weber or a solution from Elgas? Just seems crap that this change has been rolled in by what appears to be the regulators without much warning and people are going to be caught out over summer

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  • jv on 24/11/2021 - 18:04
    +1

    Are you sure Elgas haven't been bought out by Apple ?

    • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 18:08
      +1

      Lol I wouldn’t be surprised if the bbq consortium was doing a swifty as well

      • jv on 24/11/2021 - 18:09
        +1

        Wait until you see the price of the new patented MFg connectors (that require a chip).

        That will confirm my suspicion…

        • Guybrush57 on 24/11/2021 - 18:23

          An electrical chip on a gas bottle? What a combo!

          • jv on 24/11/2021 - 18:26
            -2

            @Guybrush57: Where did I say 'electrical'???

          • dizzle on 24/11/2021 - 18:36
            +5

            @Guybrush57: No, it's a 5G chip that links to your booster shot.

            • freefall101 on 24/11/2021 - 21:13

              @dizzle: Damn, here I was hoping I'd get 6G with my booster, or at least a faster GPU or something, 5G coverage is already amazing after the first two.

        • Oz-Bogan on 24/11/2021 - 23:30
          +1

          What? Like a potato chip?

  • brendanm on 24/11/2021 - 18:06

    Both those links say that it's just the same internal thread with different external, may require a bit more force due to additional sealing on internal thread.

    • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 18:08

      I tried enough force and WD40 to be concerned, I was unsuccessful

      • brendanm on 24/11/2021 - 18:08

        Damaged threads on either the regulator or the bottle? It's a backwards compatible new valve, so should be no issue.

        • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 18:10

          Shouldn’t be…have you had this experience yet though?

          • brendanm on 24/11/2021 - 18:12
            +1

            @DemocracyManifest: Nope not as yet. I would check the threads on both visually just to be sure. Seems pretty dumb to change something that's worked just fine for ages.

            • brad1-8tsi on 24/11/2021 - 19:40

              @brendanm: There are some additional safety features

              https://esv.vic.gov.au/safety-education/gas-safety-at-home/b…

              • brendanm on 24/11/2021 - 19:44

                @brad1-8tsi: Yeah I know, but how often was it an issue? Operating the old style ones wasn't exactly rocket surgery.

                • brad1-8tsi on 24/11/2021 - 19:58
                  +1

                  @brendanm: You and I are both practical folk. Remember all those hopeless folk that we make money from?

                  Many years ago I had a friend spend 30 minutes trying to do righty-tighty on his gas bottle even though he undid it that way.

                  They walk among us.

                  • brendanm on 24/11/2021 - 20:05

                    @brad1-8tsi:

                    I had a friend spend 30 minutes trying to do righty-tighty on his gas bottle

                    😂

                    They walk among us.

                    I suppose I would just rather people learnt how to do things, rather than attempt to make things idiot proof. All that happens from that, is that someone invents a better idiot.

                    • Forkinhell on 25/11/2021 - 08:52

                      @brendanm: It's impossible to make something fool(idiot)proof, because fools(idiots) are so ingenious.

  • Digitalco on 24/11/2021 - 18:19
    +1

    I had the same problem, i think i screwed it in properly and no gas came out, so I gave up and went back to Bunnings to have it changed. I still don't know how to get it to work if this is going to replace the old one.

    • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 18:22

      Yeah I went back today and every single on in the cage was this new style, argh

  • geek001 on 24/11/2021 - 18:22
    +2

    Hmmm.. interesting. I don't usually do a swap n go unless my gas bottle has expired. I usually get them refilled for $19.95 at Barbeques Galore. I couldn't find any cheaper option to get gas.

    • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 18:23

      Yeah I got a gas bottle given to me, I wasn’t sure of it’s full history so swapped it and now I’m stuck with it 😂

      • geek001 on 24/11/2021 - 18:29
        +1

        Oh.. bugger. I find that the swap n go ones are pretty new-ish. I have tried other gas swap places like my local mower place, which was cheaper but the bottles looked a bit dodgy and rusted. There should be dates are stamped on the bottle, I think the expiry is 10 years from the latest date on the bottle, so you can kinda tell when it was last tested or even how old it is based on how many dates there are on the bottle.

        • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 18:48

          Yeah the Bunnings ones all have new slaps of paint and connectors, it’s just very weird when you cannot be certain if you get a new hose etc, it’ll work

          • geek001 on 24/11/2021 - 19:04
            +1

            @DemocracyManifest: Thanks for the heads up. I had a look online, everyone is claiming the new valve is backwards compatible, seems like that is not the case. Was it that you were unable to screw it in or was it no gas came out? Apparently there is a new check valve to stop accidentally gas leakage.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG1HxrqeNI8

            • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 19:08
              +1

              @geek001: Hmm it suggests doing it anti clockwise, but I actually tried both ways haha. I think I’ll be contacting Weber about a new fitting…

              • DemocracyManifest on 24/11/2021 - 19:10

                @DemocracyManifest: I couldn’t get mine in the whole way and I turned it on and gas just leaked out of course…

              • brendanm on 24/11/2021 - 19:45

                @DemocracyManifest: It is a left hand thread, you have to screw it in anticlockwise.

              • lunchbox99 on 24/11/2021 - 19:47
                -1

                @DemocracyManifest: You don't need a new fitting. You need to screw it counterclockwise and screw it in properly. It 100% works with weber. I'm using one right now.

            • lunchbox99 on 24/11/2021 - 19:46
              +1

              @geek001: It is the case. I have one on my weber right now. It works just fine.

    • 87percent on 24/11/2021 - 19:24
      +1

      Yeah that’s what I did the other day. Gotta say, when I was driving home with a big gas bottle in my boot, I was praying not to get rear ended!

      And yes, you turn it anti clockwise

    • FimpBARGAIN on 25/11/2021 - 07:46
      +1

      Anaconda do the same price, we run our house off two swap and goes heaps cheaper than renting big bottles and no waiting a week for replacements.
      We save hundreds a year for minimal effort

      • leroyxx on 25/11/2021 - 10:22

        Dunno what you pay for swap an goes and if you were waiting a week for deliveries you would have been better to go to a different supplier. Usually 45kg bottles work out cheaper than these.

        • FimpBARGAIN on 27/11/2021 - 08:38

          Few things to consider here, we only use about 4 swap n go bottles of gas a year (family of 4, instant had hot water and cooktop)
          When we used to have a single big bottle they up'd the yearly rent to a point where they cost almost as much as the gas we used. We didn't use enough to justify having 2 big ones so used to have a big and a little. That worked for a while.
          Then the local depot changed the rules where I couldn't just drop the big bottles in for a swap, and cos we are a bit rural the wait was 3-7days.
          Not good enough so figured out just filling up 2 small bottles a few times a year saved a bunch of rental and cancelled the big bottle.
          The rent is the killer on the big ones if you don't use much.

    • brett-au on 25/11/2021 - 21:18

      Seems to be $23.85 now

  • brad1-8tsi on 24/11/2021 - 19:41
    +1

    There's an instruction link in here.

    https://esv.vic.gov.au/safety-education/gas-safety-at-home/b…

    • LFO on 25/11/2021 - 12:08
      +1

      There's an instruction link in here.

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      You don't have permission to access this resource.

  • lunchbox99 on 24/11/2021 - 19:44
    +1

    I have one on my weber q right now - no problem at all. Got it from Bunnings last weekend.

    • DemocracyManifest on 25/11/2021 - 15:42

      I can’t screw mine all the way on: maybe I need to by multigrips - or do they not go all the way in now

      • lunchbox99 on 25/11/2021 - 17:02
        -1

        I just used my fingers, but I am totally ripped so there's that

  • meowsers on 24/11/2021 - 23:49

    It's just the american style external thread. that's coming here soon for the appliances themselves. much easier than the internal style threads.

  • leroyxx on 25/11/2021 - 10:26
    +1

    All of the new style connectors should have a black handle. They may have a green label as well.
    There are plenty of suppliers out there that have a good mix in their cages, at the moment I'd be surprised if there was more than one or two new style connectors.
    New appliances will have the new style connectors soon.
    I work for a gas company.

    • DemocracyManifest on 25/11/2021 - 10:59

      Well that’s the odd thing this particular cage just happens to have all be changed over, and I assume the reason is because it’s the biggest Bunnings in the area and it’s on a highway/next to a motorway and they go through a lot of the stock quickly

      • leroyxx on 26/11/2021 - 07:55
        +1

        Maybe they got a new shipment in and just got lazy, haha. A quick shop around and you should find plenty of old style ones, but you shouldn't have a issue with the new styles anyway

  • WT on 25/11/2021 - 11:46

    swapped one a couple of months ago np

  • Digitalco on 14/12/2021 - 13:40

    Did you get it to work?

    • DemocracyManifest on 15/12/2021 - 22:13

      Yeah, reverse screw in and I tightened it with multi grips, it works, but it doesn’t go all the way in. There’s no apparent leakage, it just seems really dodgy :/ and there’s not much documentation around to say whether you’ve done it right or not

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