Magic Spoon Cereal Alternatives

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  Megametro on 16/11/2021 - 21:12

  +1

  From a macro nutrient perspective, is there any reason why you’d wouldn’t opt for just regular cereal and have a scoop of whey or casein on the side?

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    maxyzee on 16/11/2021 - 21:19

    Regular cereal just adds unnecessary carbs to the mix. Yeah adding a scoop of protein will up the protein for that meal but the total amount of calories for that meal is much higher now.

    From the nutritional label for magic spoon the vast majority of its calories comes from protein so there’s no need to add that scoop of whey or casein.

    I guess what I’m trying to do here is get the most bang for buck in terms of satisfying that sweet tooth without blowing out my calorie intake.

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  Megametro on 16/11/2021 - 21:39

  So I just looked at the magic spoon nutritional panel. Notice they’re really shy about noting the fat content.
  Per 36g it’s 170 calories
  So:
  9g fat
  10g carbs
  14g protein

  If you had 40g of nutrigrain (155 calories) and half a scoop of pure-product isolate on the side you’d be looking at:

  Nutrigrain:
  1.2g fat
  26g carb
  8.7g protein

  Isolate (57cal):
  0.2g fat
  0.3g carbs
  15g protein

  So all up:
  213 cal
  2g fat
  26g carbs
  24g protein

  I’d seriously consider option B…

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    Megametro on 16/11/2021 - 21:42

    I’m not trying to be a smart arse either but as Layne Norton would say, show me a study where total calories and protein are equated that shows any difference to fat loss results based on modifications to a carbs to fat ratio

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      maxyzee on 16/11/2021 - 22:24

      Agree with you totally. The key thing being though is adherence.

      That’s why keto works for a lot of people. They’re more able to adhere to the diet and maintain a caloric deficit.

      That’s my goal here, having foods in my diet that make it more likely for me to stay within my caloric target.

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    maxyzee on 16/11/2021 - 22:02

    That 170cal one is there highest flavour. They’re more typically 140cal.

    So without adding whatever milk into the mix the cereals compared to nutri grain is slightly lower or higher. Adding a scoop of WPI adds 60 calories so overall the total calories is approximately 25% to 52% higher for one meal.

    Remember I wouldn’t add a scoop of WPI to the magic spoon cereal.

    Also the high simple carb content of the nutrigrain wouldn’t have the same satiating factor and I’d want more an hour later.

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      Megametro on 17/11/2021 - 08:12

      …WPI adds 60 calories so overall the total calories is approximately 25% to 52% higher for one meal.
      This is true but protein is also satiating. And “typically” to maintain lean body mass while in a deficit, you’ll want more protein ~2.2-2.8g/kg.
      And given that this is just one meal - breakfast, to get to a decent protein target for the day, you’ll be making it up in the other meals…

      With regards to adherence and keto - to avoid a macronutrient component for the rest of your life to prevent breaking ketosis, I’m not sure that’s attainable (in the long run) for most people today, or at least in western society.
      Plus that magic spoon formulation had 10g carbs so this would “typically” be regarded as ~40-50% of a strict keto’s entire daily carb content.

      What does your macro breakdown look like for the day and how much of a deficit are you working with?

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        Megametro on 17/11/2021 - 08:28

        I realise you came here to talk cereal deals. There is a good, sweet and nice tasting “keto friendly” blend that Aldi do. It’s called ‘Paleo Granola’ and it’s $6.99 a bag (300g)

        Per 50g (not sure if you’d have a half serving??)
        Fat: 22.9
        Carbs: 7.6
        Protein: 8.7

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        maxyzee on 17/11/2021 - 09:38

        Understand that what works for some people might not work for others. The best diet is the one you can stick to.

        I’ve tried them all over the years. IF, Keto, carb cycling, IIFYM etc. and each have their pros and cons. I used to do a bit of bodybuilding back in the day and got myself down to 6% BF and maintained it for a good 9 months.

        I’m not intending myself to go on a keto diet now, the cereal is just a tool to help with keeping within my caloric target for the day.

        I’m looking at maintaining around 2400-2500 calories per day with a rough 40-40-20 split. With cardio that’s about a 4-500 calorie deficit. By the end in about 3-4 months I’d have probably cut it down to 2000 calories or under per day.

        I’m 80 kg now and want to get myself back down to the high 60s. Not a big dude 168cm. Thankfully the weight that I gained over Covid wasn’t wall fat, I did end up bulking a bit my lifts are about 5-10kg more than before Covid.

        At my peak I was benching 130kg DLing 195kg SQing160kg.