Is It Possible for Someone to Play This Piano Piece Simply by Following This Video for Someone Has No Previous Experiences?

Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 18:51
Last edited 15/10/2021 - 21:39

I have no piano experiences, nothing at all, never played. However my kid is now 2 years into piano but she wants to give up, I want to inspire her by playing this piece I found on Youtube on the Christmas Day.

My plan is:

Follow this video to a T everyday for 1 - 2 hours, for those with piano playing experiences, do you think I would have enough time to learn this by Christmas this year? So I have basically 70 days to do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p--x43-VbPY

Poll has been set up. Only vote if you had piano experiences please

Update:

Thanks to @yellowfever who suggested doing a YouTube progress video with the timeline, I thought its a wonderful idea.
So here is my day 1, yesterday spending of 70mins to come up with this tiny little piece without looking at the drop down tiles.

https://youtu.be/aWU2sxwijJ0 (Day 1)
https://youtu.be/M4ApCsg3hPU (Day 2) My fingers are really hurting……….this is only after 2 days………my god how do you guys do it???

I will update as I go along…..by the way sorry about my hands, this is the result of doing 10+ years of glass painting, at the time I didnt know the glass painting was quiet toxic therefore I developed Vitiligo in the 10 years while doing the glass painting, now I have completely stopped glass painting but the Vitiligo stayed. Glad I stopped otherwise it could get a lot worse……….

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    1: No
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    2: Yes
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  • [Deactivated] on 14/10/2021 - 18:55
    +1

    No

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:02

      Can you elaborate please?

      • [Deactivated] on 14/10/2021 - 19:07

        You need more time to practice each day or get stuck in a time loop

        Try synthesia or some other piano app

  • loulou1 on 14/10/2021 - 18:57
    +5

    Why make your child continue if they don’t like it?

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:01
      -2

      Asian Parents!

      • deme on 14/10/2021 - 19:07
        +2

        However my kid is now 2 years into piano but she wants to give up
        Username: Aerith-Waifu

        hmmm

        • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:23
          -2

          Yes too bad not Tifa………….

      • Zachary on 16/10/2021 - 15:06
        -2

        Wait….you're asian? I thought you were just some white guy who is into asian girls….

    • Tech5 on 15/10/2021 - 00:59
      +4

      Nah man, force/bribe/motivate your kid to play an instrument, but don't over do it. Kids need discipline, and not everything they do has to be something they love. Otherwise, they wouldn't need parents.

      They will thank you when older.

      I had to play 30-60 min sax a day before I was allowed out to see my friends. Still got to see my friends in the end but also learnt how to play sax.

      • timthetoolman on 15/10/2021 - 07:37
        +3

        Now you're just waiting for the right moment to belt out some baker street?

      • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:05
        -2

        I only asking her to do 30-40 mins a day. So not extreme for sure.

    • SlickMick on 15/10/2021 - 09:04
      +1

      I read "inspire" not "make".

      Kids don't have the maturity to make good decisions, e.g. they might choose tv or video games over reading or learning to play an instrument.

      "Inspiring" seems like a really good really good parenting technique. But even force is better than apathy.
      The kid will be grateful when they're mature enough to appreciate it.

      • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:05

        This I agrees. Well said

  • Crow K on 14/10/2021 - 19:12

    Don't try the whole thing, just focus on the red notes. Learn a piece at a time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DQ9VOTeIHo

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:23

      This looks more manageable! Thanks

  • MagicMushroom on 14/10/2021 - 19:25

    So she will not quit piano if you play that on the Christmas day?

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:35
      +1

      At the moment she just doesn't want to spending time practice, when she practice she can get A- at the exams. When she is not she gets a C. So she hasn't hit a point when she struggles yet.

      Its the issues with the other kids who are always playing iPad every time they visit (bring their iPad) and when she is at their house they playing a lot of video games.

      So its rather the distraction than anything else at the moment. I would totally understand if she really is hitting a periods where she cant do it. She is not.

      • SF3 on 14/10/2021 - 20:18

        You maybe being able to play may only address the symptoms.

        There has to be something within her (mindset) that needs to change… something or someone she can role model perhaps - you may not be the one?

        • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 20:30
          -2

          I am trying to be the role model, however its hard in this age when kids are glued to the screen. However she does like Tifa……..ALOT, and Tifa plays PIANO!

          • SF3 on 14/10/2021 - 20:33
            +1

            @Aerith-Waifu: Does she get to play pieces she likes? or just AMEB (could be a bit boring)… could just mix it up a bit.

            • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:43

              @SF3: Yes, she can chose whatever the pieces she likes not just ameb

  • Drakesy on 14/10/2021 - 19:28
    +1

    Anything is possible if you put your mind to it.
    Just somethings are harder to complete than others.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:36

      True but would I have enough time for this Christmas? I can only squeeze out 2 hours max per day.

      • poboy on 14/10/2021 - 19:44
        +4

        We do not know your general aptitude with new tasks. You may be someone who is unable to right click a mouse, despite a rigorous 12 week course.

        Or you could be someone who can Suzuki better than Mick Dohan.

        • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 19:54

          Very determined, I used to do glass painting which takes maybe days to complete 1 painting. I am also very patient. Which should sums me up pretty well.

  • slow on 14/10/2021 - 20:33
    +1

    Yes, but much easier if you use something like this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiOg4Gkznio

    Start slow and work on accuracy before speed (slow the video)

    Do each hand separately

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:50

      I just watched the video and feel this one is harder than this one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DQ9VOTeIHo

      Is it me or is this one you posted jumped all-over the place with both left hand and right hand? Or the rearranged is bit eazier like you said? I cant really tell………….

      • slow on 15/10/2021 - 10:04

        I just gave that as example of the type of format that I find easy to learn from - you will need to look at a few to find one that suits

        In an ideal world you should learn some basics before tackling something like that, but anything is possible

        The first piano piece I learned was Mozart's ronda alla turca, which some might say is foolhardy

        • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:06

          Thanks, I will try both tonight and see which one can I follow a bit more. Trouble is I can only do it when she is in bed and I work early in the mornings.

  • SF3 on 14/10/2021 - 20:54
    +3

    Solution: Ling Ling 40 hours

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:50

      I have 2 hours max each day, Ling Ling is out! lol (Most a link please?)

  • bcarp on 14/10/2021 - 21:17
    +6

    Quit AMEB. Find a good Suzuki teacher. Forget the exams & grades, and just play for enjoyment & the desire to excel will follow. As an Asian parent, you should know the research. Ability to play music correlates with good maths mark, and higher income as an adult. However, I don’t believe that there’s a correlation between grade of music and maths mark or income. Pushing good grades now while making the kid hate it and give up later isn’t a good thing, but not worrying about grades and having the kid enjoy it and keep playing in 50 years is definite worth it.

    PS. What sort of Asian are you if you don’t play the piano or violin? :)

    • raptormesh on 14/10/2021 - 22:44

      Was never coerced to play any music when young but consistently scored highest in maths and calculus :P.

      Did get into playing cello as a hobby though as an adult.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:53

      Well the thing is I am not a math guy and I honestly dont think unless you want to be an engineer whats the maths gonna do in the everyday life apart from knowing the right change is given? My self has a back ground in Art and I find that far more interesting compared to Maths. But each to their own. So I rather enforce my kid to do a bit more about music rather than maths. Also by going with AMEB she can get extra points going to high school also.

      • macca9123 on 15/10/2021 - 09:21
        +1

        I suggest you look into the philosophy of the Suzuki method and how it differentiates from the more traditional AMEB. Then consider which method may be more appropriate for your child's nature and aptitude. The right approach and teacher means that your child is more likely to stick with it long term.

        Suzuki certainly worked for me as a child.

        • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:07

          Thanks for that, never even heard of Suzuki before so its another side I will investigate. Do they have any exams like AMEB?

          • macca9123 on 15/10/2021 - 18:18

            @Aerith-Waifu: No. It's more about listening and doing rather than being heavy on theory and exams. Don't get me wrong, theory is helpful, but it can also seriously detract from a child enjoying learning an instrument. Typically with Suzuki you will record a graduation piece from each book on your own time and send it in to be critiqued. So there is no pressure like an exam. You can take as long as you need to master and record a graduation piece.

            http://suzukimusic.org.au/suzuki.htm

            • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 19:22

              @macca9123: Thank you for the info. This is really helpful. I will surely look into it.

    • MagicMushroom on 15/10/2021 - 19:27

      As an Asian parent, you should know the research. Ability to play music correlates with good maths mark, and higher income as an adult.

      That doesn't mean you can improve maths mark and get higher income in the future by playing music. Big F- as a Asian for not understanding correlation and causation

      • bcarp on 15/10/2021 - 21:39

        Big F- as a Asian for not understanding correlation and causation

        I never said causation. :) Very intentionally.

  • morse on 14/10/2021 - 21:30

    Yes if you’re dedicated to practice. I have a limited piano background but have been surprised at what I can learn when I dedicate the time to it. Just don’t worry about it being perfect.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:53

      Thanks! I have done my first hour tonight and its really interesting, keen to do more tomorrow!

  • yellowfever on 14/10/2021 - 22:18

    As suggested above, learn right hand notes first. Master that, and then add in the left hand notes.
    If you try learn both hand notes at the same time, you too will give up.

    Also the video you posted is crap and you won't learn from that. Use the other videos other replies have suggested.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:54

      Yes I shall do that. I tried my first hour tonight with both hands and I almost tried, than I tried the red bar and its much better. How to put them together is for another matter though……….

  • toliman on 14/10/2021 - 23:15

    Strange request. That song isn't going to be simple unless you have a good sequential memory AND lots of existing piano practical experience. You can probably start with learning to play chords just to get your hand-brain coordination, similar to touch-typing and holding your hands in the proper position to avoid travel and wrist strain early on. Piano generally is not something you will naturally pick up by watching someone else, or learning off a piano-roll type video.

    You can learn the chords, and sequential songs that are based off chordic progression, i.e. Pop Music, sic, as Modern Music tends to be easier. Especially Theme Music and Pop Songs. Game Music, is especially designed to loop, so it's often easy to learn with too.

    I'd probably start with Tifa, or Aerith's Theme, as it's very chord-based, https://youtu.be/p6SqkAxOz6g v https://youtu.be/fyJAU9SqPk4

    Then, as you can "remember" the chord progression when it loops around ( focus on melody first - Green Notes) then Blue accompaniment when you have the melody sorted out.

    You may be better off learning how to play chorded sequences if you have a good tonal memory, or a verbal memory, i.e. remembering lyrics over melodic sequences.

    The other easier sequence might be from Mass Effect 3's "An End, Once and for all" which is the "beginner" level, and should be somewhat easy to memorise/troubleshoot your ability to pack the song to memory. https://youtu.be/2qbO4sxjzOU

    If you struggle with And End, Once and for All, you should find alternatives.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:56

      Well I was a big fan of the ninga Gaiden Series when I was young, also the name of the song fits well with what I am trying to achieve with my kid.

      I would absolutely love to play both Aerith and Tifa Theme one day. I guess I can practice with headphone on when the wife and kid going to bed.

      Thanks for the link by the way, will check it out on the weekend.

  • harveyworld on 14/10/2021 - 23:44

    I had piano lessons bought for me several years ago as a birthday present as its something i've always wanted to do.
    The reality was much harder especially getting the left brain and right brain working in unison.

    One of the key problems as an adult is also the dexterity of the hands and fingers to go where you want them to go. .

    You don't say how old you are, (and age should be no barrier to learn), but to do this by Christmas will require a lot of patience, discipline , practice, and flexibility within the hands .

    Good Luck with your decision and if you go for it remember to record it and put it on you tube for us all to see.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 14/10/2021 - 23:57

      Youtube! Great idea. I might do a day by day progress as my mini subject. Thanks for the suggestion. This is going to be fun! I hope!

  • SmiTTy on 15/10/2021 - 00:14
    +4

    I won't comment on the piece. But just want to say hats off to you for going to such lengths to try to encourage your kid. Good on u.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:07

      Thanks. Kindly follow my YouTube progress and see how I go…….

  • gummibear on 15/10/2021 - 00:36
    +2

    Just wondering if you would be upset if your effort doesn't motivate her to stick with the piano?

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:08

      Upset is no, but I would be disappointed as she has been doing it for more than 2 years, also $10k spent so far not including the piano……

  • SlickMick on 15/10/2021 - 09:13

    I have no idea, but I voted yes to inspire you.
    Shame on all you who voted no. ;)

    I'm admittedly ignorant of the finer points of music, but I reckon you can already play it today, perhaps just not very well. By Xmas I'd expect you would be better.
    Maybe you'll have everyone in tears if you nail it on the day, or maybe everyone will mock the lack of results for your efforts.
    Either way, your kid might just realise that this must be important, for you to put in so much effort.

    …. or you might put them off music forever :)

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:09

      Thanks, it is indeed a very fine line and I am just trying to find the balance, however I wont force her if she wakes up one day and said I dont want to do it anymore. At the moment we are not there yet………………

  • lovepub on 15/10/2021 - 09:22

    Find a piece with playing on 1 hand only ? I would be capable of memorising all the keys with one hand …two hand would be tough unless u played other instrument before.

    For someone who is a complete noob to music, it's pretty hard I recon. But not impossible. You might find you have the talent for it.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:09

      I should have done that, but since I am going to do it, I might as well find something I really enjoy doing……….

  • sagrules on 15/10/2021 - 09:36

    Can you pick an easier piece that would inspire your child?
    I'm not sure your childs age but maybe a movie theme song or similar that would motivate them to play.
    I remember years ago when I tried to pick up guitar for the first time and they made me practice old mcdonald had a farm. It wasn't really motivating to me to spend hours to learn that song.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:10

      Easier piece wont have the same result, as she has now into her second AMEB exam. Has to be something even she thinks its hard to play.

  • OzHunterNSW on 15/10/2021 - 10:15

    Yes of course it is… they even SHOW you. How do you think people learn by guitar?
    Take note of the keys used (mark them) then look at the sequence in which they are played.

    How simple is that?

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:11

      I have a friend who said she can show me if I am mid way and struggling when putting both hands together, she gave me this evil smile while she said it……hmmmm……..

  • afah0447 on 15/10/2021 - 11:04

    Get your kid to play the guitar. Its more relevant these days and more useful later in life for a variety of reasons!!

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 18:11

      I got a guitar, she said its too hard on the strings and give up within 1 day.

  • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 19:23

    https://youtu.be/aWU2sxwijJ0 (Day 1)

  • DazMon on 15/10/2021 - 20:12

    With piano or any musical instrument, you need time to play just what you want to play, like tinkering, improvising, jamming.
    Having someone force you all the time will turn you off for sure.
    Music is not just another 'subject' or 'activity', its more than that.
    And for the record the way I learnt music and they way you're trying to 'teach' music are worlds apart.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 21:34

      Advise for a 8 year old?

      She has so far given up: Dancing ( 1 year), Volleyball (6 months), Ice Skating (14 months), Guitar (1 Day), Hip Hop Dance (3 months)

      I mean you cant just let kids start something then stop all of a sudden. What kind of message would you send if you keep telling you kids its ok to give up on things all the time???

      I know what you mean but its a hard one………….

      • DazMon on 17/10/2021 - 15:32

        Its not giving up, there just trying to find what they like not what you like…
        My boys aren't musical.
        They come in and attack my studio.

  • Aerith-Waifu on 15/10/2021 - 21:38

    I just finished day 2 practice, I have to say this is really really hard, after 63 mins my figners just dont feel anything……….can i really keep this up till Christmas this year????

    Have to continue and not stop!!!!

    Day 2: https://youtu.be/M4ApCsg3hPU

    • Aerith-Waifu on 17/10/2021 - 00:47

      You missing the point, the aim is to inspire the kid, not trying to be like her as I know with only 2 months to learn the song its going to be a very hard task.

      Day 3 has just been updated if you want to see my progress:)

      • Zachary on 23/10/2021 - 01:32

        The only way to inspire someone is to be perfect at it or really good at it that they don't notice any flaws with your fingering. If you half arse it, it won't work.

        Lindsey Stirling almost made me take up an instrument because i was inspired at how perfect she was with her violin; able to to attune to any music and play just by ear when she's never heard it before and even turn it into her own piece somehow and smoothly make up her own notes on the spot that would sound like if the original artist did it. She could even dance and doo stuff with her body all whilst playing perfect notes on her violin that would have had exhausted an average violinist after a few movements!

      • Zachary on 29/10/2021 - 13:37

        Well, it's either that or you need to have your charisma maxed out(or higher than everyone else) and can inspire her that way.

  • SSJX on 17/10/2021 - 18:29

    Hi OP. Just watched your videos - keep up the good work!

    Just wondering which Yamaha piano do you have?

    • Aerith-Waifu on 17/10/2021 - 23:46

      Thanks, its called CLP645B, it has the wooden key on it compares to the next model down which has the plastic key to it. Wooden key feels much nicer hence we made the decision to make the purchase.

      Just in case you follow my video here is day 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgCIG3Y6Yf0

  • lgacb08 on 23/10/2021 - 21:38

    as someone who's been through this, and was a lot better than your daughter in being persistent, I'd recommend against doing this futile attempt because by the time she goes to highschool all of those skills will be gone (if you get to keep pushing that far).
    Playing musical instrument requires some sort of natural talents and hard work, it's not simple as riding a bike where you once learn doing it you'll have no issue do it again after 30 years not touching the bike. My older sister started playing 3 years later than me but she only took 6 months to catch up and surpass me. To this date she still play occasionally at her own pleasure but that's about it.
    I recommend you find a common ground with your daughter and put investment in some extra-curricular skills that she enjoy/has some skill at it.

  • stwongy on 24/10/2021 - 01:53

    Not to be rude but I think your attempt to inspire your kid like this is a futile effort. This is more a challenge for you to prove them wrong, and a maybe an personal interest challenge for yourself. It isn't going to inspire them. Inspiration is intrinsic. Inspiration also comes when someone does something you cannot do and you want to do.

    Also, learning by yourself like that without being formally taught the basics will hinder your progress, massively. It's a very inefficient way to learn. Well, that's my prediction atleast and i am happy to he proven wrong.

    In regards to your kids motivation, i understand that all too well. This is speaking from someone that did piano lessons for like 9 years as a kid to teen and then I dropped it because of some stuff that happened in my family and etc and it affected me emotionally and psychologically for a very long time. Another fact was that neither did my mum, nor me knew that pianos had to be tuned!

    Anyways, I tried to play again later in high school because i was inspired by an anime and then stopped again. Then, I came back to it in the beginning of 2020 and just play for myself now, time to time, with my biggest motivation being playing songs i like listening to and learning about chords and stuff.

    I learned that have a huge detest for the AMEB method, where you just learn how to read off sheets and you barely learn anything about learning to play by ear or any natural kind of musicality.

    I think having a good teacher a huge part of being motivated and wanting to learn. Of course, you have to show your child other forms of motivations . Maybe s/he doesn't like the songs s/he's being forced to learn, maybe ask what songs they would like to learn. For me personally, playing songs i want to play and can sing to, is a huge motivation for myself.

    Ask if they would like to sing and play a song at the same time, it's much more fun this way for me.

    I've been able to play songs I want to thanks to UltimateGuitar. Its a tab and chord website originally for guitars but they recently added a piano chord function to it and it is amazing. Ive been learning how to chords work from Ultimate Guitar, and it's a great way to learn and apply these foundations.

    Maybe check it out, you haven't mentioned your kid's age so I don't know what level of emotional maturity they are at yet.

  • leiiv on 24/10/2021 - 02:46

    Why not inspire her with your "next-level" glass art instead?
    Or maybe you would have higher chance with this song: https://youtu.be/vCSlPx0Dojc

    • MITM on 28/10/2021 - 17:00

      1st comment on the YouTube:
      "Well… After nearly 6 months of practice with absolutely no prior background in learning the piano, I can finally play the whole thing from start to finish."

      Have you thought about taking your child to a recital/concert for inspiration ?

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