What is the most popular footy code in Australia? Can we please sort this once and for all.
Which do you follow or enjoy ?
AFL, NRL, Both or None ?
PumaPuma on 03/10/2021 - 08:09
Last edited 03/10/2021 - 12:04 by 1 other user
Last edited 03/10/2021 - 12:04 by 1 other user
Poll Options
- 73AFL
- 33NRL
- 6Both
- 96None
- 2Other (see comment below)
Comments
I, assume, you are being ironic.
Cough, “bubbler”, cough.
What can we expect from people who run full bore to crash into each other and regularly get hit in the head?
Might as well just get rid of the "ball" and call it team wrestling.
We know someone who calls NFL, in America, “Cross Country wrestling”.
Also it combines the two worst things in America; extreme violence and committee meetings.
Follow the money.
What does viewership, TV ratings, sponsorships, attendance (pre-covid), memberships…etc tell you?
I assume AFL, but could be wrong.
Tennis
Round ball is the real football.
…that no one here watches.
NRL and AFL would be more aptly named handegg.
Why do they call it football when the ball they use is called a soccer ball?
cricket?
There is no "S" in FIFA…..
European football?
If you compare (pre covid) ground attendance numbers and tv rights deal $$'s, it would clearly be AFL.
But if you broke it down by state there would clearly be a more pronounced difference.
What is the most popular footy code in
AustraliaOzB?FTFY :)
I don’t follow any.
EPL
I'm fond of kick a Premier and kick a Prime Minister.
AFL is proof that if you get people obsessed enough with a team then it doesn't matter if the sport itself is a mess devoid of any structure.
When it's played well like what the Demons produced from late in the second quarter it's a decent game to watch, just a pity the majority of most games are a scrappy mess.
AFL has a public holiday dedicated to it. NRL doesn’t because it’s not good enough to have one dedicated to it, because it sucks.
The only reason the AFL has a PH is because one of our other PH was deleted, so they had to come up with another occasion. Never been to a grand final parade
Which public holiday was deleted and when?
Melbourne Show Day was deleted by the Hawthorn Football Club president in 1994.
@Ghost47: Pity he closed Fairfield Infectious diseases hospital, as well. We could do with it about now.
@Ghost47: That is what Victoria gets when they elect "Progressive Leaders" like Dan, along with injecting rooms of course.
@Ade99: Frankly injecting rooms are a great idea. I live in inner Fitzroy and, for quite a while, the first task of the day was to pick up all the syringes in my street and take them to the disposal site. I’ve seen girls, with prams, injecting drugs standing in dirty laneways, I’ve seen people sitting in driveways injecting between their toes, I’ve called ambulances for people who have had an overdose and are lying in the footpath. Drug taking is a medical issue. It is best dealt with in a medical setting. A lot of these people self medicate because they have crap lives or mental illnesses. Frankly I would, much, rather they were being dealt with in safe secure environments with access to the services that might help them get off the drugs.
Actually, I’m Victorian and I used to be embarrassed that we had a public holiday for a horse race. Now the horse race is our, second, most embarrassing public holiday.
Fair enough, it does seem to bother people. I guess you can spend the day volunteering or working instead if you’re embarrassed by it?
I don’t mind a public holiday but one for the day before a grand final? There are a lot of, really, good reasons to honour an event worthy of a public holiday.
@try2bhelpful: Yeah fair enough, I guess the reason for the GF public holiday is kind of weak. Personally I'm happy enough that there's a day off for it, not going to criticise why I'm getting another long weekend during the year.
I think you'll find both NSW and Queensland were first to move public holidays to the Monday after the grand final.
Victoria's government eventually followed their northern neighbours but was the only state to actually name the public holiday after a privately-run, for-profit event.
How you interpret that is up to you.
The NRL runs their competition on Sunday night so, maybe, it is to avoid the “hangover” effect on Monday morning.
I’d say there’s a difference between moving a holiday and reinstating one that was previously removed by the opposition.
never seen NRL or diveballl get 100k people to a grand final
1999
That’s because the biggest stadium in NSW only hold about 83,500 people.
AFL gets that to normal games between 2 teams - not the entire round added up :P
Diveball wouldnt get that many for the year :D :D :DAnyway didnt they rip down the stadium to build a bigger one.. was that homebush?
@pegaxs: definitely inflating the numbers a bit, but still.
Take out western sydney and gold coast, and its pretty rare to see 30-40k people at NRL games ever
average is like 1/3rd per gamehttps://afltables.com/rl/crowds/2019.html
Not a massive fan of either, but having been to both types of games, AFL definitely has more atmosphere and the fans are much more 'interested'.
@SBOB: Have a look at my link above. The AFL gets an, astonishing, number of attendees per game; even on the world scale. According to the link the MCG is one of the largest stadiums in the world, by number of seats. I would think the stadiums in India would be bigger.
The size of the crowd is not a valid point of reference, the stadiums are different. Aussie Rules is played on cricket grounds that are naturally bigger.
A better crowd size comparison would be AFL and cricket, they're played on the same grounds.
@Ryk: The equivalent to cricket, in Australia, would be the club cricket that gets tiny crowds. Even the Sheffield shields are, very, poorly attended. Below is the list of cricket grounds, around the world. The MCG is second largest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricket_grounds_by_cap…
What I’m trying to highlight is that the AFL punches above its weight, particularly given our population size.
Frankly I’m not interested in either NRL, AFL or the “round ball” game. My “football” of choice is NFL; but preferably as a highlights package.
All I will note is the NRL hasn’t managed to get two teams established in Melbourne; which, given Melbournians will go to the opening of a sporting envelope, must be a tad worrying.
@try2bhelpful: I dont think RL cares much either way about Melbourne, it's never going to dominate there. The Storm only exists so Uncle Rupert can write a few column inches, about a local team, in his daily rag.
More concerning would be only one team in Brisbane.@Ryk: Yeah, but it doesn't make it a, truly, National team sport. The only thing that the AFL lacks is Tasmania and, I suspect, that it will pick up, or relocate, a team there soon. My only quibble is why Storm exists - I suspect it has more to do with gambling than Uncle Rupert. Given the wall to wall carpet of AFL news in the Hun I don't think that he, really, needs to kick in any NRL info as well. The thing that might get interesting is if the AFL decides to look at even more interstate teams; however, they would need to relocate a few more Melbourne based ones or the whole competition gets, really, unwieldly. However, that creates merry stink when they try it. The advantage the AFL had with Covid was it could move its finals to a number of other State locations, if it needed to. The NRL was restricted to the East Coast- they were just lucky Queensland didn't listen to the PM for NSW.
None. Mostly because my parents never watched sport I guess.
poll needs to capture geography, otherwise it descends to a potato cake/scallop debate.
I was thinking vegemite debate…..
Use the Barassi Line.
Are you talking about Australian Rules Football and Rugby League, or just the top-level AFL / NRL competition? Because AFL and NRL are not 'footy codes'.
I love you. This is one of my favourite pedantic hills to die on.
NRL has destroyed rugby league. Every year they bring in new rules supposedly to fix something, but always further damaging the game.
I understand channel 9 is offering them far less next year because ratings are down (I barely watched a game this season) and are going to televise union next year. I've been waiting for that for years.I do like NFL - it's more strategic with just short intervals of action, but it is soooo time consuming. It's good for watching with a crowd to fill in the bits between action, or prerecording and skipping between plays.
They've been showing union on TV as much this year as they will next year, most will still be behind Stan Sport sub.
ps. and AFL is a clumsy, sloppy game… seems more suited for a kids game than a sport
AFL isn't the sport, so finding the highest-level of competition of Australian Rules Football (i.e. AFL) as clumsy and sloppy probably gives you an idea of what it is like to watch the lower levels of the game.
lol the mind boggles.
I can just imagine the primary school rugby tryouts - all the unco kids getting told they'd be more suited for aussie rules.
it's one never ending knock-on rolling down the pitch.
Yeah, nah. I suspect it is what you grow up with. Many AFL people find rugby disjointed stop and start. Many people find NFL completely baffling. Frankly I find soccer tedious, apart from when a goal is kicked, but aficionados love it.
I've heard rugby described as one person shoving four people up three people's backsides. To me I find RL the most uninteresting football game of the lot.
I, really, don't think you can generalise; it is what people grow up with and what they understand.
I grew up playing and enjoying soccer. Moved to Melbourne in my late 20s and became fascinated by AFL.
Can't fathom rugby at all.
Melbourne isn't a bad city for soccer because we have a lot of European migrants from after WW11. (This, and the subsequent Asian migrants, are why we have a vibrant food culture). However, it did lead to some bloodshed around the use of Soccer names associated with various migrant communities. Old grudges were played out in the soccer stadiums.
Soccer is soooooo freaking boring. I’m all for delayed gratification but soccer is on a whole other level. Kicking the ball from end to end for 90 minutes or whatever ughhh the thought of watching that kind of thing, boooooorrrrriiiinnnngggggg.
Just not my thing, but happy for it to be other people's. However, there is some trains of thought that the soccer hooliganism, in the stands, might be related to the limited scoring. Me, I just think it is a minority bunch of tossers who need to get more intelligence and less alcohol.
Soccer would be great if there were enough points scored to make it interesting. Maybe bigger goals or no goalie or something
I of course follow both in addition to many other sports. But more power to people who can only devote themselves to one sport.
NRL, a gentleman's game