OSRAM Parathom LED 12w A60 Light Bulb (50w+ Equivalent) $29.90 at Bunnings

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  kei on 05/03/2012 - 13:03

  They have 10W ones? pure white ones as well?

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    Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 13:08

    I remember seeing 6, 8 and 10 watt globes in both warm and cool white at Bunnings. Prices were lower for the lower wattage lights too (about $22 for 10w, from memory). The OSRAM Parathom LEDs are a new product so unfortunately don't appear on the Bunnings web site.

    I don't recall what colour temperature the cool white lights were, but the warm white are 3000K. That's a bit lighter than the common 2700K warm white CFLs which tend to be bordering on yellow in colour.

    http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Home_Lighting/LED_la…

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  roughana on 05/03/2012 - 13:57

  Cudo has a deal on 5W ones today which are apparently equivalent to 60W incandescent. 5 for $99 delivered.
  http://cudo.com.au/sydney/a-pack-of-environmentally-friendly…

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    Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 14:10

    There is no chance these 5W LEDs are equivalent to a 60W incandescent. The OSRAM LED achieves 650lm at 12w, giving 54lm/w. The best lumen per watt efficiency comes from plasma light at 90lm/w. These alleged 60w equivalent LEDs would have to have an efficiency of around 150lm/w. Much better than the most efficient form of lighting available? I don't think so.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_lamp

    Karno appears to be an importer of cheap Chinese goods, and these LEDs are likely to be generic lights with grossly inflated specifications.

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      cheaparse on 05/03/2012 - 14:23

      What's the difference between these LED that you claim 54lm/w is the best there can be and CREE LED?

      http://www.cree.com/press/press_detail.asp?i=1304945651119
      The CREE LED claims to have achieved 241lm/w. It this commercial vs domestic LED?

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        Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 14:34

        I didn't state anywhere that 54l/w is the best LED efficiency available. There are more efficient lights available. Regarding the cheap LED light posted in the comment link, amazing claims from a web site selling no name cheap LED lights backed by an unknown company or the claims of OSRAM, a German company more than a century in the business. I know whose specifications I would believe.

        CREE's achievement is remarkable. They claim to have achieved pretty much the ideal white light. Have they released a commercial product featuring this kind of efficiency?

        The other thing to consider is that diffusers limit the efficiency. Uncovered LEDs can be used, but they produce the segmented shadows LED arrays are famous for. AC-DC converter is not 100% efficient. By the time CREE's LEDs are placed in a commercial product they'll have a lower overall efficiency.

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        llama on 05/03/2012 - 21:13

        Cree efficiency is based on laboratory chips, not real products.

        Most domestic-grade LEDs (even from Cree) are around 60 to 70 lumens per watt, which is still well short of linear fluorescent (almost 100lm/W

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  [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 14:09

  Good deal in Rip-off Australia, but I bought similar products in China for $3 retail.

  Somebody's making HUGE profits.

  And before anyone says anything, these bulbs in the deal will be made in China and the factory will not have an 'Osram' sign on it. It will say something like "New Age Eco Lightbulbs (Dongguan) LTD"

  They may SAY they are made in Taiwan, but…….

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    Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 14:16

    Looking at the OSRAM Parathom packaging, it does indeed say made in China. I have some cheap 240v LED lights from DealExtreme and while they work, they're much dimmer than specified and not true warm white light. There's more to a light bulb than just price: efficiency (true, not inflated), Colour Rendering Index, whether yellow phosphor coated blue LEDs are used or RGB LEDs, etc.

    As to 'rip off Australia', high quality LED lamps are expensive in other countries too. See posted link from Amazon Germany (the home of OSRAM).

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  d3ft on 05/03/2012 - 14:26

  Can someone explain to me why I would spend $30 on a light bulb? Do these cost basically nothing to run or something?

  I'm not trying to troll, I'm genuinely interested.

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    Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 14:37

    High CRI (quality of light), long life, designed by a globally renowned brand. As others have commented it's possible to buy 240v LED lights for $5 or even less. Consumers are free to try both and compare the results. If they're happy with the much cheaper product, then great.

    As with everything electronic, OSRAM's product will fall in price once more competition enters the market. CFLs will probably be gone from stores within a decade.

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    voter1 on 05/03/2012 - 14:42

    +1

    they should be 3x cheaper to run than the older "energy saving" ones as well as lasting 3 times longer too.

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      [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 17:17

      Er, No.

      Fixed costs vs operational costs.

      You just need to save the difference in upfront costs, say $10 per bulb, over the lifetime of the bulb. If that was 5 years, you would have to save $2 per year in electricity costs.

      Plus LEDs are safer, are more flexible in their use (can replace halogen downlights and traditional bulbs), have better quality light, last longer, are safer……

      and save money on electricy.

      See. They are rather good. If they were sold at anything like their production cost it'd be a no brainer.

      Watch this space……..

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        djb on 05/03/2012 - 20:12

        Another very important factor is that LED globes are very cool when lit. They produce much less heat than pretty much any other type of globe, making them safe to handle and very good for use in hot weather.

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        [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 22:54

        Erm. That's why I said it's safer ;)

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  [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 14:28

  I'm sure the bulbs are better than the ones I buy in China, but not nearly 10 times better.

  If you have to buy them here, you need to pay the middle men ;)

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  [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 14:45

  They are fantastic products and save loads in electicity useage, but, what the rep says is 100% true.

  BTW CFL are toxic!

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    Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 14:50

    By the way, I'm not a rep :-) Just a customer who bought one of these expensive LEDs while shopping for CFLs. I'm passionate about the topic of lighting efficiency and products and I've been waiting for high quality solid state lighting to come down to a more realistic price (albeit still high).

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      [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 15:00

      Oops! Sorry….

      LEDs are great products and will be standard (and cheap) within a few years.

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  krisspy on 05/03/2012 - 14:46

  30 bucks? I bought a 50w led from DX for $30. Its brighter than the sodium bulbs on the street lights down the road.

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    rifter on 05/03/2012 - 15:47

    Ever looked at street lighting from a plane? Quite the opposite of what things appear from close up. The white and mercury vapour lights light up very little of the ground. The sodium vapour lights are far more visible and light up significantly larger areas.

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  [Deactivated] on 05/03/2012 - 14:57

  50w!!!!!!! LOL

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  Matt P on 05/03/2012 - 17:36

  Let me just clarify. The Amazon shows usage as 1 watt. The thread here states 12w equivalent to a 50w+, are these the equivalents to CFL/Incandescent bulbs respectively? If these are actually 12w, i'm not sure how they're more efficient than the CFL's

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    Cluster on 05/03/2012 - 18:46

    Stromverbrauch : 1 Watt

    That is a clear error. The Amazon page states the usage is 12 watts twice. Someone just forgot to press the '2' in one section.

    LED-Glühlampe, PARATHOM® CLASSIC, E27/240V/12W, OSRAM

    CL A 60 (frosted) WW, 12 W, 640 lm