Just wondering if it is true that any children under 16 years old can practice real life GTA without consequences?
Recently my 70 years old parent was kicked from behind by a 14 years old teenager while walking towards her car before the teenager stole her car key and drove her car away. According to the police officer who managed to stop the teenager by wrecking my parent’s car said that there was nothing they could do but to release the teenager.
So the police officer lied to my parent?
Not 100% sure about this incident, but I'll address this question "So the police officer lied…" by asking you a question.
And the potential of this surprises you?
(Sorry about the situation and your folks)… Should see what the NSW force is like and the crap that comes out of their mouths. I understand Vic is heading the same way sadly… It's the way the academy is "raising the force nowadays" I believe…
*Not all are this way thankfully.
Children can certainly be reprimanded for criminal offences.
You've been a very naughty boy!
Do you mean remanded?
solution: have your own 16yr kid knock some sense into the offenders
they'll get away with it, right?
Unfortunately the identity of the offender cannot be shared with my parent due to some reason. Anyway I don’t think knocking back will set things right other than creating more troubles.
am sorry to hear about what happened to your parent, its ridiculous how much underage crims get away with.
Apparently our Australian culture is to let the children eat what they want to eat and let them do what they want to do. I guess my parents shouldn’t take their freedoms to walk around as granted and must watch their backs to prevent any unfortunate events from happening again.
Trikies.
I don't think you have the whole story here.
That the teenager was bailed doesn't mean they will face no consequences.
No. The police officer told my parent that they could not charge the offender due to his age. There is no recourse from his parents or guardians either.
You have the story wrong here, the police can only charge someone not prosecute an offense, the prosecutors do not want to do their job, so the polices hands are tied. They probably got off with a warning if it was their first offense.
There is a prosecutor who can decide whether to let the offender go with a warning? How is it decided? Sounds strange that if the offender got only a warning after all the trouble that the police officer had to wreck my parent’s car in order to stop him.
@wtfnodeal: Thats their job, they decide who to prosecute usually based on our laws. They have discretionary powers to charge based on evidence or be lenient depending on many factors.
@garetz: Is that why the police could not be bothered to charge the offender knowing the prosecutor was going to let him go anyway? Probably why quite often I see some high school students smoking on a bench outside a shopping centre and no one cares about it.
Did your relative give a statement and press charges for assault? In some circumstances where the victim does not wish to give evidence the police won't be able to proceed.
She suffered some injuries and could barely walk for the first few weeks but unsure if she has now spoken to the police yet.
afaik you get a juvinile caution or several. Then possibly juvenile prison
According to this there were 75 juveniles during the 2020 inspection - this is the only one in WA. youngest was 3x13 year olds, and 4x14 year olds.
If your parent is unhappy with the outcome they can make a complaint - https://www.police.wa.gov.au/Police-Direct/Commendations-and…
Not that she is unhappy but thinks that they are unbelievably vulnerable to the teenagers who can do whatever they want. I think they now have more concern about getting robbed than getting COVID.
Firstly I am really sorry to hear that your parent had to endure that..
Secondly, just to add a little bit to this conversation. The problem is the whole system is structured around enabling these kids to act rogue. My cousin works in the force and he tells me how they are shackled by the system to do anything about these morons.
Even the media, protects them. Most crimes go unreported. Surprisingly, since last year domestic robberies have tripled here in Victoria but media won’t pick it up. What I have been told is that most of these offenders are black kids (Somali Refugees) and since the BLM push, media won’t cover a story that paints a person of colour in bad light, In the fear of pushback from SJW’s
Plus the angle of protecting our ‘precious kids’, the whole system is fcked. And its only getting worse.
My friend/work colleague was raped and murdered by someone who just turned 18. That person is in prison for 30+ years now. Many kids are going to go down this path and would be spending most of their youth or life in a prison which they deserve. I don’t know what is the solution to this but it damages far too many people. This person had previously committed a string of offences and gotten away with a few or no consequences.
Sorry about your friend.
100%… I pray for the future generations.
They think it's cool to steal cars, break into houses etc, it's getting worse and worse every year. I have a friend in the Police who says some of the kids she deals with have more than 20 offences over multiple years and yet they still get let off by the courts for rehabilitation prospects.
Isn’t it human nature, both kids and grownups to do whatever we want including doing the wrongs if there are no consequences? Life is short, why would the grownups work so hard for a living when others can provide, willingly or unwillingly whenever we want to take without consequences. Or maybe simply because the kids knowing whatever they do without consequences, they cannot differentiate between right and wrong?
Isn’t it human nature, both kids and grownups to do whatever we want including doing the wrongs if there are no consequences.
I'd say the opposite, it's human nature that allows us to know inherently what is right and what is wrong.
@Pelicannn: There is an interesting video on YouTube on how human brains can be manipulated to do things we don’t even know if killing other people is wrong. It was a clinical test and the result was shocking.
It was a clinical test and the result was shocking.
Great pun… I've read about it, people given the opportunity to subject others to electric shocks, up to and over amounts that would kill people and they did it willingly.
@Pelicannn: We don’t inherently know what is right and what is wrong especially when children are brought up to do what majority of us are doing and no negative consequences for doing so they will believe what they are doing is right. Did you know back then no laws restricted children under 18 years old from buying cigarettes and smoking was a cool thing to do?
domestic robberies have tripled
Can you provide source? I mean with long lockdowns, it's kind of hard.
Crime statistics highlight impact of coronavirus lockdowns in Victoria
FALLS:
Property and deception offences down 12.1 per cent
Thefts from motor vehicles down 14.3 per cent
Robberies down 28.7 per cent
There was a 23% decrease in unlawful entry with intent and other theft, and a 17% drop in motor vehicle theft from 2019.
Coinciding with COVID-19 restrictions, these offences declined to the lowest numbers in over twenty-five years.
In the fear of pushback from SJW’s
This is a huge issue.
It’s when they come in with an oppresser that you are going to have issues
Police will try but they can't be stopped. In SEQ, children as young as 10 have been involved in multiple break and enter crimes, car thefts, evade police etc, only for the courts to slap them on the wrist and let them go. It's all a game to them, and social media is making it worse. I have seen instances of children who look barely 13 or 14, live streaming on instagram or facebook them driving 150km/h+ down highways etc. They steal high end cars, brag about it on social media and then their friends say look at me I can do better. It's brazen and getting out of control, especially around Logan, Caboolture and Coomera. There are teenage gangs going around stealing cars in the north and south of Brisbane just trying to outdo each other.
I saw a video on facebook the other day where a lady was confronted whilst sleeping in her bed, by teenagers just walking into her room and demanding her keys. That is terrifying and that lady will probably have long psychological effects for years to come from that incident. The husband managed to catch one with the neighbours who they reckon was around about a 15 year old girl, who was terrified and so they let her go. Even worse now, had the husband have done something (like some would - aka beat the living shit out of anyone who broke into their home, their bedroom) then the husband is the one who gets a worse offence than the child.
The current Youth Justice Laws in Queensland do nothing to prevent this sort of thing. Look at the teenager (17) who killed that couple and their unborn child in a stolen car whilst high on drugs. He was already on bail for multiple driving offences, including stealing cars… Now because he is 17, he will get a trial behind closed doors etc, released in a few years under a new name etc and go on with life. If it were my choice, and most other people in the community he would be locked away for life.
The law is what is allowing this, the Police catch them, then the Courts let them off with very light sentences because they are trying to focus on rehabilitation and keeping children out of gaol.
I can only say that when I look at the generations of children growing up now, with social media as rampant as it is, cyber bullying, eshay culture where it's cool to be a little ganster.. it's sad and I worry about future of society. When I was growing up, sure we had some of the classic big bad bully kids in school, but they were the minority, and the majority knew they were losers that would never amount to anything in life (which has mostly been true of sorts - I know plenty of people I went to highschool with that have ended up in prison for very serious offences). Nowadays it seems the minority is growing and more and more kids are turning stupid and not thinking about their future.
The current Youth Justice Laws in Queensland do nothing to prevent this sort of thing.
In most states…
Vic certainly doesn't have the QLD problem Bud .
Actually all the other states and territories don't have it .
Mate in Freo had his car stolen,and it was almost too much like hard work for the cop he said.. Had footage of the car and offender and all
OP's case I'm betting the cop has been through it 10000 times before, and its a certain tribe of people in WA who get away with everything or pull the race card..
The cop possibly CBF to waste time and paperwork knowing going to court - nothing will come of it.. hes probably on first name basis with the kid and his parents.
Yeah probably the local police officers are aware of him: “oh him again”.
Car was broken into in driveway by one of our indigenous neighbours. CCTV had a good picture, really good picture. He was literally looking at the camera and smiling. They know they're untouchable.
Police found the stolen bag in the neighbours bin, out the front of house.
Bag was returned, after being fished out of their filthy bin.
Used to hate the word cop, I always refered to the police officers with more respect. However, the cop taking statement wasn't interested, didn't care and couldn't be bothered.
The next night after police intervention, all 4 tyres slashed. Sitting on the rims.
Why even bother, they're allowed to get away with it and enabled to do so.
Unfortunately, vigilantes are prosecuted and punished more than the perpetrators.
Used to hate the word cop, I always refered to the police officers with more respect. However, the cop taking statement wasn't interested, didn't care and couldn't be bothered.
thats because they know their work is a waste of time… Im no huge fan of the bacon either, i rode bikes for 10 yrs before getting a car and got nailed for nothing more than once
anyway if by some accident in paperwork these scum get to court, they get a "community corrections order" which is as useful as a glass of water to a scuba diver.
I certainly would go the bikie option on our lovely hard done by neighbours.
YMMV
edit: no idea why you got negged…. truth hurts I guess.
Heh, I recently had a door knocker from Amesty, who wanted subscription donations to help lift the bill that allows kids to be taken to court, charged and child jail from 10yo to 14yo- even for serial offenders.
By the way OP most people don't know what GTA is ?
Grand Theft Auto. It is the first Google search result if you search for GTA.
https://www.childrenscourt.wa.gov.au/
Children can certainly be reprimanded for criminal offences. Call 131 444 non-urgent police line and get some feedback. Sorry to hear about your parent and hope they're well.