Hi everyone,
I plan to buy my wife a new Toyota Yaris - YRS, 5 door, manual.
The Discount New Cars guide price is $17,390 with a driveaway price of $20,704
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/toyota/toyota-yaris-ncp131…
What drive away price should I aim for in my negotiations with dealers? What sort of discount has anyone else achieved recently on a Yaris?
Thanks,
nige0090
Yaris - Manual
I have one of these and its a nice car to drive, but so are many new cars.
There is one major issue with this car.
It uses drive by wire technology, changing gears goes against all the "knowledge" I have had with "manual" manuals. There is a lag between letting out the clutch and using the accelerator. And this is to spec according to 3 different Toyota service centres.
What this lag creates is.
You cant get that nice smooth take off without have the engine over rev.
In both cases I feel like I am a learner driver rather than one with X (too many to quote) years of driving experience.
Nice car BUT these are things that put me off owning a Toyota again.
Now this might have been fixed, so make sure you do an extensive test drive first, in a manual and be aware of this possibility when you test drive it. That way you can see if this affects you.
And I agree with Stewballs on the price, $20000 for a Yaris Manual, when the base for a 3 door manual is just under $15000 is steep. Agree that there are bigger and better choices for that sort of money.
Not sure about best Yaris price Nige but that does seem a lot for what you get drive away?
Did you take a look at what else is on offer around the $20k drive away price..?? The Honda Civic for one seems to be much better value… as would some others shown below…
Honda Civic
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/honda-civic-2011-116… 1252 4294965322 4294965250 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5|Year:2011,Max&sort=default
Ford Focus
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/ford-focus-2011-1186… 1252 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,20000~1|Year:2011,Max|Mileage:Min,10000&sort=default
Kia Cerato
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/kia-cerato-2011-11… 1252 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,20000~1|Year:2011,Max|Mileage:Min,10000
Hyundai I30
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/hyundai-i30-2011-113… 1252 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,20000~1|Year:2011,Max|Mileage:Min,10000
Mitsubishi Lancer
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/mitsubishi-lancer-20… 1247 1252 4294964597&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,20000~1|Year:2011,Max|Mileage:Min,10000&sort=default
True, but those are all 2011 cars as opposed to a new 2012 Yaris. And only the Kia is in NSW.
It's worth bearing in mind that there's probably not too many 2012 build cars in the country ATM, many will be 2011 build, 2012 model/compliance.
Those in the list above were only provided as a "what you could get" example. It is an indicatior as to how low a purchaser could expect to go.
I would rather have a much better new car than one with a '12 compliance plate.
$20k d/away just seemed a lot for a tiny little car like a Yaris?
For a real bargain shopping trolley thats almost new with low k's Nige I would be heading straight to Pickles auctions and pocket the $000's saved. A lot of them still come with new car (manufactuer) warranty. I got one from there for my missus and Toyota spent $3000 on warranty work without any problems at all.
After a couple of shopping center combat encounters your "new" car will very quickly be no longer a new car… :-(
Take the better half for a look and drive of the new Honda Civic.. she will never look at a Yaris again at that money.
All the best in your hunt Nige…
Well, I looked at the Yaris but the dealer didn't have any manuals to test drive. I also didn't like the interior plastics much. They looked a bit cheap. I also looked at some Ford Fistas at my local dealer. They had better interiors and had lower drive away prices. Again no manuals, and no intention to get any in. Finally, walked by the Nissan dealer on the way home and test drove their 1.2 Micra on impulse. It would fulfill the intended role as a shopping cart quite nicely and I think I can get a very good deal.
I'd really suggest that you drive the Fiesta (& all others in the class) before you settle nige. Your profile suggests that you're in Sydney, where there's nearly a dealer on every corner, so surely one of them can find you a manual to drive?
It's also worth looking at the Hyundai Accent, they're a really nice little car for the money too IMHO!
I'm with xywolap, there's a hell of a lot of nice cars out there in your price range, it's hard work but don't rest til you've tried them all…you'll thank yourself for it afterward! :)
For $20k get a base Model Corolla, slightly bigger, same hatch, invincible engine, much better interior.
At lease worth a look, there's a reason Corollas hold their value so well…
Not like they used to… Kia, Hyundai, Honda, Lancer and others are stepping up to the mark now that Toyota is stuffing up in some areas. I'm a Toyota fan btw.
Ooops, double post, had a Steady Eddy moment.
i just bought a hyundai accent, after testing the micra, fiesta, barina, yaris, rio reborn…
it is by far the most value for money, and its up there in fuel efficiency and specs.. and doesn't look horrible interior wise
and the best thing about it is the engine is really responsive, and great acceleration for a 1.6L
my friend just bought a fiesta a month before me and is regretting it, there are gearshift issues and not as responsive!
just my view but hope it helps :)
Have you seen how badly Hyundai's devalue? They are practically disposable cars…
Have you seen how Hyundais have improved??
Their reputation has risen dramatically also.
I feel you may be referring to the very old excels?
Regardless, most cars depreciate like a brick now a days… the last 2 x 2y/o toyotas i purchased had dropped by around 60%!
What would you consider a non disposable car these days?? Please don't say your VL Commodore??
Well, I just tested and bought a 2011 Micra with 30km on the clock for $14k driveaway (from about $17.5k). Its the 1.5l, not the base 1.2l so its a bit nicer to drive. And my wife likes it (its small and manouverable with good visibility and easy to drive) so she's happy.
I know its not a prestigious car but I didn't really expect to be able to buy a 'new' car with 3 years warrenty and 3 years breakdown cover for just $14k. It should give me wife a few years of reliable trouble free motoring and does indeed make the Yaris look expensive.
Thanks to everyone for your input.
You did very well Nige.. saved $6k on what you had initially planned and the bigger motor as well!!
Well done :-)
+1, the bigger motor is always worth the little extra. Most of the time they are actually more economical coz they're not working as hard all the time…and thus will also have greater longevity! :)
don't people test drive cars any more? if you're buying any car, we're talking about a $15-$20k purchase (in this group)
surely if you didn't like the drive by wire feel of a certain car, why buy it?
you are stuck with the car for a while until you've had enough and want to upgrade
To be honest, I would look long & hard at the 2012 Yaris before I thought about one. We just got a couple in the fleet at work; the 2012 model is a significant step backward…it is most definitely not, & I repeat NOT up to the standard of the 2011 model. Cheap nasty interior, poor fit & finish, really basic feature-set…seriously, it's like getting back into a 20yo car; the retrograde really is that noticeable!
That kind of money will buy your wife a much nicer car in the same class (Fiesta for instance…IIRC there's a deal ATM that will even get you a manual Focus driveaway for $19,990 too!) with a hell of a lot more tech for your dough! Failing that, a bit of negotiation should get you close to an entry level Corolla with your budget if you wanna stick with Toyota! Get some good prices off www.carsales.com.au & throw them in your local dealer's face, stand your ground & watch them cave! :)