Had posted this before for this before but now Kogan have the US version for the same price (which, funnily enough, was the version I received even though it said "UK version" when I ordered it.) Normally $199.
Good deal for anyone looking for a well built ergo keyboard.
I have this one and logitech k860. Even though logitech provides more functionalities, this one is more comfortable to type on. It requires less force to press and better wrist angle.
I bought one from Kogan and it arrived with a faulty space bar. Got sent a replacement and it had the same problem!
geez they're hopeless
It more likely be a driver or keyboard setting.
See if you press "@".
I has the same issue
what kind of keyboard setting would disable the Space Bar?
I had the same thing happen. It's not software its the way the box is designed, the spacebar keys are the highest point on the keyboard and get smashed down during shipping. You can pop the key off and fix it with a bit of fiddling.
Yep it’s not the software, the right hand side part of the space stays pressed in. Exact same issue in both so I think froggivingthefinger is right it’s badly designed packaging.
I had the Sculpt before but the usb dongle stopped working. Thinking of getting the Logitech K860 now
The busted key setting 😂😂😂
Yikes - that's unlucky. Thankfully haven't had any issues with mine.
Exact same thing happened with me.
Let me guess, the right space bar for both keyboards?
It's hard to tell from the low-resolution images; are the Function Keys shared with Media keys, i.e. you have to switch between them?
Yes, the function and media keys are combined. However the Fn button on this keyboard works similar to a Caps Lock key (i.e Lights us and stays pressed if you use function keys very often)
How is this a neg?
Whimsical downvoters.
seriously WTH? No questions allowed?
Good keyboard but don’t last very long. Mine has been barely over a year and starts falling apart
Have had mine for ~3 years or more and it is still as good as the day I got it.
same here. lasted one year for me after which some keys are cracking/not responding.
I'm a lite user and have another keyboard for gaming
but the support was happy to replace mine within warranty tho.
My keys were getting stiff. I removed the keys and washed it with cotton bud and water. That fixed the issue for me.
That is strange as I use mine as a work keyboard so getting a lot of use. No worries at all…
I've seen the wrist bar on these grey ones show up dirt/sweat marks badly over time. If you're a clean freak that may be worth considering
This one is Dark grey so hoping it won't be too much of an issue :)
I have this keyboard, dirt/sweat marks were a problem for me. I've owned and loved at least one of every Microsoft ergo keyboard, and I just can't stand their wrist rests going bad (and newer versions seem to be worse for it).
After 15+ years of Microsoft ergo keyboards I've just bought a regular mechanical keyboard and am making my own wrist rest.
Bought two of these and neither can last long. Spend your money elsewhere
Can you elaborate on how it breaks? Thx
Warmonger version
People who own keyboard of this layout, does it take some getting used to if you switching between this and normal ones? Like, using this at home and normal ones in office?
Not really. It's almost the same with a standard keyboard so the switching should be pretty smooth.
Thanks!
I'm a proficient touch typist and have no trouble switching between the two. It's probably a good thing to be honest. I prefer these split ergo type boards though. I'd be more worried about whether it's UK or US layout (as another poster mentions).
Edit: deal is clearly for US layout and someone else's comment about ordering UK layout has disappeared so ignore my concern on that tbh
Thanks Mate!
Takes a few days to identify a comfortable wrist and arm position. My desk is a little high and the keyboard was initially a little uncomfortable to use due to the raised curve. However, fixed it by raising my chair so that my arms align to the keyboard better. Hope this helps.
P.S: Reread your comment - No issues in switching between this and my laptop keyboard. More issues when switching from my vertical mouse to a regular mouse.
With you on the vertical mouse - has been a game changer for me. Waiting for a deal on the Logitech one so I can upgrade from the cheapo generic one I'm rocking (perfectly good, just doesn't have a premium feel about it, and if you know me you'll know I'm all about premium).
Ah OK, do you know by any chance if that vertical mouse better than the mx master advanced?
It'll be a personal preference thing. But the difference of placing your wrist on the desk in the most natural position, versus the twist in your forearm to place your hand flat for a traditional mouse has made a big difference for me. I bought a $30 one to see how the change works for me before splurging on a better one.
@hotphil: LOL - did the same. Pc Byte have them on Sale for $128 if you're interested, could price beat at OW. Nowhere near the ATL of $98 but not a bad price for a great piece of kit:
https://www.pcbyte.com.au/p/logitech-mx-vertical-advanced-er…
@HealthHazard: I am tempted, but my usual mantra is bugging me - "never ever 1st gen ever". But I'm not sure Logitech will bring out a successor.
I think it actually depends a lot on how much "crossover" you do when you type - i.e. how often do you use the "wrong" hand to hit keys on the other side of the board.
If you're a fast typist (i.e. > 150 wpm or so), then you're likely crossing-over quite a fair bit. For example, if I were to type, I would type:
Even though V should be hit with my left index finger, it's a long distance to go from V to R, so it's a longer recovery…etc.
This would make it pretty difficult for me to type with this board. I'm sure I'll be fine, but a lot of the tricks I use to be fast will not be workable.
I consider myself a fast typist but I am well below 100 wpm. Are you sure about that figure (150 wpm)? It seems to be the world record:
What’s the world record? Believe it or not, it’s 150 words per minute, and that was measured over a sustained period.
No, the world record is 150 wpm including punctuation and other symbols (i.e. regular text). I can only hit around 120 under those conditions. I'm 140-150 if it's just words.
It's not hard to get faster, but it takes practice because most of it is muscle memory. I'll spend around 15-20 mins practicing every day and training words that I find difficult.
I would say it depends. I came from the MS Comfort Curve 2000 series to the non-Surface version of this keyboard. I thought it would be seamless but the grouping of the function keys - they are not separated from the number keys like usual, and they are not separated in their own groups of four.
If you're a heavy touch-feel user of function keys, you might struggle. I've been using it for almost a year and I still haven't gotten to proficiency with touch typing for function keys. I find it very frustrating.
I got one of the not-so-ergonomic ones in March last year and the letters from the home row started wearing off after a few months!
Similar story for me. Bought the black version about a year ago and the AWSD keys are fading badly. My wife uses the keyboard during the day for work and I'm a bit of a gamer (play a few hours a week) so gets a bit of use, but still a bit annoying that it's faded so quickly
These are terrible for playing 2-player Mortal Kombat. Player 1 has an unfair advantage of jutting their right elbow into Player 2’s ribs.
Get over here!
Razer should create an Ergonomic mechanical switch keyboard.
No doubt with RGBs…
Dang it I bought one of the regular MS ergonomic keyboards a month ago, and the return window on Amazon closed yesterday.
If you don't mind the cable there is a wired Microsoft ergonomic keyboard for $69 delivered.
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B084GFNHQC/
You get separate media and function keys as a bonus.
this is what I use. There's no equivalent wireless version that I can find, i.e. ergonomic with dedicated media keys.
Not really the same thing, I prefer the feeling of a membrane keyboard.
Bought one. Thanks op