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iDrive LiveTrack GPS Tracking Device $213.71 Delivered @ Sparesbox

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Baldrik on 28/07/2021 - 20:29 sparesbox.com.au (471 clicks)
Last edited 28/07/2021 - 22:47 by 1 other user

I was waiting for the best deal on this for a couple of months and ended up buying one from Repco on special but this deal is better and have not seen cheaper. You could use cashrewards or shopback for an even better bargain. My loss is your gain.

Small, advanced and simple to use GPS tracker
Comes prefitted with ALDI SIM card
Track multiple vehicles on the one app (Android and iOS)
No ongoing subscription fees
If you're looking for a compact, advanced and highly dependable GPS vehicle tracker, you've come to the right place! The EVC LiveTrack Stealth 3G GPS Tracker is the latest tool in the Ultimate9 (formerly iDrive) arsenal. The EVC (iDrive) LiveTrack GPS Tracker is a handy device which can be attached to any car, boat, trailer, motorbike, caravan or machinery - in essence, it can be used to track anything with a battery. Whether you're looking to prevent theft or to keep an eye on your loved ones in case they need assistance, the EVC LiveTrack GPS Tracker (LTGPS) is an indispensable tool for any vehicle owner.

EDIT: from mid June next year Google Maps will be charging for mapping services so the App developers will be charging for its use. Guessing this will affect many mapping services

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  • Loracks on 28/07/2021 - 20:39
    +2

    So this will work until 2024 when 3G is shut off?

    • Lps on 28/07/2021 - 20:40
      -1

      Is it not a typo? It can't really mean 3G, can it?

      • Loracks on 28/07/2021 - 20:45
        +2

        I looked into these for a caravan and most were expensive and old tech.
        Finally decided to use an old phone with an app installed and plugged into a charger (solar powered).

  • SlifSlif on 28/07/2021 - 20:58
    +16

    I work in the telematics industry, and just want to pass on my 2cents about this.

    TLDR- avoid this.

    1) It doesn’t actually list the bandwidths it uses. Which is a huge red flag - it means it’s using a cheaper modem module with a lower bandwidth signal.

    2) The big one - it utilises the 3G network - while not bad, it WILL be switched off eventually. Be wary of when 3G is being shut off.

    3) “No subscription model” covers software - you get what you pay for with software..

    4) “… the only cost is the data SIM Plan for the ALDI SIM card which amounts to approximately $15 a year even with the most frequent location updates! If you want to use a different network, simply replace and set up your SIM card of choice.” So you still need to pay for the sim card, and you’re also not getting the best network coverage, which means the device will be prone to black spots, and given number 1 - you’re almost guaranteed the modem won’t accept CATm1 (Telstra) network. It’s going to be hit and miss with reception for “Live Tracking”. It also doesn’t state if it store any data (for delayed tracking) when there is no reception, potentially you could lose tracking going rural areas where there’s no cell tower reception (happy to be proven wrong on this one).

    5) It looks like this has a harness it clips into which you solder (hardwire) the unit to a power supply. Some vehicles can be tricky and if you’re going through a firewall in larger trucks you’re not going to have a fun time. Hooking this up to a fuse box is not recommended either. Good chance you may need an auto electrician to install for vehicle warranty.

    All in all I would personally avoid this, no disrespect to the OP for finding a bargain but please be mindful when you get GPS tracking devices.

    If you’d like more info feel free to PM me :)

    • whitelie on 28/07/2021 - 21:14
      +1

      Thanks for the info. I've always been dubious about trackers in general. You don't want to find out it's useless when you actually need it.

      Are devices like this easily blocked by "professional" thieves?

      • SlifSlif on 28/07/2021 - 21:25

        Exactly.. and although those “features” are nice - like Geofences, etc there’s no real useful alerts like “low voltage”, “disconnection”, “driver behaviour” etc.

        Thieves is a tricky subject - without giving away info publicly here, there are things * (that are banned by the ACMA - from memory it’s $1mil+ fine and/or jail time to supply/sell them) that will always scramble and block gps satellite connections, rendering these useless. Out of my time in this industry we actually have never run into this issue, ever. Thieves usually don’t think to check for a tracking device. And these internal antenna devices can be installed in places* - completely out of sight.

        The real issue we run into are the jurisdictions of police intervention with recovering stolen vehicles, unfortunately. Tracking DEFINITELY helps, both proving the routes, where it’s kept and end recovery - but it’s a process and once the thieves are contacted by police they usually abuse, dump it and run.

    • Baldrik on 28/07/2021 - 22:44
      +2

      Thought I would help you out and ask a couple of questions.

      1) Telstra 3G network will be shut down June 2024, currently covers more of Australia than 4G and 5G
      2) Why is low bandwith signal an issue whe the data requirements are for GPS polling and transmitting this data only?
      3) SIM card is included and $15 dollars a year for Telstra network https://www.aldimobile.com.au/pages/coverage/ Can you please let me know which network or service offers the least blackspots and the best coverage?
      4) Coverage IS by cellular network. I respectfully ask what are the alternatives for transmitting location data from your vehicle back to your phone?
      5) Being an average DIY guy and having installed dashcams, rear cameras, UHF radios, and now the GPS tracker in 4 different vehicles (Ford, Toyota, Landrover and Mitsubishi) The installation was the easiest device by far. No you don't need an auto electrician but if you did it would take less than an hour. (45 min for me taking my time).
      5) The device stores data whilst out of coverage.

      I will edit the post to reflect that from mid June next year Google Maps will be charging for mapping services so the App developers will be charging for its use. Guessing this will affect many mapping services

      Thanks for your input.

      /

      • SlifSlif on 28/07/2021 - 22:49

        Before I answer.. These are quite specific questions to answer for someone posting a deal without an affiliation to the shop - are you just a knowledgeable consumer or do you have an affiliation with product knowledge?

        • Baldrik on 28/07/2021 - 23:00

          Just average, I did a heap of research on this. Having bought an expensive secondhand 4WD that I will get almost nothing back if stolen, I would like give myself the best chance of getting it back if it is stolen. It is an Australian company not that it means that much. No, I cannot afford the $200 + dollars a year with subscription service. So to help everyone else I thought you could answer these questions as they are not just limited to this device. Your answers will help others decide on this type of device and perhaps you could offer a better alternative.

          Cheers

          • SlifSlif on 28/07/2021 - 23:13

            @Baldrik: So I had a hunch you were just an informed consumer so I already wrote out my response to your questions below haha.

            1) Telstra 3G network will be shut down June 2024, currently covers more of Australia than 4G and 5G

            Correct. This is a bad ROI for only 2 years use then an expensive paperweight. You could always churn to other SIM providers but 3G in general has a sunset date.

            2) Why is low bandwith signal an issue whe the data requirements are for GPS polling and transmitting this data only?

            The fact it doesn’t state the technical specs means there’s a high chance you’re getting a lower quality modem chip.

            3) SIM card is included and $15 dollars a year for Telstra network https://www.aldimobile.com.au/pages/coverage/ Can you please let me know which network or service offers the least blackspots and the best coverage?

            I’ll be completely honest here, wasn’t 100% sure on the back haul use of ALDI mobile - but seeing as they’re still a reseller they won’t have access to the full network. I’d still be suspect to areas where the cheap modem chip coupled with a reseller network will be able to connect with.

            4) Coverage IS by cellular network. I respectfully ask what are the alternatives for transmitting location data from your vehicle back to your phone?

            May have misunderstood this, or perhaps I wasn’t clear on this point - Location is calculated by GPS Satellite trilateration and position is sent to a receiving server by GPRS (mobile connection), then it updates on the software platform. Black spots I was referring to was the mobile network having delayed data thus your location won’t update in real time but only when it reconnects to the network.

            5) Being an average DIY guy and having installed dashcams, rear cameras, UHF radios, and now the GPS tracker in 4 different vehicles (Ford, Toyota, Landrover and Mitsubishi) The installation was the easiest device by far. No you don't need an auto electrician but if you did it would take less than an hour. (45 min for me taking my time).

            Absolutely possible to DIY. We have had plenty of our clients do it themselves, ruin shit, and blame it on the device - once we get one our installers out as an act of good will, we find they tap into the most ridiculous places: back of steroes, fuse boxes etc. that’s when we charge them the call out fee as our instructions are pretty clear where and how to connect them to constant power (battery).

            5) The device stores data whilst out of coverage.

            I believe you. In which case my point 4 is moot, but it also doesn’t state that anywhere on the website.

            ~
            I totally get where you’re coming from in terms of expense. These tracking devices are primarily used for B2B as companies can claim back on either FBT, FTC and they can check on fuel thieves with their fuel card system.

            Bohdans below actually has an extremely enticing setup, however we offer a consumer access plan that is maybe only $120 more for the device to keep, which includes 3 year back to base warranty and have similar monthly access. Only difference is we have built up our software platform here in Australia without a white label software, so locally run servers and full stack development and Australian support both hardware and software.

            Edit: I missed your better alternative question - honestly bohdans response below is on point. You’re looking for a well priced 4g tracker with a good IoT SIM card provider. However if you don’t have time for that there are companies that offer the same solution for a little bit extra if your time is more important than messing around with white label software, IP addresses and commands to relay data to the server. Just gotta do a bit of googling and find something that fits your budget.

            • Baldrik on 29/07/2021 - 01:24
              +1

              @SlifSlif: Thanks for the reply. I am comfortable with the $250 ($10 Aldi per year) or so for the 3 year run. Its less than one years dosh for the other alternatives and can reassess in 3 years time. Perhaps you could let others know what your total cost of your service is over a full 3 year period as a comparison. I don't have the expertise to set up servers, program apps, become a DIY Sysadmin so I will just settle for a simple setup.

              • SlifSlif on 29/07/2021 - 02:03

                @Baldrik: And that's totally fine - we would do everything for you. You'll receive your login info via email, we have a plug n play (so you can easily swap vehicles) or hardwire device, both the same price. We also sell a concealment cable that you can exchange your obd2 port and hide the device up in the dashboard. Nobody would know the difference looking for it.

                We offer $199 device with $12 per month subscription. We usually run promos and I've already had a few people inbox me interested in our product - as I've told others, I'll see what I can do - there's definitely interest here. Btw - price includes Sim, Software (web-base and mobile (ios/android).

                Once you've paid for the device, it's less than a 50 cent coin per day knowing everything about your vehicle - location, report, geofences, live location etc.

                edit: also, my bad for taking over your post here..

    • cakesyy on 29/07/2021 - 07:25
      -1

      "The big one - it utilises the 3G network - while not bad, it WILL be switched off eventually. Be wary of when 3G is being shut off."

      Every net work gets shut off eventually. The problem is 3g is the next one to be shut off.

      And every tracker requires a yearly sim fee. There is no way around that. You are living in a fantasy world.

      • SlifSlif on 29/07/2021 - 08:02

        .. Yes, that’s my point - with the current bundled sim this device will no longer work after 2 years, then when you churn to a new sim provider it will only be a short matter of time before it no longer works as well. You’re better off looking for a 4G compatible device to better future proof.

        No fantasy world living here.. it’s expected that a data sim to transfer and update location will cost..

    • cakesyy on 29/07/2021 - 08:31

      How do you get that $15 a year aldi sim??

  • jimmytuan on 28/07/2021 - 21:28

    Been running my Black Knight Tracker for the last couple of years now. I highly recommend their trackers.

  • internet-stranger on 28/07/2021 - 21:31
    +2

    I can recommend this tracker:
    AU $71.72 15％ Off | 4G GPS Tracker Car LTE CAT M1 NB-lot Cut Off Oil Collision Alarm Car Tracker Overspeed Alarm Waterproof GPS Locator Free APP
    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKWTvib

    It’s CAT M1 so you use the IoT sims.
    https://www.m2mone.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/M2M-One…

    Using that tracker and SIM I can track my car in a basement car park where my mobile has no reception.

    I run my own TracCar server, so can’t comment on the supplied app.

    • SlifSlif on 28/07/2021 - 21:46

      How much is that costing you per month to manage?

    • SickDmith on 28/07/2021 - 21:48

      How much data does it consume? (in other words, any advice on plan?)

      • internet-stranger on 28/07/2021 - 22:01

        I am on 10mb plan and reach 90% usage at the end of the month.

    • undocked838 on 28/07/2021 - 22:24

      Is installation of that unit difficult? Reviews and Q&A indicate there's no manual supplied with it. Did you buy the relay/SOS version?

      • internet-stranger on 29/07/2021 - 13:23
        +1

        Installation was easy, + - and ACC was all I hooked up. I got SOS version and its just a button the plugs into the unit.

  • internet-stranger on 28/07/2021 - 22:00

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  • ECE on 29/07/2021 - 09:08

    Works like airtag and tile 😷

  • guzzybrah92 on 29/07/2021 - 11:44

    Hey Guys,

    What do you think of something like this??

    https://thespystore.com.au/products/4g-hardwired-car-gps-tra…

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