LG OLED Vs Samsung Neo QLED

LDilemma on 17/07/2021 - 14:09

The overall consensus is definitely that the OLED TV from LG is better than the corresponding Samsung NeoQLED TV - at least in a dark theatre room where brightness isn’t that much of a downside.

(E.g. a LG G1 > Samsung QN90A)

But my dilemma occurs because I’m able to get Samsung TVs at significant discounts.

So, based on current prices for LG and the special pricing from Samsung, I wanted to know if the difference in price is significant enough to just get the Samsung.

Prices for the LG are (today at least);

  • 77 inch LG C1 - $5596 (JB)
  • 77 inch LG G1 - $6396 (JB)

Prices for the Samsung are;

  • 75 inch Samsung QN90A - $3200
  • 75 inch Samsung QN700A - $3500
  • 85 inch Samsung QN800A - $5250
  • 75 inch Samsung QN900A - $5250

I’m leaning towards the QN800A purely cause of its availability in 85 inches and the one connect box.

Would just like to hear some other opinions before I take the plunge.

Thanks :)

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Comments

  • Hybroid on 17/07/2021 - 14:11
    +7

    https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c1-oled

    https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn800a-8k-qled

    All you need to know to make an informed decision.

    • Dilemma on 17/07/2021 - 16:39

      Rtings is really comprehensive! Thank you for the resource.

  • WildWarrior on 17/07/2021 - 14:56
    +2

    I’ve done severe comparison between both, and my living room is quite bright with unblockable light - so I’ll be choosing QN90A. Just waiting for the new Qantas card to come in before purchase. QN90A manages and combats bright rooms far better.

    QN90A also only has 1x HDMI2.1 port, however there is a Samsung Slim One Connect box that is currently only bundled with a few of the 2021 line. I plan to buy one when it becomes more readily available. For the time being I only need the 1 port for my PS5. But worth knowing if that’s part of your decision.

    That is a serious saving on the 75”! If you feel like helping a fellow OzBargainer out, slide into my DM’s good friend!

    Edit: also comparing the Samsung panels. QN90A stands out beyond the others. An 85” QN90A would be perfect, but I think it’s only available in the US.

    • Dilemma on 17/07/2021 - 16:38
      +1

      I’m able to get these discounts through a family member who works for Samsung. He’s only allowed one tv per year unfortunately (he says it’s cause staff abused the system and used to buy it through the staff portal and sell it second hand).

    • Dilemma on 17/07/2021 - 16:42

      Oh also, yeh I’m leaning towards the QN800A over QN90A kind of due to the one connect box. Considering I’m gonna wall mount it, just seems sensible to get it for convenience.

      I think the 8k probably isn’t worth the premium normally but since they’re almost the same price, the 3 extra hdmi 2.1 ports and the box sell it.

  • chew_chew on 17/07/2021 - 14:57

    That's a really good price for the qn800a. How do U access Samsung special pricing?

    rtings seems to suggest the qn90a might be better despite lower resolution

    https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/samsung-qn90a-qled-v…

    • Dilemma on 17/07/2021 - 16:35
      +1

      My brother gets staff discounts from Samsung. Though he's limited to one tv a year and he got one last year. So he’s nice enough to offer me one this year 😃

  • serpserpserp on 17/07/2021 - 15:54
    +5

    I dunno why people try and argue QLED or some other LED is better than LG OLEDs. There are only two real factors (not including 8k) that factor into this, if you have a really really sunny room (or want a TV in a semi outdoor area and you want to save money, you don't get the OLED.

    If you have money to burn and brightness of viewing area isn't a problem, get the OLED.

  • bcarp on 17/07/2021 - 16:07
    +4

    The operating system may also be a selling point, although probably not worth thousands of dollars. When the prices were line ball for me a few years ago, I went with LG primarily because of the operating system.

    • Dilemma on 17/07/2021 - 16:44

      That’s a good point as well. Apparently the latest versions of both OS’s have ads now. Kinda annoyed that we pay so much for the premium sets and they still give us ads.

      Are the ads noticeable on the LG?

      • bcarp on 17/07/2021 - 17:24
        +1

        No ads in my 2017 model year. I love the webOS and generally dislike Android, so LG won me over. (I have a soft spot for webOS, having used its predecessors right back to PalmPilot times in the 1990s.)

  • Kelvin H. on 17/07/2021 - 17:37
    +2

    I was in the exact same situation a few days ago - my mate also works at Samsung.
    I actually went and had a look at both TVs at TGG. The environment wasn't ideal but it was immediately noticeable that the QN90A was brighter which would make sense in an environment that was well lit.
    Another thing I noticed was Tizen OS on the Samsung appeared smoother too. LG did a makeover for WebOS 6 and IMO, it's a regression from WebOS 5. Not a fan of the full screen home page and the animations were also not smooth when opening applications. Much prefer the look and feel of WebOS 5 but I'm going to be plugging in an NVIDIA Shield so it didn't bother me too much.
    Coming from a Q75R, I think I would've been happy with the QN90A but I ended up with the G1 77".
    TGG allowed me to play some content on both TVs and to me, the image stood out more on the OLED. The details in dark spots were apparent on closer inspection and there was a bit more depth to the image? It's hard to explain but if you watch them side-by-side, it's apparent.
    The additional brightness and cost wasn't as much of a factor as the picture quality for me. No doubt, the QN90A is an amazing unit, but there was something about the picture on the OLED that I couldn't dismiss.
    If you don't mind the additional cost, and don't need the additional brightness - I'd say get either OLEDs.

    Alternatively, there's the 85" QN85A which uses a VA panel like the QN90A, unlike the rest of the QN85A line which uses an IPS panel and from reports, performs more similarly to the QN90A.

    • Dilemma on 23/07/2021 - 09:38

      Thank you for your response. It’s definitely helped me. I think, with the c1 also coming out in 83”, might lean the way of the c1 HAHA.

      Do you think it not having HDR10+ is a loss (and vice verse for Dolby vision with the Samsung)? I kinda find it ridiculous they couldn’t add both.

      • Kelvin H. on 23/07/2021 - 12:14

        I can't comment on which is better than the other as my content is mostly HDR10 (not HDR10+).
        Both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ do dynamic metadata however DV has been around a bit longer so I'd expect there to be more available content and more streaming services to support it - Netflix does HDR10 and Dolby Vision but not HDR10+.

    • Masterscas on 26/07/2021 - 01:15

      The Australian version of the QN90a is an IPS/ADS panel as well. So if you like that I'm sure the 85a looks very much the same but slightly less bright.

  • Lion007 on 17/07/2021 - 20:27
    +2

    I can give you a really good honest review based on what my requirements were. I did all the research, went all over RTINGS, watched YouTube videos, and all the rest. It's information overload, and honestly at the end of the day this is what made my decision. I bought an LG C1, wasn't overall happy with HDR pop and brightness, went and got a QN90A.

    • LG C1: Great in a dark room, but brightness is low. If you want HDR to pop, it doesn't really pop much. Also, black crush is evident. Image quality - amazing.
      -QN90A: Great in a bright room, and dark room performance is nearly the same as OLED. Half the time it is the same. You can't tell the difference. MiniLED does an amazing job. The only time you may notice it is if there is an image on the screen and it's completely black all around, there might be slight blooming. But, bear in mind this TV gets really bright - this means, HDR pops. Colour volume unlike OLEDs, doesn't decrease with brightness. No burn in worries, keep the TV for 10 years easy, leave static content running.

    I have a Series X console. LG: Dolby Vision. Samsung - no Dolby Vision. When I Connected my console to both, could I notice the difference? No. I also didn't need to worry about burn in over a long period of time, so could pump up the brightness to really make HDR games pop.

    Overall you can't go wrong with either TV, everyone has a preference and the image is slightly different on both - at the end of the day, you're getting amazing picture quality from both sets, what you want from it and what you enjoy more is what will sway your decision :-)

  • SM1LE on 20/07/2021 - 14:00
    +2

    Just my two cents, a big fan of Samsung, they have wonderful designed TVs but I would never pick a Samsung QLED over a LG OLED .. fundamentally QLEDs are just LED-backlit LCD televisions. If I was in your boots I would go for the LG C1. Bloody amazing TV, but it comes down to what your needs are, and since you are forking out that much I demand to have the latest technology.. and trust me LG is killing the game. In the grapevine rumor has it that Samsung will make be using OLED panels from LG in the future……..

  • poopy on 20/07/2021 - 16:06
    +1

    I have both models - LG c1 55" and a Samsung qn90a 50". Short answer: get the QN90a !!

    For the 2021 Samsung TVs, only consider the QN90a models, since they compete best with lg's oled TVs in terms of contrast. The brightness is perfect and has excellent black handling, comparable to oled.

    I liked the LG c1 but…it's just too dark for me, even in a pitch dark room. HDR 4k looks wonderful, but SDR content looked drab and kind of pathetic. the games I tried looked like it was playing in dusk time. My gaming monitor was much brighter in comparison, and they always have lower brightness (nits) than TVs. Perhaps my eyes love being seared by the brightness only QLed delivers

    Use the rtings website to compare the nits, and you'll see the difference.

    The qn90a is too expensive though, so wait for a discount.

    Finally, I find LG oleds have a disturbing cult like following.

    • roonie on 20/07/2021 - 18:48

      What do you see as the advantage/s of a qn90a over a qn85a? (I’ve visited rtings)

      • poopy on 21/07/2021 - 12:07
        +1

        QN90a has a VA panel, whilst the QN85a has the ADS/IPS panel (I think one size has a VA, not sure). All the premium and most midrange LED TVs tend to use VA
        IPS is generally frowned upon in the 4K tv community because of the poor black levels (IPS cannot do black, looks greyish) compared to the higher contrast of VA panels
        IPS does have a larger viewing angle though.

  • Misha101 on 21/07/2021 - 15:32

    Long shot but is this Samsung pricing able to be price matched? We would love the QN90A but the pricing is way too high at JB/TGG.

    • Dilemma on 23/07/2021 - 09:34

      I doubt it as it’s a discount you need to access through their staff portal.

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