Found this on ebay. Good deal with additional 10 dollar off with afterpay.
Delivery fee from $10.
Limited stock.
Found this on ebay. Good deal with additional 10 dollar off with afterpay.
Delivery fee from $10.
Limited stock.
noob question. is it worth doing? like, comes with much better quality compare to what you can buy from bakery or supermarket.
Keen to know this too.
Effort vs price vs supermarket quality
It's amazing. Easy as shit to make, the timer is awesome. Highly recommend. No knowledge of bread making or cooking required (if I can do it you can too).
@b2dz: It's great for making cakes too. I just throw all the ingredients into the pan and let the machine do the mixing and baking in one go.
I use a cake mix from the supermarket, add an egg and water. Out comes a freshly baked cake 45 minutes later.
@scottishdave: ah man that sounds awesome. i actually haven't tried that yet. i'll have to check that one out.
I got a Panasonic one recently and we love it. We make a white loaf and a raisin loaf every week.
It is really easy to use, just use bakers flour any time a recipe calls from bread flour and you're gold.
Important thing is to weight the ingredients, and use your own measuring spoons for TSP and TSB measurements.
You can also use the bread mix ones too. I think the brand is Laucke. When the Laucke crusty flour mix is on special, the loaf works out to about $2.
I haven't worked out how much it costs to make a fresh white from the Panasonic recipe.
like, comes with much better quality compare to what you can buy from bakery or supermarket.
only if you buy the correct type of flour and use fresh yeast…
Or keep the yeast in the fridge, lasts for months.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/262665/lig…
We use this one for pizza dough with an old Panasonic bread maker, can confirm is awesome.
@nismo: Yep…
If you have a local Mediterranean deli nearby, you can often buy something similar in bulk for a lot cheaper…
@nismo: I get Manildra Pizza Flour from my local wholesaler. 12KG $15, they also have 00 flour for $16.50.
@BlinkyBill: Sounds good, but we aren't running a pizza shop here lol. We maybe have 1 or 2 home made pizzas a month!
Light users here
And I didn't mention, we actually buy the woolies one when on special, of course!
I'm just using the cheap plain white flour from Aldi and yeast in a tin from Coles, I think. It's good. I came from a Sunbeam and the same recipe, just changing to this Panasonic made a difference. Will be tuning the recipe for more fluffiness using bread improver and it should get even better.
Nothing beats bread with some dried cherries and dark chocolate chips in it. Goes so nicely with some scotch after dinner!
IMHO there is nothing better than freshly made bread. Obviously buying it from the supermarket is always going to be more convenient. You still need to spend time buying and adding all the ingredients but this makes delicious bread and dough for dumplings, pizza bases etc. Plus, unlike supermarket bread you know exactly what you put in the recipe (and into your body)
Supermarkets have ingredients labels. There's nothing fishy or exotic that goes into your fresh bread. (The prepacked breads might have other stuff in it)
They make in bulk offsite and refrigerate for budget loafs, make from flour in-house for the more premium, then and chuck it in the oven at 3am which takes it through auto proofing then bake. Fresh bread if you can wake up at 5.30~6. Still warm when we used to put it in the packets few years ago.
You wouldn't buy this for saving money.
@plague69: Yeah, I know how supermarkets make bread … but thanks anyway. I don't use a breadmaker to save money - anyone who claims they save money is kidding themsleves. I use a breadmaker to make fresh bread that I can eat while still warm (supermarket bread might be warm at 6am champ, but it ain't warm by the time I get there!) and I use it because I can adjust the recipe to eliminate the ingredients that don't agree with me (in my case soy and bread improver, which are in a lot of supermaket bread recipes).
its nice to wake up to fresh bread in the morning… Supermarket bread is still easier…
I don't live anywhere near a supermarket (15 mins drive) so it works well for me.. I don't eat much bread.. we mainly use it when we have guests over.
It is easy to make, but there is still effort of combining the ingredients…
Its a hell of a lot easier to make than the sourdough that I made the other day.
I wouldn't bother if you're happy with supermarket bread and its closeby.
So I dont have to prepare the dough? It does it all?
@Aap Ke Papa: That's right, just pop in the ingredients, select the program and the machine does it all. Pro tip. put the liquid ingredients in first, then mix up the dry ingredients on a separate bowl (minus the yeast) then pour them on top of the wet ingredients (dont mix them) then put your yeast on top of the whole lot (again, don't mix it in). Some people make the mistake of letting the yeast get mixed in too early and end up with bricks. IANAB
@EightImmortals: Most breadmakers I've used in the past advise this to put the ingredients in a certain order - water first, then yeast last. And when you put the yeast in, make a little 'bowl' shape in the flour mixture at the top for the yeast to sit in and not go down near the water.
This is more important if you're putting it on a delay start.
@EightImmortals: Why not go with the advice in the instruction manual: yeast first, flour next, water on top?
@sumyungguy: Then you have a chance of the water leaking down and ruining the yeast before it's ready to start a cycle.
@Aap Ke Papa: This Panasonic does it all. Dump everything in and it even allows it to equilibrate to the right temperature. Better than my previous breadmaker in this respect.
Not just the bread but the smell of fresh bread when you open the bedroom door is amazing.
I have the same bread maker and love it. Use it to make banana bread too.
@eciuj: wow what is your banana bread recipe?
The smell of a freshly baked loaf is awesome! but keep in mind a loaf out of this machine is prob about 1/2 the size of a store bought one. Think about how many slices you need per day, also remember that this wont keep as long either having no preservatives.
I think this is more of a lifestyle product, as in you like the idea of baking your own bread. The ROI on making your own bread is going to be pretty long once you factor machine cost and raw materials cost. Also slicing the thing is also an art…
Actually, your comment reminds me that another benefit if making your own bread is that you can slide it any way you like - great if you like thick, warm slices of freshly made bread with butter and jam.
Put it in the fridge after the first 4 hours when its baked and cooled down.
Microwave the slice for 15 seconds when you want to eat it. It will taste just as good as when it first came out of the machine, fluffy and soft.
The bread lasts up to a week in the fridge.
I have the SD-SB2512 model. You cant beat fresh bread thats made with good flour. The flour makes a big difference.
Use this flour, set the machine to finish the loaf as you wake up. Let it rest for 15 mins. Enjoy…
A good bread machine that is halfway between the Singer bread machine and this Panasonic is this one from Kmart which I have and it's very good at $69.
https://www.kmart.com.au/product/bread-maker---black/3371319
I've been using this for years. I love it and it makes great bread. I've also used it to make dough when I need it for other uses than a loaf of bread.
I've also used it to make dough when I need it for other uses than a loaf of bread.
I use the bread maker for pizza dough, more that I use it to make bread…
We have an old Breville that is still going strong after almost 20 years.
hey mine just dies after 22 years!! thats why i am looking here for a new one lol
Hi can anyone please answer this
Is the home made breads goes off(mould) similar to supermarket bought ones?
How many days will the bread will be edible(safe to consume) if not kept in freezer
I don't use any preservatives in mind and I get 2-3 days. But you can choose the size of loaf to make (it has three size settings) and you just put in the flour based on the recipe amount that is included in the book. So easy. I'm an average cook but I love making bread with this machine and it consistently turns out awesome.
Homemade bread does not last as long due to not having preservatives. I would say 2-3 days but we always eat it within a day because it is best freshly made.
Is the home made breads goes off(mould) similar to supermarket bought ones?
The home made bread goes stale more quickly, and freshly made bread doesn't last long around our place anyway…
We've never had it go mouldy, but the most we've kept it for would 3-4 days.
that's the most normal, useful reply I've ever seen you post!
but it's not as entertaining as the others
Thanks JV,
Occasionally I tend to forget about the bread.
So i store them in Freezer just to be on a safer side.
A simple bread won't last long - you can get more shelf life by keeping it covered, dry, refrigerated (or slice it just after cooling and freeze them - so easy to defrost a slices or two in a toaster).
Sourdough bread, on the other hand, is going to last longer, due to its natural acidity and probably a tonne of science I'm not aware of.
Thank you everyone for taking time to answer my queries :)
I find home made bread only really tastes nice when it's fresh. So we normally always freeze it. Next time we want to eat it, we put it in the oven (unsliced, cut side down and crust up; keeps it from drying and ensures crust becomes crunchy again). After that, it is as if it was freshly baked.
Anyone have experience with this model?
I've had one of these pretty much since it launched, and i've never had a problem with it. It's on my list of things I would go out and replace immediately if it died because I use it so much. Highly recommended!
We were gifted one of these prior to Covid happening, and I have to say it was surprising.
I still love the smell of freshly baked bread
I know you're supposed to wait when its finished baking, but I get impatient and it is awesome when still steaming hot on inside.
You just chuck the ingredients in, turn it on, enter settings/timer, and walk away. It does everything else for you.
We have one for many years. Proper workhorse and still works like new( breads, pizzas etc)
Banana bread / lockdown vibes
This is the highest rated bread maker by Choice - 88%.
I picked one up. It's meant to be a very large appliance though.
This should be the top answer here - if it's good enough for Choice, it's good enough for me.
I have one from ALDI, wife used a few times and now in the garage, is Panasonic really better?
I've used an Aldi one before and it's been pretty good. What reason did you stop using it? Just got bored or lazy? Or the product had faults?
Just a bit lazy and took quite long to make a small loaf, only fresh if you can finish the bread on the same day not good for next day.
A Panasonic model won't help you with that, it's as good sitting in the garage…
@pizzaguy: Yeah, I think the ALDI one is OK, may need to find a easier way to make bread before go to sleep and just leave it overnight.
Any suggestion?
@superforever: I've always thought there's nothing easier than putting a store-bought bread mix, adding water to it and leaving in the programmed machine overnight. With a timer. Like, it's even easier to go to the store in the morning :)
Isn't it the process for the ALDI machine too?
nothing easier than putting a store-bought bread mix, adding water to it and leaving in the programmed machine overnight.
Thanks, let me check out store-bought bread mix.
@superforever: The Panasonic one has a timer where you set how long until it finishes rather than when it starts. So if you put 12 hours it'll finish in 12 hours time.
Both white and 50/50 wholemeal finish in about 4 or 5 hours.
There is an express option. But I've never used it.
Just found out that the one I have not from ALDI, it is Bellini bread maker from Target.
We have returned the ALDI one if I remember it correctly.
Can someone explain, does this machine only make the bread like sandwich loaf style from Coles/Woolies or does it do the other types of bread from bakeries like sourdough, foccacia, turkish? I see some people have said they use it to make pizza dough but I don't make pizza often enough to justify this so trying to think of other things it can make that will replace things I normally buy.
The machine can make sourdough loaf too, but you need to make the starter 1st which takes 24 hours.
For the other stuff, I think you can use the machine to prepare the dough, but then you'd need to cook it in your own oven.
See if you can find the instruction manual via panasonic website or google, it's got heaps of recipes and stuff.
Doesn't make sourdough (no automated machine can - AFAIK), but I do recommend Laucke Ciabatta mix - which requires hand-shaping and baking in your oven. Sadly the Sweet Bread and Bun mix appears no longer available. It can make jam if you're into that?
We use it for bread, pizza dough, dumpling dough, hot cross bun dought, etc. It will pretty much handle any kind of dough but obviously some recipes you need to finish off in an oven.
Thanks all for that. I've always wondered about buying one as the idea of fresh bread is appealing but unfortunately I don't think it'll pass my appliance test to take up the pantry space since I'm too lazy to use it to prepare dough and then use the oven on top. A trip down the road to the local bakery once every 1-2 weeks will have to suffice for now. I have a pasta/noodle machine that can also knead dough and given my bread eating needs, probably not the right machine.
Just in case I was not clear - if you want to make a fresh loaf of bread this machine will do it all. You only need the oven if you are doing rolls, buns, pizzas, etc.
just for making the dough, is it better than a stand mixer?
I would say no if your stand mixer has a dough hook.
These have a small paddle in the bottom.
I bought an old Panasonic bread maker for 20$ of marketplace. These things are amazing and will last a lifetime. It takes 2-3 minutes to put all the stuff in and wake up in the morning to a bakery smell. Also great shortcut to making pizza dough and burger buns.
Best bread maker. I would buy if I didn’t have the older model already.
$30 delivery to regional VIC on ebay, $10 delivery on TGG website.
To all you guys who have this, where do you get your flour and approx how much per kilo should I expect to pay?
Damn. Been hanging out for months on a good deal but gave up and bit the bullet at $239 Good Guys just recently. Excellent breadmaker, No. 1 on Choice as stated, which is why I wanted it.
Been baking with the Lauke packs from the supermarket, which is 2kg of flour (4 loaves) with yeast for around $9-10 depending on specials. That's around $2.50 for a big, delicious loaf. My only problem is the loaves are too big for the bread maker, or rather too tall, which makes them difficult to cut. I'm experimenting right now by making the dough in the breadmaker, halving it, and baking one loaf in the oven. A bit messy halving the risen dough, but the results look fantastic.
Scored another 10 dollar after collecting the order.
TGG send a sms saying access invoice thru the given link to get 10 in store credit (spend in 30days)
Big win for today.
I bought it few weeks ago. Used it five times so far… trying to get it right with flour from Woolworths.
No success so far. Followed the instructions to the dot. However looks like I am missing that experience of making good bread. Bread for me is still sticky in the middle and does not feel same as bought from shops.
I tried wholemeal and also whole grains flour.
I guess I will have to keep trying for few nights before giving up. One day it will come out well and I can impress my wife. No luck so far.
We've had 2 of this exact model. In both cases, the bread pan started to lose its non stick coating. We make a new loaf pretty much every day, so the first unit paid for itself, so we bought a new one and changed the cleaning routine a bit in the hope that it wouldn't happen again. When the 2nd unit met the same fate, we swore off buying any more Panasonic bread makers as replacement pans cost almost as much as the whole breadmaker.
We've switched to a Breville unit which was a bit more expensive but at least the spare parts are reasonably priced.
That is odd. We have not had this problem with ours but we don't use it nearly as much as that … maybe once only once week! We have had ours for almost 10 years and the pan is good as new so will be interesting to see whether the coating wears out eventually. We handwash ours with warm water only.
A lot of people bought these at start of Covid, so easy to find a hardly used one on FB marketplace under $50
Hmm probably if successful with lowball offer, otherwise I could only find it around 150.
Couldn't find any near me… :(
I only have experience with that super cheap bread maker on here a while back (the one with the pods) and this one. I thought the cheaper made decent bread with the hacked recipes, but this Panasonic is so much better and is a great machine in general.
Just down to whether the price works for you.