HI Guys, I have just moved to Brisbane. I am planning to buy a small size SUV, and am now picking between the Renault Captur and Volvo XC40.
Car functions aside, I wonder whether their service dealers in QLD area are doing good jobs in post-sale services?
Thanks.
Yoda
[QLD] Choice of Compact SUV Renault Captur Vs Volvo XC40
Lcloudyoda on 10/07/2021 - 23:56
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Mmmm…
Volvo XC40 was the COTY 2 years ago.
Previous winners include such automotive champions as:
The Morris 1100, Holden Camira, Mitsubishi Nimbus, Renault 12, Magna, & the Leyland P76.
While they may not all be bad cars, they all had faults and dramas that manifested during ownership.
The reality is that an award given to a new car does not provide any guarantee of reliability, resale or owner satisfaction.
It really should be renamed “Advertising Revenues Biggest Contributor Award”.
exactly!
Leyland P76.
Wash your mouth out with soap.
I sold them brand new. Fantastic in a V8 auto.
The difficulty was putting all the bits back on that fell off during the test drive.
Wish I had one now, though.
Found a P76 cigarette lighter going through some old stuff in the shed.
Probably a good start?
People still believe those "car of year" things?
BMW X5 was 4wd of the year once…
every competition lost any credibility since then (not that they had any for 30 odd years before that).The BMW X5 is a great car (provided it's under warranty).
@pharkurnell: No one said it was a 4wd. Its useless offroad. But on road it's great, and it's great value for money. Its luxurious, fast, fuel efficient, comfortable, roomy, can tow 3500kg easily, and it costs $30k less than the equivalent 5 series sedan. It also handles really well for an SUV. My mum used to have an original X5 back when they first came out in the early 2000s, and has a current X3 now. Great cars for the purpose. Just don't expect them to do things they weren't designed to do. I'm pretty sure they do both have hill decent control though, lol.
No one said it was a 4wd
The now extinct Aussie 4wd Magazine - Overlander (from memory) gave it 4wd (4 wheel drive) of the year several years ago.
Nobody honestly believes those tests do they?
@pharkurnell: Oh, no I agree, Australian motoring press is generally trash. Maybe with the exception of Paul Maric, who tends to call a spade a spade.
Both Toyota and Mazda make and are boring cars for boring people.
Exactly… You miss out on all the excitement of wondering what piece of garbage will fail next, leave you stranded and cost a motza to fix.
Ohhh the excitement of it all…If you buy in warranty, and sell while out of warranty you don't have to worry about that.
I love wondering how much a service might cost due to a rogue euro part has broken
Hang on tight. It’s going to be a bumpy ride considering Euro vehicles on this forum.
I’ll put popcorn on.
I can sense that ….
A French car or a Chinese car. And I think we all know how people feel about those. Blink 3 times if you are being forced to make this decision…
Is the captur proper French or a Nissan in disguise? I keep losing track.
It's made in Brazil, Russia or India… So, probably none of the above, but I am guessing Nissan has a finger in the dirty little pie somewhere…
Nissan having their finger in the pie is a good thing. Nissan having their whole arm up its rectum is even better.
The Captur is fine due to the fact it has Nissan underpinnings. But you're better off with the Nissan original (Qashkai?)
Dont buy a Volvo. Ever.
My vote … Captur
May I know why?
I prefer Renaults over Volvos.
Lol… I will go Volvo, then.
As you are going to burn your money, go for an AMG or BMW if you go for an Euro brand. This is the OzB way.
I'm surprised the Audi Q2 and VW T-Cross didn't make it onto this list… And considering that OP wants a Chinese car, why not consider MG or Haval…
What’s the issue with cars being assembled in China? Does the brand & quality control not matter?
Many car brands assemble their cars from countries like Mexico, India, Thailand, Vietnam…etc. Besides, Volvo still has their HQ in Sweden. The factory in China still has to meet Volvo’s standards & quality checks, same with every other brands.
OP wants a Chinese car, why not consider MG or Haval
OP didn’t say he/she wants a Chinese car. It says Renault or Volvo.
Volvo still has their HQ in Sweden.
VolvoGeely is about as Swedish asMGSAIC is English. Maybe I should have added “Land Rover” and “Jaguar” as alternatives? Is “Made in India” better?What’s the issue with cars being assembled in China?
Don’t know, you will have to ask the “cHiNa CaR BaD!1!!1!” crowd. I don’t care where a car is made, so long as it’s of acceptable quality, but I don’t try an fool myself by not bothering to look any deeper than the badge on the front grille.
Does the brand & quality control not matter?
Not really. Indians took over Land Rover and kept the “absolute shitbox” marque value. But slapping an MG, Volvo, BMW, VW, Audi, Jaguar, Renault, etc… badge on a Chinese made car =/= “quality control”
Many car brands assemble their cars from countries like Mexico, India, Thailand, Vietnam…etc
They do, and they slap “luxury band names” on these cars made in third world countries and charge “Made in Germany” prices for them. I don’t understand why MG is a shitbox, but Volvo or any other car made in China under an established “luxury brand” gets a pass…
I don’t understand why MG is a shitbox, but Volvo or any other car made in China under an established “luxury brand” gets a pass…
Only thing I can think is that MG is cheap, very cheap. Volvo isn’t as cheap, so they can afford to spend more time binding it with better material/tech. However, I have no idea if the current Volvo management want to try to keep the Volvo safety/quality philosophy strong.
China can build good stuff, you just have to pay for it.
Geely is about as Swedish as MG SAIC is English.
I never said Geely is Swedish, you're twisting my words. SAIC owns MG and both are based in China. Geely owns Volvo yes, but Volvo's headquarter remains in Gothenburg, Sweden.
but I don’t try an fool myself by not bothering to look any deeper than the badge on the front grille.
But it looks like you're the one that's focusing on the badge. i.e. that Volvo is owned by a Chinese company, Geely.
Volvo also assemble their cars in other countries such as Sweden, Belgium and US. But you refer to Volvo as Chinese cars.
but Volvo or any other car made in China under an established “luxury brand” gets a pass…
Nobody is giving them a pass. If you jump on any car reviews website and all you see is "Volvo is Chinese car and it's crap".
If there's issues reported for Volvo cars assembled in China, then I agree with your statement that we shouldn't be giving them a pass purely based on badge.
But there hasn't been any major quality issues reported to date for cars assembled in China. So yes, brand & quality control does matter, even if some of their cars are made in China.
high yield investment car
I've always liked the look of the XC40, so my vote would be a Kia Seltos.
Why have you limited yourself to these brands? Why not Subaru or Toyota? Both will depreciate much better than anything European.
Buy the one that will break down the most to help stimulate the economy.
Thanks for all the advice..
As to why not Japanese brand..which seems like a lot of the comments were alluding to, actually I had quit a lot of drama with japanese brand car before I owned my last EU brand.
Besides, Japanese brand may also be made in china/india..etc. so to me the brand couldnt tell the quality.With all the comments post, I was actually hoping to get advice on how these brands' service dealer are doing in QLD.
Any or all car dealerships will 1. Rip you off. 2. Screw you around with warranty claims.
Some dealerships are better than others but if it is a low volume unpopular car dealer struggling to make a $ your chances of them going out of their way to help you when there is little or no chance of them making money out of you are buckleys.
The best place to find real info on particular car servicing problems or faults is actual owners forums.
The Volvo is obviously a much better car. Its not even close. This is the wrong forum to ask on, there is a huge bias towards shitty but reliable budget Korean cars.
Yep - I'm surprised nobody has recommended a second-hand Corolla or Camry yet!
Camry is the modern volvo… just needs the bowling hat on the parcel shelf.
I think it depends based on a number of questions:
Do you just need a car from A to B? What sort of things do you care more - performance, handling, build quality, ride quality, cost of maintenance..etc.OzBargain is prob the last place to be asking about European car. Ppl will tell you to buy Japanese/Korean car, period.
Personally I'll go with XC40 (Disclaimer - I own one :D). It's definitely one of the best value for money compact SUV on the market right now. Reason I went with it it's cos of safety and ride quality. It's definitely not a driver's car if you enjoying going through the bend at speed or being pushed back on your seat. But it's very quiet on the road & glides over any potholes on the road.
Service so far has been excellent (VIC) IMO. Can't speak for Renault as I've not much insight into its service reputation in AUS.
Hope that helps.
Thank you, thats exactly the type of advice i know.
I was really ware Ozbargain is Pro Japanese car, i naively believe its a auto forum…but now i get it.I looked for a family car that could provide all sort of safety features.
I looked into both Renault Captur and XC40 and apparently both have what I wanted : x-lane detection, 360 cam, park assist…etcThanks again for your msg.
I like the look of the new Captur, and am a big Renault fan….my experiences with Renaults have been great, dealership have had no issues and none of that bleh bleh 1970s Renault reliability bull crap.
I bought a Koleos based on what features I could get in the 35/38k mid SUV range, and at the time the Koleos beat all the rest (zen model) including RAV 4 (base model I think), Nissan Xtrail (same engine/frame but missing CarPlay/Android auto and other gear) , it ended up between a Honda CRV and Koleos , only reason I got the Koleos was I liked the look of the bonnet instead of the CRV :D. If I could have pushed the $ for a AWD version of the Honda I probably would have gone for that though…but you know, finances…
While I don't know of the Volvo XC40, I do know that you might find the Captur great value for money, with some french flair, and don't forget to push those dealers for as much stuff as you can get. Last time I got a car model RS Clio when buying the wife's car as well…they must have been keen for the sale.
Oh and the Captur is the 2nd version, so things that were a bit crap have been updated…..
2021 Renault Captur pricing* (goauto.com.au)
Life (a) $28,190
Zen (a) $30,790
Intens (a) $35,790
*Excludes on-road costsThe Volvo XC40 range has been adjusted over the years, but the current XC40 T4 Momentum (fwd) opens the range at $47,490, while the XC40 Recharge Phev (fwd) sets the high-water mark, at $64,990. (cars guide)
So what did you end up doing @cloudyoda
both are shit, buy a Toyota or a Mazda
good place to start is cars guide or drive car of the year awards
https://www.drive.com.au/drive-car-of-the-year/drive-best-sm…