Reliability of MG ZST & MG Cars in General?

kierank1 on 23/06/2021 - 15:58
Last edited 23/06/2021 - 15:59

Hi,
Parents recently told me they're looking to purchase a new car soon and they told me their primary car of interest is the MG ZST.
I'm not overly informed or familiar with MG. I just know that they sell some of the cheapest cars on the market and the cars and value proposition looks good. I am aware there is a dislike towards their cars since they're made in China.

However, I'd like to know is there much known on the reliability of MG cars yet, particularly the MG ZST?

Is MG something that would go 200,000km over the next 15 years of driving or would you expect it to fall apart well before that?

Cheers

Automotive Car MG SUV

Comments

  • MS Paint on 23/06/2021 - 16:10
    +4

    However, I'd like to know is there much known on the reliability of MG cars yet

    Who knows?

    Come back to this thread in 5 years and I'll give you an update.

    • Suravya on 04/10/2024 - 02:40

      How is your MG holding? I bought a MY23 mg zst core. 16000km no issues.

      • MS Paint on 04/10/2024 - 11:40

        You are 2 years too early.

  • Indomietable on 23/06/2021 - 16:10
    +1

    They'll be fine for the first 7 years due to warranty. After that, it's unknown territory.

    • dasher86 on 23/06/2021 - 23:07
      +7

      Even within 7 years I have heard warranty sucks at failure rate can be high and wait on parts long.

  • Wally Simmonds on 23/06/2021 - 16:20
    +1

    Maybe have a look into the reliability of SAIC built VW's

  • w0lf on 23/06/2021 - 16:21

    I asked this same question to the foreman in a MG dealership workshop last week. He said they have had no MGs come in for major issues, one or two have come back for very minor things such as one of the tyre pressure sensors not working. But as they are only new it is anyone's guess what they will be like after 50,000km have been put on them.

    • pharkurnell on 23/06/2021 - 22:06
      +23

      The wise man wants to keep his job.

  • Presence on 23/06/2021 - 16:25
    +9

    If reliability doesn't worry you then look at the resale value!

    • Nugs on 23/06/2021 - 17:11
      +2

      future classic?
      .

  • bloom on 23/06/2021 - 17:21
    +18

    Mate took one for a test drive and didn’t break down once! Very impressive

  • pegaxs on 23/06/2021 - 17:22

    "cHiNa CaR qUaLiTy BaD!1!!1!!!"

    Good point. They make Land Rovers, Volvos, some BMW, VW, Audi and they are all shit boxes.

    "cHiNa CaR ReSaLe BaD!!1!1!!!"

    But then again, you are paying a lot less than an equivalent Japanese or Korean car, let alone Euro trashwagons (that don't seem to fare too well in the resale market either…)

    I am not for or against MG vehicles, but I do know of at least 4 owners who are very happy with the MG vehicles. I know its not a large subset of owners, but it's at least 4 more than most of the "cHiNa CaR cRaP" crowd.

    Put it this way. I would buy the worst Chinese made car before I would by anything with a "Fabriqué en France 🇫🇷" sticker on it.

    • brendanm on 23/06/2021 - 17:46
      +3

      You are very pro mg lately, won't be long before you trade the fiat in I think.

      • pegaxs on 23/06/2021 - 18:03
        +3

        I've been eyeballing that EV… and the cousin has an MG SUV (non-EV) and I'm keeping an eye on just how well hers holds up. (No warranty issues so far, just servicing.)

        I'm not really "pro" any manufacturer, I am "pro" value though. I don't give a shit who makes a car, so long as it is well equipped, is of decent build quality, drives well (Don't know why I have an Outlander then. Handles like it rides on blubber) and is at a price point that beats out other cars with similar quality and features.

        If the French starting making reliable cars with loads of equipment and features and made it handle well, was of good quality and priced it at a point where it was good value, I would be jump the fence to be "pro" French.

        And as much as I don't want to admit it, I have lately been very impressed with Skoda vehicles. I've been out in a few newer ones with reps or customers and its hard to see that they are owned by VW/Audi group. If I was ever going to buy a Euro trashwagon… Skoda may have won me over…

        • brendanm on 23/06/2021 - 19:01

          I'm not really "pro" any manufacturer, I am "pro" value though

          Fair enough, and mg may end up being ok. I'm "against" them, as every single Chinese made car I've seen has been a steaming turd, perhaps these are ok though.

          And as much as I don't want to admit it, I have lately been very impressed with Skoda vehicles.

          I knew you were a vag lover deep down. They are pretty good bang for buck, and much nicer to be in and drive than the garden variety stuff.

          • pegaxs on 24/06/2021 - 10:59
            -1

            @brendanm:

            every single Chinese made car I've seen has been a steaming turd

            Wow. I have owned a Great Wall… never had an issue. Work colleagues have all of the brands covered, MG, LDV, Haval, Great Wall. I know parents I chat with at school that have MG, LDV and Haval, and all of them have only given me positive feedback. (Stockholm Syndrome??)

            I even joined an LDV Problems Fartbook group when I was looking to get one as a work vehicle (to get an idea of what to expect), and the biggest gripe was the entertainment unit was pretty flakey and some paint defect issues. The only major flaw was some guy complaining about "sand" in his radiator (??? Casting sand??) and that was it. It was generally benign shit that all car manufacturers suffer from.

            Chery on the other hand. If one more (fropanity) brings one of those into work and ask us to repair something, I'm going to take the car and shove it up their (fropanity).

            • brendanm on 24/06/2021 - 11:07
              +1

              @pegaxs: Great wall are crap. The diesel was the most gutless, laggy hunk of junk I've ever driven. All the x240s I saw leaked oil like crazy, had one that the guy had had completely resealed under warranty, a year on and it was still leaking like a sieve. Was also on its 2nd diff, which was noisy, and second gearbox, which, when I drained the oil, had a needle bearing in it. They were just copied from bits of Mitsubishi, bits of RA rodeo, and made as cheaply as possible.

              Chery are also just cheap crap.

              The only ldvs I saw went through brakes at a rate of knots, and the manufacturer had none in stock to replace them.

              I've seen first hand all the terrible problems with foton, they didn't even make sure the engine ecu could talk to the chassis ecu before selling the cars 😂

              Luckily for me, I haven't had to work on cars for a few years now, so haven't seen any of the new mg, haval etc, time will tell how they are.

    • Speckled Jim on 24/06/2021 - 08:27
      +3

      I would buy the worst Chinese made car before I would by anything with a "Fabriqué en France 🇫🇷" sticker on it.

      Your principled stance is admirable.
      I'd take a Pug 206 over a Chery J3 though.

      • pegaxs on 24/06/2021 - 10:48

        I guess I was telling a bit of a lie… I would totally own a Renault Megane RS 2 something something Trophy car. And If I was given a Peugeot 206 GTi, I would take it, but I wouldn't part with money for one.

    • Ozbargainite on 24/06/2021 - 17:12

      Can I assume you will use Chinese tyres over French tyres?

    • striker5950 on 25/06/2021 - 15:01

      they are though, most of those cars you mentioned are not known to be reliable. forget the luxury image most those brands are hated by every mechanic for being very difficult to work on and having very expensive replacement parts. toyota or nothing

    • Vote for Pedro on 25/06/2021 - 16:07
      +2

      My personal favourite its the neighbour who bought a brand spanking new GW dual cab and has his aussie flag covering the rear window and has an aussie flag as the sun protector when its parked. I chuckle to myself when walking past it.

    • seedyrom on 25/06/2021 - 17:28

      Maybe people think Chinese built cars are the worst, because the rust whilst sitting in the dealership car yards.
      They don’t have a terrible reputation because of RaCiSm!!

      • striker5950 on 25/06/2021 - 18:45

        Chinese cars do suck compared to.. say Japanese cars or even Korean cars. has nothing to do with racism, people are so quick to play the race card..

    • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2021 - 19:03
      +8

      Wanting a car not built in China =/= racist.

      MG cars are unreliable crap

    • Gratt on 23/06/2021 - 20:15
      +7

      The Chinese government has declared some weird ass trade war against Australia. They are currently facing off US military craft in the Taiwan straits. It is quite possible that actual war will erupt. Chinese warranties will be worthless if things escalate. They are certainly not de-escalating. These are really cheap cars. However, they need to be really cheap? A cheap Toyota Corolla new may set you back $22000. You can probably expect 10 years of low service cost driving and still get a re sell value of a couple of thousand. It will cost you $2000 a year. A badly made car will cost maybe more than that per year in repairs.

      It's not racism to criticize Chinese cars. I expect eventually they will become good car makers. For now I would prefer Japanese or Korean built cars. They are proud of the vehicles they make. I don't see the Chinese are as keen… yet. In China you don't get paid unemployment benefit. You get a job in a state run factory or enterprise. A better system if you ask me. It is a system that produces high volume poor quality goods at times.

      • justdigi on 23/06/2021 - 20:34
        +2

        Where are you buying a Corolla for $22k?

        • brendanm on 24/06/2021 - 11:10

          Aren't they $23k for a base manual? Pretty close to $22k

          • justdigi on 24/06/2021 - 11:27

            @brendanm: That may be on the run out model? The cheapest drive away is supposed to be $27k on current model according to Toyota. However there is no stock and the cheapest I can find (in Brisbane) is $32k drive away - $10k more than that quoted price. Maybe different where you live?

          • daddydirtsurfer on 25/06/2021 - 14:55
            -1

            @brendanm: Bought a Corolla ascent sport for 23k drive away with free metallic paint, fuel, slim number plate, boot tray, and carpet rugs 8 years ago. Pretty bulletproof.

      • Vote for Pedro on 25/06/2021 - 16:09

        Meanwhile we’re sending the fixated persons unit from the counter terrorist squad to arrest a YouTube comedian/journalist because he hurt a minister’s feelings.

        So much for free press.

    • Exec-Matrix on 24/06/2021 - 07:34
      -1

      Such an ugly comment… I try and support China as little as possible and no way if hand over thousands for a shitebox

      • deal88 on 24/06/2021 - 13:43
        +1

        What phone do you have?

    • seedyrom on 25/06/2021 - 17:29
      -1

      You are a tool

  • Euphemistic on 23/06/2021 - 17:50
    +2

    When you are building down to a price something has to give. Typically quality. Even if they build he drivetrain well, they’ll user cheaper steel, paint and plastic so the other stuff will start to fail.

    Is MG something that would go 200,000km over the next 15 years of driving or would you expect it to fall apart well before that?

    Given their resale value being pretty low, once you get to 10yo it’s unlikely to be economical to repair. If something breaks, it’s a write off. If it keeps going it’ll probably not get any servicing. Some will survive, many will end up as scrap.

    Will the proportion of Japanese and Korean cars last that long be higher? Definitely. It is a gamble, but the opening bet is a lot lower.

    • This Guy on 23/06/2021 - 19:19
      +2

      When you are building down to a price something has to give. Typically quality. Even if they build he drivetrain well, they’ll user cheaper steel, paint and plastic so the other stuff will start to fail.

      All manufacturers are tight arses.

      • Euphemistic on 23/06/2021 - 19:54
        +1

        True dat. However some manufacturers also value being the best in areas other than price so can pay for more premium materials - and charge you twice the cost of said upgrades.

        • This Guy on 24/06/2021 - 20:34

          And then some. Projector puddle lights….

  • Ocker on 23/06/2021 - 19:32
    +4

    Forget putting any emphasis on resale value - my 2008 MB E280 that cost $120.000 new is now worth about $10.000. Your MG costing $35.000 would be worth about $5.000 after 15 years. Maths are simple.
    Running costs for the MG would be comparable to any other (non prestige) car.
    Forget the snob value and just go for which you find is a good drive that meets your values.

    • Presence on 23/06/2021 - 20:41
      -2

      Maybe instead of a Benz you could bought 4 Toyota Camrys and still have very good resale today?

      • Exec-Matrix on 24/06/2021 - 07:35
        +4

        He likes driving a car not a whitegood.

  • hardjards on 23/06/2021 - 22:27
    +1

    I dunno, but the warranty is good. In 1999 I bought a Hyundai excel as a second car runabout for my wife. At the time all the naysayers said it wouldn't make it around the block. Almost 400k and 15 years later I traded it in. Honestly the lowest cost of ownership of any car I have owned.

    I see plenty of MGs on the road, their parent company produce shit loads of cars. Good luck, I hope you get many years of trouble free motoring

  • JIMB0 on 24/06/2021 - 05:56

    They would almost certainly be more reliable than the smaller cars that Holden were selling.

    • pegaxs on 24/06/2021 - 07:33

      LoL @ rebadged Daewoo… Chevrolet South Korea… I think it's hilarious that a country that can bring us Hyundai and Kia also thrust upon us Daewoo.

      "To help improve sales in Australia, we are going to rebadged Daewoo cars as Holden…"
      "You are going to improve quality?"
      "…."
      "You are going to improve quality aren't you?"

      • Speckled Jim on 24/06/2021 - 08:25
        +1

        True dat. Best Holdens were Japanese!

  • afah0447 on 24/06/2021 - 09:17
    +1

    Automobile made in China…steer well clear. They are like Korean cars 30yrs ago, terrible. They just don't have the experience and expertise yet to make a quality offering. Ignore the MG marque, it means nothing but they are banking people thinking it's quality…it definitely is not.

    • t_c on 25/06/2021 - 14:14

      Tesla don't have decades of manufacturing experience either and they seem to do ok.

      • GordonD on 25/06/2021 - 15:35

        Tesla rates worst in reliability surveys. Why they seem a lot better than that is that the people who buy them are enthusiasts who overlook the shortcomings and focus on what Tesla does that no-one else is.

    • photonbuddy on 25/06/2021 - 15:42

      They are like Korean cars 30yrs ago, terrible

      Uninformed claptrap!

      My brother had a second gen Excel, and it was brilliant! He paid extra for the 5 speed manual, and it was great. Had plenty of power for what it was. He did 400K+ on it as a driving school car, and apart from the clutch being replaced more than a conventional car, it was reliable.

      Now … I'm not suggesting the MG's are going to be as good, but far too many people will make these idiotic claims without having never owned one.

      The truth is this:

      If you buy an established brand car and it has faults, well that's just bad luck, even if a significant percentage of that model has issues.

      If you buy a new brand car and it develops faults, it's because it's a shit brand that only makes crap.

  • Robz on 24/06/2021 - 09:17

    Just remember this has nothing to do with the great MG branding from Britain.
    This is just them trying to ride on the coattails of a great branded name. Beware

    • saltypete on 24/06/2021 - 09:59
      +6

      If it was still the ‘great MG branding from Britain’ OP would know it was unreliable crap. The fact that he is now unsure is a plus for the brand I’d say….

      • Euphemistic on 24/06/2021 - 18:06
        +3

        Ha ha. Yes, the only thing the original MGs had going for them was style. Good old British engineering had nothing to do with reliability

  • Darayus on 24/06/2021 - 09:43

    If someone remembers brand Cherry from SAIC stable, that was cheap but no one was buying even brand new car was selling under $11K. Now same company makes MG and people take different perception. I had the opportunity to drive Proton from Malaysia and my friend bought 3 years old car 25K km fully loaded with 2 years warranty still left on the car for $ 6K and now he is laughing because that car has already 8 years old more than 100K and no major dramas and he loves that car so much because it's fully loaded and he drives regularly to Sydney Kempsey and he loves that car.

    Actually, we have a perception of the brand rather than the quality of vehicle a placebo effect and what other people will say if I drive Cherry, Proton, MG or VW, Peugeot or Toyota.

  • saltypete on 24/06/2021 - 10:15

    It gets down to how good the dealer support network is in OZ.
    There are lots of MGs flitting around in China. Their social media there is internally pretty cruel just like FB and bad cars get outed pretty quickly. They can’t be too bad if they are continuing to sell in numbers.
    Not sure how you judge good dealership support, which I am guessing would be very important for your parents. Japanese, Korean seem OK atm…….
    My creds are pretty bad on judging dealership - I own a Holden…….

  • Miata9 on 24/06/2021 - 13:33

    MGs are not reliable. Especially the SAIC DCT gearboxes, they are well known for quality issues in China.

    Haval is a better choice actually. if you dont mind the engine from 80s but GWM produces better cars overall. Plenty of review/research state that GWM is catching up the mainstream manufacturers with quality builds.

    —- an honest chinese fellow

  • OzHunterNSW on 24/06/2021 - 14:48
    -3

    My MG (ZTT) is 19 years old… and still mechanically and electronically fantastic. Built by BMW, at the time.

    However, these modern MG's are "TOYs"…. Why do you think traveling salesmen drove large sedans - bc of comfort and reliability.

    If you anticipate 200,000 km in a TOY, with a TOY motor, then expect to pay double in repairs.

    The old adage Function follows Form, apples here. If you want to travel 200,000 km, and you have not stipulated what sort of roads, then I suggest you think about vehicles that will get you there, in comfort.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 25/06/2021 - 14:57
    -1

    There are 56 car manufacturers in Australia - some have been here for over half a century - most people drive there car almost everyday for the better part of two decades - To save a few grand on a car brand that is a complete unknown puzzles me.

    Im not having ago at brands like MG or Haval etc it is the simple fact they haven't been in the game long enough to have a reputation for reliability, customer service, support, parts etc - for all you know MG could leave Australia in 24-months and you're stuck with a car you might struggle to find parts for. - on top of that with the unknown brands the money you save in upfront costs you lose in the long run regarding re-sale value

    Stick to your Jap or Korean cars - if you want value for money as a general rule

    • photonbuddy on 25/06/2021 - 15:47
      -3

      To save a few grand on a car brand that is a complete unknown puzzles me.

      So … No Hyundai, Kia, Tesla then? These were all new brands once. In your world, they simply wouldn't exist, because no-one would have bought their early cars.

      This type of attitude is just idiotic. It's like established brands are incapable of producing lemons. We all know that's rubbish.

      • Trying2SaveABuck on 25/06/2021 - 17:17
        -1

        If you know anything about cars kia and Hyundai were rubbish when they 1st came here….i wouldnt touch Tesla at this stage Aus has a long way to go for EVs

        • photonbuddy on 25/06/2021 - 20:42

          Define '1st'.

          How many years does it take?

          And … you have helpfully (to yourself) completely side-stepped the question about how new car brands are supposed to exist.

          According to you, we'd have no Hyundai, Kia, Tesla, etc. because no-one should be buying new brands.

          It's like these idiots that recommend not buying off low feedback sellers on E-Bay. How are they supposed to become high feedback sellers if no-one buys from them?

          • Trying2SaveABuck on 25/06/2021 - 22:26

            @photonbuddy: "It's like these idiots that recommend not buying off low feedback sellers on E-Bay. How are they supposed to become high feedback sellers if no-one buys from them?"

            You just DONT get it bruv THAT ISNT THE CONSUMERS problem - You as a consumer needs to make the best choice for yourself - if you want to buy and MG then go for it.

            OP asked for an opinion I gave mine

            • photonbuddy on 26/06/2021 - 09:58

              @Trying2SaveABuck: It's you that doesn't get it bruv.

              It seems like you're happy to have no competitors enter the market. It seems you're happy to let the existing businesses do as they please, because they can count on bruvs like you to not take your business to any new businesses.

              The whole attitude of dealing with established businesses only has only 1 outcome. That is we end-up being screwed.

              You say you're only giving an opinion. That's fine, of course, but an opinion is worthless if it's based on a rubbish assumption.

              Assumptions … bad … but I can only assume you're too young to remember the whole Jap-crap era. And the whole Korean-crap era.

              If we all took your approach, your opinion of 'Stick to your Jap or Korean cars' would simply not be possible, as they would have never been given the chance to evolve.

              Unless, of course, you're one of these people that expect others to take risks to benefit you.

              • Trying2SaveABuck on 26/06/2021 - 11:53
                -2

                @photonbuddy: why do you think Kia have a 7 year warranty becuz ppl weren't buying there shit so they 'disrupted the market in an era of 3 year warranties they came in with 7! - if new car brands want to draw in a market share they need to give people are reason to buy there car then offer something that makes it worth the risk - Dont ask me what that is im not a marketing guru but thats how business works if your going to introduce an established product into the market it needs to be better then whats out there.

                Doesnt matter bruv you dont get it,

                "If we all took your approach, your opinion of 'Stick to your Jap or Korean cars' would simply not be possible, as they would have never been given the chance to evolve."

                Bruv i cant argue with stupid, out of the top 10 sold cars in Australia 9/10 of them are Korean or Japanese cars…. the only acceptation is the Ranger

                https://www.oiyo.com.au/car-insurance/best-selling-cars-2021…

                • photonbuddy on 26/06/2021 - 12:53

                  @Trying2SaveABuck:

                  why do you think Kia have a 7 year warranty

                  MG offer a 6/7 year warranty.

                  if new car brands want to draw in a market share they need to give people are reason to buy there car

                  MG cars are cheaper than your beloved cars.

                  So … they meet your requirements, but still a no-go.

                  out of the top 10 sold cars in Australia 9/10 of them are Korean or Japanese cars

                  Ummm … who is the stupid one here? You say don't buy an MG because it's a new brand with no pedigree. Then you tell people to buy Korean and Japanese cars, which were once also a new brand with no pedigree. By your own words, Korean and Japanese cars should simply not exist, because back when they were starting out, only an idiot would have bought them!

                  I guess in 15 years when Chinese cars make 9/10 sales, you'll come back here ragging on the new brands of the day …

                  • Trying2SaveABuck on 26/06/2021 - 13:20

                    @photonbuddy: They do offer a 7 year warrenty but the market is full of 5 and 7 warranty cars that isnt 'market disrupting' that is market level…. you need to learn basic business strategy

                    As i said, if you learnt to read Kia brought in the 7 year warrenty when 3 years was the norm… i hope to god youre not in business because you'd go bankrupt

                    As for being cheaper upfront yes they are becuz no one would buy them if they weren't but practically they arent cheaper becuz an MGs resell value compared to a Toyota is chalk and cheese

                    Im not arguing with you anymore boss you got no idea about cars or the Australian Car industry. The market atm has clear favoritr if you look at sales and overall customer satisfaction if you want to buck the trend then go for it…

                    Im happy to agree to disagree

                    • photonbuddy on 27/06/2021 - 11:05
                      +1

                      @Trying2SaveABuck:

                      becuz an MGs resell value compared to a Toyota is chalk and cheese

                      As is the initial sale price!

                      you got no idea about cars or the Australian Car industry.

                      I'm not the one that yells "Don't buy new unknown brands!!!!!" and then advises people to buy brands that were once unknown brands.

                      You're the one that doesn't see the hypocrisy in that. You're the one that doesn't seem to understand that your beloved Korean/Jap cars were the MG of their day. You're the one who doesn't understand that if people listened to your claptrap, those brands wouldn't exist today. You refuse to address this issue, because you know what you're saying is a load of garbage, and you've been called-out on it …

                      Im happy to agree to disagree

                      Yep. The final statement of a defeated person. Well done to you!

  • smartazz104 on 25/06/2021 - 15:13
    +2

    I'm sure they are at least as reliable as they were back in the British Leyland days.

  • Oofy Doofy on 25/06/2021 - 15:22

    Honda is pulling out of Aus (not totally), limited range on offer.

    Tell your parents to buy a new Toyota or maybe even a Mitsubishi with the 10 year warranty offer.

    You want trouble free motoring, courtesy vehicle, peace of mind.

    • GordonD on 25/06/2021 - 15:41

      Honda isn't pulling out, its just changing its sales model. Its a change a few manufacturers are looking very seriously at. No more dealers to negotiate prices with. You'll purchase online at a fixed price from Honda Australia, and collect your car from a local Honda agent who as well as delivering cars for Honda also services them, and may purchase or arrange to sell your previous car for you.

      • Oofy Doofy on 26/06/2021 - 13:19

        We are essentially saying the same thing. It's just hard to recommend a Honda over a Toyota or KIA these days, due to their very conservative presence they're going to have in Australia moving forward.

        I'm noticing a few Japanese companies having long wait times for parts (not electronics related) in the last few years, so even their parts inventory has been well scaled back.

        • Trying2SaveABuck on 26/06/2021 - 13:31

          I would say Toyota would trump Honda price wise you might get more bang for your buck with a Honda or Kia

          Honda isnt pulling out of Australia they are getting rid of the dealerships sales model becuz the current sales model is outdated.

          Most people see car salesmen as sleezy lying creeps. Not all of them are but they are consistently voted in the top 5 least trusted professionals in Auatralia.

          Women in particle has often surveyed report feeling uncomfortable without a males with them when buying a new or used car - that is 50% of the market not happy with the current system.

          I dont blame Honda for changing the sales model as it cuts out the middle man however if it is going 2 b successful is another question. In the USA there are a number of new sales models some even let you drive the car for 7 days before agreeing to purchase it.

          I do agree the current industry needs a change as the old school aggressive sales tactics clearly aren't working as the new car market pre covid had shunk 8 quarters in a row

            • Trying2SaveABuck on 10/07/2021 - 14:38

              @Oofy Doofy: Maybe you should see what John says about MG, Haval etc….

              Also here is his buyers guide…https://autoexpert.com.au/bestcars - almost every car is made i SK or Japan. He has a few BMW in there is you are up for the higher end price point of vehicles

              • tonyjzx on 10/07/2021 - 16:56

                @Trying2SaveABuck: I really like John but to be honest, he's preaching to a avg, Australian who is not an enthusiast and just wants A to B travel at the lowest cost best resale value etc. etc.

                Of course he's going to recommened the established players.

                He is risk adverse (here I go again) against anything not perceived as established tech.

                If you look at it like that, you do not need a turbo, you do not need dct, you do not need cvts or stop start or EVs or…

                John would preach about a Hyundai i30 or something with a 7yr waranty with an N/A motor on a conventional torque converter.

                But is a reasonable request for everyone???

                For some people they like the risk and the risk is worth the reward so they drive VW Golfs or BMW 330 or AMGs or Teslas.

                • Trying2SaveABuck on 10/07/2021 - 17:05
                  +1

                  @tonyjzx: I agree with you Tony but the conversation isn't around 'premium cars' it is around shit box new Chinese brands like MG trying to break into the Aus market without giving consumers any real reason to take a risk on them.

                  Personally speaking i like Mercedes/Jaguars John hates them, but for the most part 90% of Australians would be better off listening too him. Just on Ozbargin alone there is a post every week regarding car issues new or second hard.

                  There is a level of 'personal' preference when it comes to what you drive but i wouldnt touch Haval, MG or any other crap that isnt established

                  • tonyjzx on 10/07/2021 - 17:11

                    @Trying2SaveABuck: MG to him, at any level is not worth the risk.

                    MG make the cheapest car available, the MG3 core whaetver hatch. Buit even at sub $20k is it worth it?

                    MG make that petrol SUV and the EV model. To him its not with the $45k risk.

                    Even to him premium or not, theres little out there worth this risk according to him.

                    On the other hand, do I think the new 2022 Hyundia Tuscon is worth the $38k?

                    its an n/a 2.0 four automatic without keyless entry!

                    Low risk but highly undesirable to me.

                    • Trying2SaveABuck on 10/07/2021 - 17:20

                      @tonyjzx: A lot of people think that the MG, Haval etc is cheaper but when it is work out the terrible resale value it is probably not worth the extra risk you take on compared to brands like Toyota.

                    • saltypete on 11/07/2021 - 09:13
                      +1

                      @tonyjzx: I think you make an interesting point here. if I wanted to spend say $70k to 90k on a vehicle that had creature comforts, low NVH, safety and reliability, I’m thinking that there is maybe Lexus and not much else. Something that you would confidently keep for 10 years.
                      Some of the euro EVs?
                      I recognise that this is different from OPs question, but has me thinking…..

      • Oofy Doofy on 23/07/2021 - 15:29

        https://youtu.be/ShxBmzQO8Jk?t=462

        Like I was saying.

  • payless69 on 25/06/2021 - 15:35

    Not much wrong with them other than the fuel tanks falling off and the steering falling apart so life is a challenge?

  • Cookiescream on 25/06/2021 - 15:58
    +1

    MG ZS - 7 years roadside assistance and 7 years warranty.

    I am nearly 2 years and over 20000 km done and no issues.

    I find easy to drive and I am overall very happy with it.

    • Exec-Matrix on 26/06/2021 - 07:54

      Do you like driving or just bought it because of the 7 year thing?

      • Cookiescream on 26/06/2021 - 10:48
        +1

        Last line says "i find easy to drive".

        The cars suits all my needs. I am comfortable driving for travelling as i am going to work.

        I am not entirerly sure what do you mean by "do i like driving" do i like driving in general, do i like driving my car, do i l ike drving aimlesly…

        • tonyjzx on 27/06/2021 - 18:17

          He's been snarky. You'll find that the vast majority of people just want a car to go from A to B with little fuss and cost.

          I'm going to be honest… I personally really find little real world objective difference in a 2005 Camry and a 2020 Camry when it comes down to it.

          Do I like or enjoy driving them? No. Lol. No.

          You dont buy an MG or a Camry or a CUV if you 'enjoy' driving.

          You buy something like a MX5 or a BMW X3 or even an Audi Q3 etc. You get the idea.

          I appreciate the thoughts of a real world owner.

          I have never ever 'enjoyed' a single moment behind the wheel of a Camry or a CRV or a RAV4 or… the list goes on.

          They do a job. They do it well. That's it.

  • Suravya on 04/10/2024 - 02:41

    How is your MG's holdings up people?

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