Hit a kerb while coming out of a narrow roundabout and this happend to my front left wheel/tyre. Photo: https://i.imgur.com/nkNUrlP.jpeg
How bad is it? Do i need a new tyre? should I get the rim checked out?
Hit a kerb it scraped my wheel and a small chunk got cut off the tyre sidewall - do i need to change the type / rim?
cycleri3 on 01/06/2021 - 18:02
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Wait, what? I was always taught ANY damage to sidewall is an immediate replacement. It's the most important structural part of the tyres, can create protruding bubble bulges and may cause blow-outs.
Alloy wheel is perfectly fine, just might need balancing, but that tyre is toast and should be replaced.
This is interesting. Because most of my life has been said the opposite, not extreme damage, but similar to OP. 😂😂
We finally meet.
I'm amazed by that. Every single source online with a basic search says any sidewall damage is dangerous and must instantly be replaced.
I know for a fact it's an MOT (safety check pink slip equiv) failure in the UK. Not sure here but would imagine the same. Regardless, it's really not worth the risk of a blowout at high speed, get it replaced tomorrow.
@Hybroid: See, I actually thought the same. The day I did it, I took it to a tyre shop and they said play on.
Then I mentioned it to my mechanic and they also said the same. They checked for rim damage because they are 20s,
and they said no issues. I had tones of tread but that didn't matter the slightest because it was sidewall. Even had police do roadworthy checks at random sites. No issues lolIt's been like that for the last 2 and a half years.
@Hybroid: Same. You're the type to Google your symptoms and find out you have a couple of days to live. There is NO bulge or cords present on the sidewall. Minor incident with like 0.5cm of missing rubber.
@SF3: Im a parnoid guy. So if I thought this would be an issue, I wouldnt take no as an answer. Haha but if the tyre shop (who could have made an easy $200 off me) says no issue. Then play on is the call lol.
if the tyre shop (who could have made an easy $200 off me) says no issue. Then play on is the call lol.
Yep, agree!
This might be helpful for those wanting a visual dictionary on a car tyre.
I wouldn't be driving any great distance or at highway speed on that tyre. Get the rim checked, tyre replaced.
No way. I have the exact same issue as OP, been serviced multiple times by dealer and even non dealer who have said no issues.
This is incorrect advice. Sidewall damage to tyres must be replaced for safety.
Interesting, that was 4 services later and also from a tyre shop who removed a nail not too long ago.
Beaurepairs guy said no issue at all. Similar to OP.
Well if you were my child I'd have bought you a new tyre immediately.
For <$200 just replace it and move on.
Well if you were my child I'd have bought you a new tyre immediately.
Why not let the child buy it themselves?
I'm a decent dad. I buy the cars, service the cars, and replace the tyres too.
All they have to do is fuel them, pay fines, and let me know if any tyres are damaged.
I'm a decent dad. I buy the cars, service the cars, and replace the tyres too.
Good stuff, they'll grow up knowing responsibilty then 🙄
Buying things doesn't make a good parent.
Well if you were my child I'd have bought you a new tyre immediately.
What is a child doing with a car? Unless it's a toy car, then it doesn't matter and I'm sure new tyres are not readily available?
My guess is, emotional turmoil is greater than safety concerns on this one :)
"Well if you were my child I'd have bought you a new tyre immediately"
Reckon you may get swamped with adoption requests from fellow OZB membersBest to have clicked "Reply" to @Alan Laz than "Post a New Comment" :)
Is that your advise?
To be advised of the advice?
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21/02/2017They're not even new here either.
No need for sniping comment like that
Actually I did click as you suggested!
It's fine
I’ve seem worse.
If your tyre is getting close to worn, then no harm in replacing a little sooner. If it has plenty of life left just keep an eye on the pressure and make sure it isn’t deflating.
50 to 60km'hr for 10 to 20 minutes at most. 80kms/hr iffy and NO go at 100km/hr.
Two new tyres if you cannot get exactly the same tyre, so ring around for the same tyre.
Great photo, really shows the detail…
But do ya reckon you could draw it up in MS Paint for us?
How bad is it?
Not too bad, yes you need a new tyre. It has sidewall damage, and now has increased risk of failing (normally at speed).
As for the rim, nah its just some gravel rash. You'll be ok.
Do you have a full size spare? If so, you can swap it around and put the spare on instead. This tyre will be ok for a spare ;)
Hmm what's the date code on the tyre? It looked kinda old..
Time for a whole new car
Just do the same on the other side so the car doesn't pull to the left.
Might just be the photo but looks like a bit of a lip on those brake disks.
Wait till it upgrades itself to the free egg feature. You can poke it for fun, you might even get a finger reduction too.
How about using common sense , if you have worries about the tyre change it …..
It depends on damage location, depth, area(size) compared to sidewall thickness and other Safety Parameters.
That by the photo it is Safety and RWC fail and I would question the rim as well.
I replace many tyres every month for similar damage and I have the full support of the Dept, I have never had a decision reversed.
The rim could well be cracked or fractured internally, hidden by the tyre, so it needs to be stripped for a detailed inspection. Apart from a mechanical / material failure it could also leak air. maybe not today, or next month but at some point………BOOM.
But it is a very poor photo for detail and tyre is still on rim. Take it off and fit your spare wheel, have tyre removed and take both items to the Transport Dept and get a qualified and exacting answer.
If the tyre is deemed acceptable, you know for sure. If the rim is deem ok again you know for sure, and then a wheel balance will show rim buckle or not, where if ok, the tyre can be refitted and balanced.
Any scrape/impact to the wheels could knock your front and or rear wheel alignment out a touch, and it may scrub tyres prematurely. That is up to you to watch for scrub and feathered edges to determine if and when to get an alignment.
How much value do you put on opinions of bargain hunters and money skimpers seeing a photo with many having unqualified knowledge Australian Safety Standards on the safety of your family or other road users when the rim/tyre fails at speed?
Hard facts earning negs I imagine…… Get it checked properly in person, not in here.
Take it off and fit your spare wheel, have tyre removed and take both items to the Transport Dept and get a qualified and exacting answer.
Lol
The rim could well be cracked or fractured internally
It's a little bit of gutter rash, come on now.
And your qualifications and experience accounts to ?
Been a mechanic for many years. Thanks for asking.
@brendanm: Then you know full well Alloy can fracture, on the inside from an impact…who is to know how much that gutter rash is mostly rotation, and not mostly a sideways impact?
The tyre needs to go, so it is easy then to perform a visual on the rim inside bead sealing edge and lip.
99% there be no issue but the 1% is there maybe.
40yrs Qualified and experience plus over 30 yrs doing Road-worthies and tyre says to me a photo in here guided by armchair experts trying only to save a dollar, is not a replacement for a profession inspection and or opinion.
The OP appears clueless, asking here and not in person directly to Qualified Mechanical Professionals, he/she wants/needs correct advise, not Armchair warriors trying save a buck without the required 'what if' knowledge.
As a mechanic you should know full well everybody thinks they are an expert until they ask you for help..
@doctordv8: That wheel has been scraped on a gutter. It hasn't punched it at 60kmh.
I never disagreed with the tyre being replaced, it should, as sidewall damage is serious.
Most people have said to replace the tyre.
Lol
Go to one or two tyre places that do roadworthy certificates and if they say ok then accept their call. That is what I did.
You're here trying to save some bucks right. First option… Switch it out with your spare if you have a full size spare. If no full size spare, rotate tyres front to rear on both sides of car. This puts the compromised tyre on the rear (I'm assuming you got the front tyre here) so that if the tyre fails it's not so catastrophic… You won't lose steering, car won't bite into the road and do something unpredictable.
I recommend replacing the tyre. And maybe taking lessons to improve your driving.
Talk about making a mountain from a mole hill…..seriously, it’s nothing. As mentioned, if it really bothers you, swap it with the spare.
The Rim is fine.
Minimal damage and normal ear and tear
Happens every dayAs for the tyre is best to get a professional opinion from a tyre dealer
Inspecting a photo is not enough Im afraid.Meanwhile move it to the back if its not already there or with the spare if its the same tyre.
Certainly the damaged tyre will serve as a spare
in which case no need to replace it.
Burn the tyre with the car and never speak of it again.
NO… it's nothing to worry about.
You could "file" down the rough area of the rim with a file, or sandpaper. other than that…. there is nothing to worry about
It looks fine
Edit: Check the tyre tomorrow and see if its holding pressure but most likely nothing is going to happen as the sidewall is pretty thick beside missing a small chunk and kerb rashes is present with no signs of cracked and/or buckled wheel. There might be a small chance of needing an alignment but very unlikely.