Parcels Stolen Same Day I Gave My Address to a Facebook Market Place Buyer. Scam or a Coincidence?

Hello Oz Bargain brains trust and amateur detective club,

Just a quick one, to see what the general consensus is.

Here's the TLDR:

Parcels stolen on the same day I gave my address to a Facebook market place buyer.

The time window seems to small for them to have tried to do a scam, but it is a weird coincidence.

Scam, passerby theft or mystery disappearance, choose an option.

And here's the full story

Two parcels were supposedly (according to Aus Post tracking) delivered to our address yesterday.
They would have been delivered by our bike-postie, who would have put it in the letter box attached to the fence.

He often will leave letter or satchel parcels sticking out, with the lid up, like so (OBLIGATORY MS PAINT DRAWING): https://ibb.co/2dgzyNR.
And although it's 'behind the fence', it's a) a low fence, and b) easy to reach with no obstacles c) the parcels are very visible.

The parcels are missing, and most likely stolen. This is the first time we've had anything stolen, despite it being a bit of a rough area and with a LOT of strangers, tradies and industrial workers parking in and using the street every day. We've also had a huge amount of rail construction going on and trucks in and out, all day, every day.

Now, here's the question.

Were the parcels stolen by a random passer-by, or: plot twist, by a facebook scammer.

I was selling an item on marketplace, and got a message at 9am from someone wanting to buy it. They asked when I was home. I said, after 2pm, but did NOT give the address. They just knew the suburb from my listing.

At 1pm, they messaged again, and said they wanted to come and buy it. I was on the tram home, so said OK. After back and forth messaging, I gave the address at 1:18pm, and was home by 1:35pm.

They never showed up, and deleted themselves from the conversation. I cannot find them through facebook, though I have a screenshot of the messages, as well as their name and profile photo. I have no intention of tracking them down anyway, as a) I have no proof they are connected to the missing parcels and b) I'd rather not get into a fight over $100 worth of completely replaceable items.

However, it got me wondering if a) it actually was a scam and b) if so, what the scam was. Had they come to the suburb with the intention of trying to break into the house within the 40 minute window? (They didn't know I'd be home 20 minutes after I texted the address, I gave myself extra time and said 2pm)

Then, discovering they weren't able to, they just stole the parcels out of spite? I mean, they had no idea I was going to have parcels delivered, so stealing parcels can't have been the agenda. If they were planning a break in, why not give themselves more time and ask for the address earlier? Or is there another scam that revolves around getting someones address? They had neither my name nor phone number. (My facebook profile is an alias specifically for marketplace).

OR

Is this all a giant coincidence and a passerby stole them in the time between delivery (10am) and me getting home (1:30pm). As I said, I often see my and my neighbours parcels left out visibly in the open all day and we've never had anything stolen before, but there's always a first time.

I have asked all the neighbours, and nobody has the parcels or saw anything.

I have also been in touch with Aus Post and eBay, and have lodged missing parcels cases. I don't expect to get either the parcels or my money back (though would appreciate advice on how I could, if it is a possibility. One was paid with creditcard, the other paypal - do they offer reimbursements?).

So, what's the consensus? Scam or coincidence? Give up, or follow through to the end of the mystery, Miss Marple style?

Poll Options expired

  • 1
    They weren't stolen, it's an Australia post mixup
  • 10
    The facebook marketplace person stole them
  • 100
    A random passerby stole them

Comments

  • +74

    Get a load of Picasso over here. That image is too good for us.

    • +10

      Superb. They should be the Ozb mspaint artisan from now on.

      • +4

        The gold standard, nothing less will do.

    • +21

      Dang, I feel I've sold myself short - should have added some shading to indicate the play of light and shade in the morning sun…

      • +7

        You should be our resident ms-painter. 👍

    • I doubt it was actually done in MS Paint…

      • +2

        iPad pro with 2nd gen pencil is my guess

        • +4

          Actually yes, cheating with my wacom cintiq, in terms of actual MS paint skills, I could never rival the original master.

    • Too realistic to be a Picasso.

    • +1

      Am thinking this whole post and scenario is manufactured to show off MS Paint skills.

  • +1

    amateur detective club

    Only Professionals here in OzB, ma’am! 😁

  • +3

    Extra poll option… who knows?
    It could have been delivered to a wrong address maybe? Happens with us often… if a street name begins with the same letter it gets left there. :-(
    If you live in a dodgy area why risk things being stolen? Get a po box.

    • +2

      Duly noted and extra option added. However, the two parcels were addressed to two different people and sent from two different places so it would be very odd for them to both go to different addresses. Our postie knows me by name and greets me if he sees me out and about at the shops, so he wouldn't make a mistake with addresses.

      I don't get enough parcels or order such expensive stuff that I need a po box. I've never had mail or parcels vanish before. However, I'll be asking the postie to deliver parcels to the door from now on, instead of in the mailbox.

  • +9

    Just a quick one

    Then proceeds to write a thesis

    • It's a fair cop guv.

      Here's the tldr:

      Parcels stolen on the same day I gave my address to a Facebook market place buyer.

      The time window seems to small for them to have tried to do a scam, but it is a weird coincidence.

      Scam, passerby theft or mystery disappearance, choose an option.

    • -1

      Then proceeds to write a thesis

      Don't forget the "MS Paint" drawing, oh wait…

  • That'd be a hilarious and inefficient way to scam so i'm going to believe it

    • And yet, the Darwin awards shows us the world is full of hilariously inefficient criminals (and just people in general) so you never know!

  • +2

    OP, was it an auspost eParcel?

    We’ll also take a photo of the parcel as proof that it was delivered safely, which you’ll be able to access at auspost.com.au/MerchantTrack

    • I don't think so, it says parcel post on the tracking page and I don't seem to have the option to find a photo.

      The page you linked to doesn't seem to exist. I found another one, but you have to make an account. I'm guessing not an eparcel then…

  • +1

    It was me

    • +9

      …and you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling ozbargainers!

  • -1

    Most certainly they came over with the intention of buying your item, but figured they could just steal your packages instead.

    • Well, unlucky them, they missed a bargain and got some really basic stuff for free haha

      Perhaps they suffered a sudden burst of kleptomania and then deleted themselves from the chat out of shame… Well, I guess I could hope for a repentant return of the stuff one day…

  • I'm liking the MS Paint prototype.

    It reminds me of The Cube.
    https://tinyurl.com/3c8rf2ap

  • +10

    We had a new postie who couldn't be bothered walking up to the front door to leave a parcel behind the planter box so that it was delivered safely so he stuffed an oversized parcel in our letterbox by flipping up the dome top. Little did the postie know that my retired neighbour was watching and just as the postie was taking a photo of his handiwork, my neighbour rushed out and admonished him for not delivering the parcel properly.

    We found out what happened when we got home from work and our neighbour flagged us down in the driveway - he had actually got the postie's name and had already logged a complaint online because he was so angry on our behalf!

    We registered for a parcel locker to save our retired neighbour from any further conniptions over posties delivering badly ;)

    • That's awesome haha

    • Where do you live, might as well offer 100k above asking price in your area.

  • +1

    Picture needs colour for full impact…

  • The likely situation is someone saw the parcels a couple of times and then decided they were comfortable to actually steal from it. Could be school kids, anyone really. Super creepy option is that maybe the responders recognized your house from marketplace pictures and decided to have look. They checked when you were at work and may have used that to give them an opening. Maybe they were at the house at 1pm and were confirming you weren't there?

  • I know you didn't ask for recommendations, but have you thought about a larger box where parcels go in but can't be retrieved without a key?

  • +3

    It does feel like too much of a coincidence especially considering they deleted themselves from the chat and may have blocked you. Odd behaviour if a buyer that just changed their mind.

  • I’m going to ignore everything but that glorious sketch. You have set the bar.

  • Probably a coincidence. Maybe a security camera directed go the letter box is in order. At least this way you can probably partly workout the mystery.

    Although online shopping is convenient there are inherent risks. Sometimes it's still best to go to a shop if you can even if you have to pay more. Understand it's not always possible if not local.

    For once DHL dropped off my item behind our pillar, so it couldn't be seen from the street, but if anyone passing had the opportunity to go up to porch and see it they could have taien it.

    Alot of ppl get their items sent to work. I don't think this is really ideal.

    By the way stealing someone mail is not cool.

  • With a plot like this, you need to ask Monsieur Poirot.

  • Since they have your address, they could come at anytime if they intended to break in
    It wouldn't make sense to do so in such a narrow timeframe (less than 40 minutes)
    It's a bit of odd behaviour to delete the chat and block you but maybe they're embarrassed or something for changing their mind at the last minute and don't want to confront you.

  • Get a free parcel locker. You have a thief in the area, and also it is suspicious that the buyer blocked you. but you cant prove anything. Always risky to give out your address. I just had to delete a post on youtube about the Israel crisis because its in my real name and feelings are running high

  • Go look at the other offer… could be yours

  • I don’t give my actual street number until pick up time. I give the street name and say I’ll give number when they get there or very close, so that I’m home when they come. Could have very well been the marketplace person, especially since they left the conversation. Could easily have been a passerby too.

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