Last night I went to buy 2 of my favourite Deli Chips which would have saved me $4, but they were out of stock. So I asked for a raincheck and they said we dont do that anymore. It was then too late to go to another store as the specials ended at midnight. So my food plan and budget was ruined for the week. So I am just letting you know dont leave it til the last day or you will miss out
You are lucky. From what I have been told by my local Woolworths, they have stopped doing rainchecks for a while now, since last year I think. My local Coles still does it.
actually, you are right it has been ended.
maybe my store is using it discretion in allowing rainchecks
FYI already mentioned in the 'no change of mind' returns policy update thread.
I got one at Coles recently
interesting since covid both rainchecks and returns have stopped at both stores.
returns if non vegetable tend to require discussion.
interesting since covid both rainchecks and returns have stopped at both stores
Incorrect.
Coles still provide rainchecks for any OOS special items.
I got a big tip for you.
You could've gone home and ordered it online. (Min $30 easy enough)
Woolies website rollover is mega convenient into the early hours.
Can't say the same about Coles.
so all orders are free delivery then now? if they're not whats your point?
Don't they have click and collect?
@cheesecactus: 2 trips - extra time and money - because yanks are just greedy and because our yank government just varies federal laws when it suits yank companies.
@2024: 'The attention being given to possible covert influence being exercised by China in Australia shouldn’t distract us from recognising that very overt foreign influence now occurs through investment.
Right now, US corporations eclipse everyone else in their ability to influence our politics through their investments in Australian stocks.
Using company ownership data from Bloomberg, I analysed the ownership of Australia’s 20 biggest companies a few days after the 2019 federal election in May. Of those 20, 15 were majority-owned by US-based investors. Three more were at least 25 per cent US-owned.
According to my analysis, all four of our big banks are majority-owned by American investors. The Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the nation’s biggest company, is more than 60 per cent owned by American-based investors.
So too are Woolworths and Rio Tinto. BHP, once known as “the Big Australian”, is 73 per cent owned by American-based investors.'
Maybe you think au on a web address means its australian owned?
Why do you think our american policies are unrelated to american ownership of australia?
Do you really think taxpayers money went to australians?
@petry: As far as I'm aware, only about 23% of Woolworths Group is owned by institutional investors but feel free to post your analysis here demonstrating that they are a "yank company".
@BestofOZB: your both funny
'The attention being given to possible covert influence being exercised by China in Australia shouldn’t distract us from recognising that very overt foreign influence now occurs through investment.
Right now, US corporations eclipse everyone else in their ability to influence our politics through their investments in Australian stocks.
Using company ownership data from Bloomberg, I analysed the ownership of Australia’s 20 biggest companies a few days after the 2019 federal election in May. Of those 20, 15 were majority-owned by US-based investors. Three more were at least 25 per cent US-owned.
According to my analysis, all four of our big banks are majority-owned by American investors. The Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the nation’s biggest company, is more than 60 per cent owned by American-based investors.
So too are Woolworths and Rio Tinto. BHP, once known as “the Big Australian”, is 73 per cent owned by American-based investors.'
thats an online quote from one of ozbargains favourite sources - see the quote marks.
you just make up your own stuff and then accuse a quote of being mine - how hypocritically funny is that?
@petry: If you're quoting someone, it's customary to provide the source. I assumed you were just quoting yourself from one of your other comments as you clearly enjoy repeating yourself.
How much of Woolworths Group do you think is American owned? How did you confirm your information?
I can both count and read. Maybe you're just rude?
@dazweeja: ok you are rude - besides being deliberately rude and ignoring quote marks, and making up your own fake facts, why on earth would anyone want to do work for you.
you know overseas investors own woolys and the banks, you wanna pretend otherwise - well just carry on.
you won't use google to satisfy yourself, because you don't want to
loads of sites list the same facts like https://www.smartcompany.com.au/finance/economy/chinese-us-i…
try this 'The top four debtors to the U.S. are all part of the British Commonwealth. For instance, Australia owes $157 billion to the U.S. The country’s debt is large enough to warrant a warning from an investment firm, which claimed that the government’s borrowing for consumption is a “ticking time bomb.”
play that fiddle, watch it burn. slave state - fact
you are rude
Read my initial comment and then your response again.
making up your own fake facts
I didn't make up my own facts. I googled it but wasn't entirely confident as to how accurate the source was so qualified my statement with, "as far as I am aware" and asked you to support your claim that Woolworths is a "yank company". This was my source by the way.
you won't use google to satisfy yourself
You used the quote, you reference it. That how quoting works. You don't just put something in quotation marks and expect someone reading it to find the source. The source might not be credible, and in this case it's outright wrong. I know this because I have now downloaded the 2020 annual report.
The top shareholder in Woolworths Group is HSBC Custody Nominees at 25.79%. That's a subsidiary of a British bank - not American - but they are merely custodians so the actual investors could be anyone. No doubt a lot of them are overseas institutional investors but it's impossible to say who they are or where they are based.
The next four shareholders comprising a further 33.32% - JP Morgan, Citicorp, BNP Paribas, National Nominees/NAB - are also custodians. The first two are US companies (BNP is French, and the other Australia) but they are custodians - they can't vote, they only hold shares on behalf of others. In this case, those four are primarily custodians for the big Australian super funds. 36.4% are small investors (less than 100,00 shares).
The only two US companies that have indicated that they are substantial shareholders are Vanguard and BlackRock through their ETFs (12.44% in total). They don't vote but do have the ability.
So the only way you get to 60% is if you lump British, French, Australian and US subsidiaries together and pretend that those companies are all based in the US and are not custodians for the actual investors which are entities like Australian super funds.
I reject your assertion that Woolworths Group is a "yank company". If I'm wrong, tell me the actual US companies that own Woolworths and what percentage of shares that they own.
Sources:
https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/icms_docs/195794_annual-r…
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/andrew-leigh-slips-u…
@dazweeja: its not me thats making the claim mate - its multiple online financial sources - so you can forget the personal attacks on my credibility, which is where you started from.
and you are deliberately rude in your initial statement
finally while you are trying to magic away facts you forgot
'The top four debtors to the U.S. are all part of the British Commonwealth. For instance, Australia owes $157 billion to the U.S. The country’s debt is large enough to warrant a warning from an investment firm, which claimed that the government’s borrowing for consumption is a “ticking time bomb.”
its a lot more now…
@petry: Of course it was you making the claim that Woolworths was a "yank company". And of course I started with asking you to support your claim because it was so obviously wrong. It's not unreasonable or a personal attack to ask someone to support their claims. If you haven't verified that it's true, don't say it. Otherwise you're just spreading misinformation. Or if you made a mistake - which we all do - just say that.
Woolworths is not owned by Americans, controlled by Americans, and the board is not hired or fired by Americans.The publicly-available information bears this out.
And I couldn't care less about Australia's debt to the US. That has nothing to do with Woolworths being a "yank company" or not.
@dazweeja: you have not produced anything that proves all the multiple online statements and reports regarding woolworths overseas ownership as being factually incorrect.
You asked for links and got them - you refuse to google it even.
You want to pretend that an all australian companies are owned by australains despite all the facts to the contrary.
You are abusive and spread your opinions as facts like way 2 many others.
and you don't care about Australia because you care nothing for its financial predicament.
you have not produced anything that proves all the multiple online statements and reports regarding woolworths overseas ownership as being factually incorrect
I have actually. Just like your article, I looked at the ownership data and found it is similar to most of the large companies on the ASX. The major shareholder is HSBC Custody Nominees and the next four (JP Morgan, Citicorp, BNP Paribas, National Nominees/NAB) are primarily custodians for the Australian super funds. You can easily find out who the custodian is for your super fund if you're interested. AustralianSuper uses JP Morgan, Hostplus uses Citicorp, etc. By the way, your claim is US ownership, not overseas ownership. Where is the evidence to support that?
You asked for links and got them
You gave me a link, I read it, and it's a load of crap. It didn't provide any additional information compared to the annual report - which is a legal document - and then makes a wild, unsubstantiated claim that these companies are US owned. What is it about that article that makes you think it's correct?
you refuse to google it even
Sure I have. There is no evidence that Woolworths is owned by US companies. If there was, you could just name who these US investors are that own Woolworths but you can't. And if you can't, why are you claiming that it's true?
You want to pretend that an all australian companies are owned by australains despite all the facts to the contrary
I absolutely do not make that claim.
You are abusive
Because I'm asking you to support your claim with actual evidence (names of US investors and percentage of shares owned for example) and all you can come up with is, "I read it on the internet"?
spread your opinions as facts
What opinion have I passed off as fact? What facts have you given that contradict mine?
and you don't care about Australia because you care nothing for its financial predicament
I don't care about that in the context of this discussion because it's not relevant. I'm confident you couldn't tell me how much of the $157bn is government debt and how much is private debt so what's the point in trying to discuss that subject with you?
@dazweeja: your reading skills seem limited by your ability to accept the words printed…
'According to my analysis, all four of our big banks are majority-owned by American investors. The Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the nation’s biggest company, is more than 60% owned by American-based investors.
So too are Woolworths and Rio Tinto. BHP, once known as ‘The Big Australian’, is 73% owned by American-based investors.'
links on the page 'american- based investors'
and you wrote - don't care how much Australia is in debt - meaning you don't care about the Australian economy fundamentals.
'By June 2024, Australia’s gross debt is expected to reach an eye-watering $1.138 trillion, with net debt peaking that year at $966.2 billion – equating to 36 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP).
Treasury forecasts gross debt will stabilise at 55 per cent of GDP over the medium term.'
@capslock janitor: 'I got a big tip for you' - both stores put up official signs up stating no rainchecks or returns
@petry: Cool story bro….OP talks about Chips and you talk about China….you have plenty of time on your hands.
thats an online quote from one of ozbargains favourite sources - see the quote marks.
If it’s out of stock you still wouldn’t get it the item. They would simply credit you the amount to use next time or provide a refund.
the majority of things aren't actually out of stock, especially something as commons as a popular brand of chips. they just haven't been stocked onto shelves yet.
@cathole: ohhh someone who sees chips when standing in front of an empty space without any staff inquiry… which covid mutation will kill most of us pray tell?
So my food plan and budget was ruined for the week.
If your budget was ruined by $4, then you may have other issues
Or you could go without 1 bag of chips for a week.
which is why I suggested just getting 1 bag of chips. Even people on benefits have better things to spend their money on.
Chips are not an essential food. If it was meat or bread or ingredients to cook dinner then sure. But if you can't afford chips it won't kill you to go without until they're on special again. Or even just buy a cheaper brand.
Chips are not an essential food
Well that is debatable.
Bread is not an essential food either.
@Quantumcat: From your source:
A staple food… is a food that is:
- eaten routinely ✔️
- and in such quantities that it constitutes a dominant portion of a standard diet for a given people, ✔️
- supplying a large part of energy needs ✔️
- and generally forming a significant proportion of the intake of other nutrients as well. ✖️
But neither is bread. No nutrients in bread. So either both are staple foods or neither of them are.
@wisdomtooth: First line of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread
Bread is a staple food prepared from a dough of flour and water, usually by baking.
@wisdomtooth: Bread has no nutrients? It's a primary source of carbohydrates, which is why it has been a staple of many cultures since humans basically began to process food.
@Harold Halfprice: Carbs aren't essential nutrients:
In the case of humans, there are nine amino acids, two fatty acids, thirteen vitamins and fifteen minerals that are considered essential nutrients.1
It's a staple in many agri-cultures bc it's cheap fuel. So is candy in industrial cultures.
Chipponi JX, Bleier JC, Santi MT, Rudman D (May 1982). "Deficiencies of essential and conditionally essential nutrients". The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 35 (5 Suppl): 1112–6. doi:10.1093/ajcn/35.5.1112. PMID:6805293. ↩
But neither is bread. No nutrients in bread. So either both are staple foods or neither of them are.
That is what you wrote buddy. You said bread has no nutrients. Carbs are a pretty significant nutrient, whether they are physiologically essential or not.
Are you seriously trying to argue that bread is not a staple food?
…which would have saved me $4 …. So my food plan and budget was ruined for the week.
I wasn't sure what to say.
…and then I saw the OP's username!
hellobobbified :)
🤣🤣
hellobobbified2013
FTFY :-)
Putting hello in front of everyone's user names would have been an epic April first joke.
I think you misread OP’s username.
It could be Hell OP Am 2019
I thought it was tightarse, I was pleasantly surprised.
It is a tightarse, but not the tightarse!
When covid started our local one basically said due to covid we aren't doing them anymore. When I worked night shift I was surprised that not many people knew about it if a product was out of stock
because both stores put up official signs up stating no rainchecks or returns
Food plan and budget was ruined over $4 saving on some bags of chips? Send me your PayPal, Pam, and I’ll send you the $4 to put you back on track…
I'm in for $4, too.
Running Total $8 in the GoFundPamsChips account
Pam will be swimming in chips soon, Scrooge McDuck style.
Hope she doesn’t lose her key in there…
I am in for a Pamcoin when it is created.
Get you money for nothin', and the chips for free
these ideas made hellopam2019 my kind of woman
Maybe sell some of your hoard of facemasks Pam and then you can pay full price for your chips.
That’s why Pam has no money and needs to budget her chips down to the last dollar. Bought big into the face mask boom of 2020 and the market crashed. Now she has to HODL her masks…
Diamond hands, Pam… diamond hands 💎🙌
my boyfriend paid for those. he will pay for the chips too
We will build a bag of chips and make Pam's boyfriend pay for it!
#MOGA
ouch
Both our Coles and Woolies still do them.
Maybe you should move to another suburb to save $4…
if I hadnt left it til the last minute I would have gone to another store
Well now you can just go to the other store in the first place…
So I am just letting you know dont leave it til the last day or you will miss out
You are like a year too late with this PSA.
Woolies stopped rainchecks soon after the COVID hoarding started.
Isn't the whole OzB mantra, not leave it until last minute? Alway go buy within 5mins of a deal post… otherwise 😢 OOS or Broden.
Been long time….
would have saved me $4,
So my food plan and budget was ruined for the week
Your budget is ruined over $4 ?
You must be new around here ;)
My local Woolies told me they stopped doing it because of Covid.
I thought it was just my store.
I used to love market day with foodland
If they had cheap meat I used to buy in bulk and divide it up and put in the freezer
U could have ordered online
They used covid as the excuse not to issue rain checks anymore. Now that covid has stopped, they are still using that bullshit excuse.
covid hasn’t stopped.
Yes it has. In Australia it's stopped.
No it isn’t. We still see, periodic, outbreaks due to people bringing it in from overseas.
@try2bhelpful: His uncle probably shared an article on WeChat proving it has stopped in Australia. Hashtag serious
@avoidfullprice: WeChat lol. You have corrected me. It has eased in Australia, the raincheck policies along with other policies should also be eased in line with whats happening. If Woolworths wants to advertise in a catalogue they have a promotional line for sale, then they should make sure they have stock for it otherwise a rain check should be given.
Prior to covid, they hated giving rain checks out, I know this because I worked for them. Covid was the perfect excuse to stop that policy.
@iNeed2Pee: Not trying to be difficult, but people need to not get complacent. Frankly I don’t think anyone knows what the whole Covid thing will mean even after we have been vaccinated.
@try2bhelpful: No I agree. I was just pointing out some policies at Woolworths were always old fashioned. I still wear a mask where I can.
@iNeed2Pee: Good lad. I completely agree with you on the policies; some places have some weird ideas on customer service. Then again some customers are, really, problematic. We were in Coles the other day and the customer next to us started hitting one of the Coles staff. He then stole what he was purchasing and security took his picture and let him walk out the door. I think they were taking the picture to the cops. The staff guy seemed to be OK but there appears to be a lot of obnoxious pricks out there. I try to be respectful of the staff; they don’t set the policy.
Woolworths near me still do them.
Did one on Monday