Hi all, I am looking at investing in battery powered mower, line trimmer, blower and drill.
Currently looking at Ryobi and am not sure about going 36v or 18v. Am I correct to say that if I want to swap batteries between tools, I need to stick with either one? Ie. I can't swap between 36v and 18v batteries? How about 2.0/4.0/5.0Ah?
Thanks.
Fair enough! Don't know much about the Ryobis, if they have a range of 36v tools it may be ok but looks like that battery would be too heavy for hand tools.
I've got the 18V mower - if you dont have much grass and you keep it pretty short it does the job. But anytime your grass gets a bit thick, the mower will cut out trying to cut through it and you end up just scalping your lawn.
But yeah as above I'm pretty sure that the 36V just means 2 batteries.
EDIT: Apparently its not 2 batteries.
You can easily mow grass that's taller than the mower with the 18v. Pop a wheelie with it and push through the long grass and it cuts no issue unless the battery is flat. I do a full size residential block with mine but I did invest in a 9ah battery.
FWIW, they have a new brushless model that takes two 18v batteries. You can run it on one or put in two for a power boost and longer run time. It is around $600 though but if I had to buy one today, that'd be the one.
I've got the 18v line trimmer - same sort of deal as the mower, if you're trying to take waist high scrub grass down at ground level of course it won't work - work it down slow and it goes fine
But for goodness sake get yourself a second spool, running out of line half way through the job and having to wind line on sucks big time, but swapping in a prefilled spool is fine.
18V batteries are for 18V tools and same for the 36V ones..
how much lawn are you mowing?
Front and back I would say about 100 sqm
if you mow often, 18V shouldn't be a problem…
if you have multiple tools which means you would likely have multiple batteries..
i have 18V
mower
trimmer/edger
blower
hedge trimmer
grass sheers
1x 4amp and 1x amp..
i can do comfortably 80sqm
trim and edge - blow trimmings onto lawn - mow the lawn - then blow again…
36v and 18v are a difference range, not compatible - you can see the batteries sold separately as 36v or 18v.
18v x 2 batteries mower isn't a single 36v mower.
if you need the extra power, go with 36v, it costs more, but then you don't end up with 36v and 18v tools.
I have the 5ah 36v Ryobi and it works quite well, they do have other 36v tools, but not in a drill, nothing wrong with 18v Ryobi for the drill etc and 36v for the higher power requirements.
So if I am going with 36v, I won't be able to share batteries with the drills?
No.. but they have other 36v products, drill will need to be the 18v.
There is the 18v x 2 battery Steel deck Ozito, that should be pretty good, then you can be in the whole eco system.
Ryobi is making a new line of tools (and batteries), you may want to wait to invest in the platform.
Oh it's good to know as I am not really in a hurry … do you have more info about it?
you may want to wait
How long?
trying to find the article, but they said they wouldn't change for another 6-8 years or something! I could be wrong
Here's a link to the Australian site which is pretty sparse. Here's a link to a US hardware store with what I assume would come over. I'm not sure how much more powerful they are but I'm sure there's plenty of reviews.
but that's still the same battery ecosystem right?
edit: right, they have the HP batteries that give the brushsless tools a bit more grunt, you can still use the current batteries, but won't have the extra power from what I read.
In bunnings, you can only get the 9.0A HP battery the last time i checked.
Technically no, I believe to use the new tools at full power you need to have the new batteries too. Although they seem to be backwards compatible and I think you can still use older batteries but they'll be restricted.
So https://www.ryobi.com.au/products/details/18v-one-6-0ah-brus… uses the new batteries.
Not sure where to buy though? Doesn't seem that Bunnings has it.
Depends on your budget. I have the 18v range and it works fine. The brushless line trimmer is great, the mower works but wouldn't hurt to have more power. They've recently released a new brushless one that can operate on one or two 18v batteries and that's what I'd be buying today. You can then run other tools using the same batteries. Their 36v line you're basically limited to just a few of their garden tools.
Could you share a link for that mower with 2 18v batteries?
I was looking for this recently, but they don't stock it in bunnings anymore
https://www.ryobi.com.au/products/details/18v-one-6-0ah-brus…
Thanks … just found that in ryobi site.
Depends on the thickness of your grass. I have an ozito electric mower and it cuts out a lot when the grass gets long. If I could go back I'd buy a more expensive and more powerful model.
1- Depends on the size of your (front, side, back) yards.
2- Depends on the thickness of your grass.
3- Depends on your budget.
I have a medium-sized front+back yard. It is a bit thick grass. My budget is as-cheap-as-possible.
For my needs, it sucked. I got the 40V Aldi eMower, with 1x charger and 4x batteries so I can hot-swap them. Overall, the machine was not upto task (ran out of time and battery). I had a very poor experience the first time, but the lawn was grown at the time. I excused that, and tried again 1.5 weeks later, with a moderately short lawn. And basically again, it struggled and barely got the job done (left one small patch). After that a couple other experiences it wasn't improving so I ended up returning it. I made a rant about it a couple years ago.
FYI, got given another electric mower but with the cord. This one was cheaper, smaller, lighter… but it didn't struggle nearly as much. I think having the full 240V power makes a big difference compared to a battery unit. However, it is very annoying and even dangerous with the extension cable all around. I think petrol mowers are still the king, as much as I hate to cold crank them on, or breathe the smoke they output. In the future, I think I will give eMowers another try, but it all depends on the evolution of the battery technology (if we can significantly increase capacity, we can extend runtime and motor performance, and probably price too).
https://www.ryobi.com.au/products/details/18v-one-6-0ah-brus…
I would have gotten that but it didnt exist when I bought my 36v ryobi mower, and line trimmer and chainsaw-on-stick attachment for line trimmer.
I then separately bought 18v drill and impact driver.
The link provided is a 18v mower that can use TWO 18v batteries to "make 36v" and mow harder. Best of both worlds
I am happy with the 36v mower and trimmer.
just .. wish i didnt have to have distinct sets. dammit.
I am interested in this as pointed out by others in this thread. But not sure where to buy.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bunnings-unofficia…
… nevermind, the extension no longer works :(
Oh wow, what does the extension do? Does Bunnings have public API to their warehouse system?
In Australia you can only buy Ryobi at Bunnings. It's a new product and may not have made it out to all Bunnings as yet. If you're really keen ask at the special orders desk and see if they can get it sooner for you.
Thanks for the info.
If you are willing to spend a bit over the odds for the mower, I highly recommend the 'ECO' brand. 56 v, and it can be set lower than any of the other battery mowers on the market that I have seen/used (Ozito, ryobi, etc.) … Because of its unmatched 'power' (56 v) I find that it functions almost as well/'strongly' as a petrol mower re power; but with all the added advantages of a battery-operated tool (light weight, low noise, no pissing about with 'fuel' or spark plugs, push-button start-up, etc.). The ECO blower is also pretty awesome.
Re 'line trimmers' I use a remarkably cheap little Ozito thing that they call a 'grass trimmer'.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-pxc-18v-grass-trimmer-skin…
My only grievance with it is that it doesn't quite extend to the length I would like (I'm 6-foot tall, but it seems to be designed for peeps slightly shorter than that). The beauty of it is that is uses a remarkably robust little plastic 'blade', not a tedious 'string-type' arrangement. Pissing about 'winding string' every 5 minutes on other similar tools did my head in. For this reason, I strongly recommend moving to any type of plastic blade-type tool instead.
Re the drill, I have an Ozito one and a Ryobi one. They're both fine and have worked for years, but the Ozito one is a bit more compact, which means I can 'get into' tighter spots with it; which is useful.
So, to sum up … I suggest the ECO range for the mower and a blower, and the Ozito range for the 'grass trimmer' and the drill. Re the Ozito stuff, it comes with a 3-year warranty so keep your receipts, 'thrash those bad boys', and if they start to fail at any point in any demonstrable way within 3 years simply return them to Bunnings for a full refund (… then buy a nice new one with the money you got from the return; with a nice new 3-year warranty). If they don't fail within the 3 years, they are so cheap that they owe you nothing whatsoever anyways, even if/when they die some time subsequently down the track.
So investing in one ecosystem for the purpose of sharing batteries doesn't interest you? It is a genuine question because I was wondering if single ecosystem matters at all. Because I would imagine we will have a battery of each tool? Or that doesn't really the case?
Not the OP but it depends on what tools you want. If you are just wanting a drill and impact driver then a separate ecosystem isn't really an issue because the batteries that are optimal for drills (2ah,3ah,4ah) aren't great for larger garden equipment, you don't really want a 9ah battery on a drill as it just ends up too heavy and overbalanced. Because companies often offer great value drill,impact driver, charger and batteries combo then it can end up quite affordable to have a separate ecosystem for your drills to your garden equipment.
But if you are wanting to get circular saws,angle grinders, chainsaws etc then it makes sense to have 1 shared eco system as you will need large batteries for those tools and there is no point having large batteries for 2 separate eco systems as that gets expensive quite quickly.
What is Ryobi One+, as compared to the other Ryobi 18v that doesn't have One+ mark?
They're all One+. If you're looking at the Bunnings website they have some listed as One and some as One+ but that's just Bunnings poor website and stock control.
Being a bit of an idiot I have a 36v Ryobi mower and blower, 18v Ryobi blower, edger, light, router, 18 v AEG multi tool and light, 18v Ozito vacuum, pole trimmer, chainsaw, 18v Hitachi drill, blower, circ saw, planer, driver, lights, fan, grass trimmer, Aldi 18v silicon gun and probably a few I have forgot.
I wish I had settled on two systems let alone one…
IMO always but the best tool for the job. Only go for a system where it makes sense (which I admit is often for the typical home/DIY user). I have 5 different power tool brands currently.
For lawn mower nothing beats 4 strokes petrol engine, its powerful to run for atleast 90 minutes without any dramas and mowed down tall grass without any issues. I am using my petrol lawn mower for last 14 years and still kicking. you have to remember that battery will ween down over the time and if you dont use frequently and after 5 years you are not going to get replacement battery. same thing happens with my bosch drilling machine my battery fail to recharge after 6 years and went to bunning and bosch and they both said they dont stock similiary battery as technology has improved and i have to chuck my bosch drilling machine to bin.
5 years you are not going to get replacement battery.
Doesn't seem to be the case with Ryobi. They've stuck with the same housing design for must be close to 20 years now. Even the old blue nicad packs still fit and work with the current tools and vice versa. Obviously the new battery tech is better but they've deliberately maintained compatibility. That's why they still have the stick where others have moved to flush mounts.
Ya, had Ryobi One gear for over a decade and they just keep releasing more powerful battery packs in the same compatible form factor - they get the same power into smaller battery packs too - I have same size packs that are 2.4ah and 5ah from buying them 5yrs apart
Re:
'For lawn mower nothing beats 4 strokes petrol engine, …'
Erm, except when it comes to weight, noise, maintenance, running cost (which is totally free if you have solar panels on your roof), and emissions. In those numerous respects, everything 'beats' a petrol mower.
I bought the Bigger sized battery for the AEG mower and brush cutter. I cannot complain about the mower as it handles the long grass, and the brushcutter is as good if not better than my old petrol stihl. I’d recommend them to anyone
Go 5.0 Ah lasts longer
Also provides more power. As there are more batteries in parallel to increase the Ah it also means they can put out more current. Eg my 18v blower runs faster on 4ah battery than 2.5ah battery.
The Bosch push mower on Amazon is actually really good. That thing is a beast. Worth considering I think.
Does Ryobi have 36v batteries? I thought it would just be 2 x 18v. That is what my Aldi one is.
The different Ah batteries are interchangeable.