Gelatin or Collagen, The Best Quality Most Cost Effective Option, Questions

Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 12:24
Last edited 22/03/2021 - 14:32

The question: where and what to buy as a gelatine or collagen?..

The cheapest gelatine that I could find available in most retails is this https://www.mckenziesfoods.com.au/product/mckenzies-gelatine…

Around 37 dollars per kilo.

It is not as convenient to use as collagen as it does not dissolve in cold water or drinks and needs to be set in fridge for a couple of hours for the best taste.

What other collagen options do we have?

There is collagen from myprotein website https://au.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/collagen-protein/1… the pricing is a bit odd. The full price per kilo is $70. However, they regularly offer 30-40% discounts which brings it down close to the price of McKenzies gelatine, around $45 mark. Such a huge difference in price seems suspicious and raises questions about the actual value and pricing of the product, as well as quality. Is food supplement market controlled on a similar level as supermarket foods? There are some risks associated with animal sourced collagens, I assume this is why there is such a huge difference in pricing compared to, say, chemist options e.g. this https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/84760/nature-s-way-b… - $190 per kilo!

Marine collagen is usually a lot more expensive but is considered healthier. However, there are risks associated with marine collagen as well, as it is taken from fish which may contain heavy metals.

Another very odd option to source collagen would be to buy gelatin candy, e.g. Haribo GoldBears for $8 per kilo. Those contain around 70% sugar and 30 percent gelatin. So pure gelatin cost is about $24 and comes in a very tasty and convenient form, I read it is a choice for some athletes. But the problem with that is the sugar. So, if you do not eat any "added" sugar at all it could work, but is really not the best for most.

Has anyone else done a market research on gelatine or collagen?

PS a sidenote - gelatine allows to make tasty snacks such as a mix of lemon juice gelly. Collagen usually does not have a taste of its own so you would just take it with food similar to tablets. (I am not considering pre-mixed "protein shake style" options.)

PPS Most of the comments below show people's frustration about the fact that I have mentioned some brands and provided some links. The purpose of the post is to find a good gelatine or collagen option on the market. Could frustrated people explain how we do it without mentioning any names or brands and where I could collect my fee?

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Comments

  • dasher86 on 22/03/2021 - 12:34

    It is a well known fact that there are great benefits to the food supplements containing gelatine or collagen especially for older people and in case of a non-perfect diet. This is not the subject of discussion so I would prefer to leave this in brackets.

    and you post this as the first line of your forum post?
    Are you sure you've been a member since 2015?

  • c64 on 22/03/2021 - 12:39
    +1

    au.iherb.com might have some

    or you could eat more horse

  • bdl on 22/03/2021 - 12:43
    -1

    (This is not the subject of discussion so I would prefer to leave this in brackets.)

  • Quantumcat on 22/03/2021 - 13:14
    -1

    Have you been paid to post this? Was about to report as spam but it seems like you are a real member of the site

    • Quantumcat on 22/03/2021 - 14:18

      PPS Most of the comments below show people's frustration about the fact that I have mentioned some brands and provided some links. The purpose of the post is to find a good gelatine or collagen option on the market. Could frustrated people explain how we do it without mentioning any names or brands and where I could collect my fee?

      Because you wrote this:

      It is a well known fact that there are great benefits to the food supplements containing gelatine or collagen especially for older people and in case of a non-perfect diet.

      Which sounds exactly like spam robots that post on abandoned blogs

      • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 14:36
        +1

        It doesn't bear anything useful to the subject discussion was more of an introduction, so I removed it so that it does not trigger the most impressible members.

        However, it was just stating the obvious, I thought everyone was aware of this anyway. Just to eliminate the questions of why I need gelatin or collagen.

  • kanmen on 22/03/2021 - 14:02
    +1

    I use the Evolve Collagen

    • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 14:10

      Thanks, and why this particular one?

      • kanmen on 22/03/2021 - 14:46

        Heard good things about it. I've only tried the chocolate one but it's good to have in a cup of milk once a day, preferably if you've exercised.

        • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 14:52

          It is about 40% more expensive than the myprotein option, hard to justify on the basis that someone talked good about it.

          • kanmen on 22/03/2021 - 15:31

            @Musiclover: Yeah it is, although I typically buy it on sale/special as well. The myprotein one might be worth a try though!

  • Reion on 22/03/2021 - 14:37
    +2

    Probably better off just buying glycine (~$35/kg), the other few proteins you usually get enough of anyway. Dissolves in water pretty easily and is sweet.

    • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 14:45

      Seems like a great idea, however https://www.marksdailyapple.com/dear-mark-glycine-as-collage…

      "And as far as the evidence so far available suggests, eating the amino acids that make up collagen separately doesn’t have the same effect on those collagenous tissues as eating them together in a collagenous matrix."
      So, unfortunately, not an option.

      • buckster on 22/03/2021 - 15:35

        Why would it make a difference, since the collagen itself is broken down into the amino acids etc by the stomach?

        • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 15:37

          If you want to know why, read the article in full.

          • buckster on 22/03/2021 - 15:43

            @Musiclover: Except said evidence is not presented at all in that article.

            • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 15:55

              @buckster: It is, but I am not going to spoon feed you to prove the point, no time for it.

              • buckster on 22/03/2021 - 20:58

                @Musiclover: Nope, all he says it that mouse studies showed that ingesting collagen showed a change in their femurs and knees. There is absolutely no comparisons offered to what effects there may be from ingesting the precursor proteins, even though it is claimed they are not the same.

                There is plenty of evidence that suggests that collagen is broken down into it's precursor proteins from the action of our digestive tracts (meaning any significant difference in benefit would be illogical). I won't show the studies to you as obviously you don't like the idea of spoon feeding.

                • Musiclover on 22/03/2021 - 21:03

                  @buckster: I stick my finger into a random place in the article:

                  "In one study, rats with osteoporosis ate collagen hydrolysate that scientists had marked with a radioactive signature to allow them to track its course through the body. It survived the digestive tract intact, made it into the blood, and accumulate in the kidneys. By day 14, the rats’ thigh bones had gotten stronger and denser with more organic matter and less water content."

  • Dual on 22/03/2021 - 15:31

    Make bone broth, eat chicken feet and pig trotters.

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