Intel unveiled its full range of 11th-generation desktop processors today, codenamed Rocket Lake S, which are due to debut on March 30th, 2021.
Intel 11th-Gen Desktop Processors
RichardL on 17/03/2021 - 12:13
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Last edited 17/03/2021 - 12:25
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Intel is still using that 14nm process since 2014…
Between AMD and Apple, Intel's market relevance is increasingly getting squeezed out.
The American behemoth's day's are numbered methinks. I still don't understand how the board can sit there and happily say that after 7 years of questionable innovation and increased competition they still have a viable business model.
They are just going through their Pentium 4 netburst phase. They'll find their Conroe (core 2 duo). Then they might just do a Cyrix on us.
The American behemoth's day's are numbered methinks. I still don't understand how the board can sit there and happily say that after 7 years of questionable innovation and increased competition they still have a viable business model.
I don't know why everyone keeps dancing on the grave of Intel. Let's not forget that AMD was practically uncompetitive for almost a decade from 2008 to 2017 until the release of Ryzen. Similarly Intel was largely uncompetitive from the the end of the P3 era until Conroe.
FWIW, Intel's current position is actually not as bad AMD's position back in the early 2010s. At least Intel is keeping up and their 10th gen prices are pretty decent. The 10700KF for $380 this morning is a fantastic price given AMD is still charging over $600 for their 5800X and around $450 for the slower 3700X.
I hope you know that this was partly due to Intel being dodgy, forcing AMD out of the market prior to 2008.
Athlon 64 and X2 was a success, but Intel had agreements with OEMS to buy them instead. With crap sales and no budget for R&D for AMD, it's no surprise their products were not competitive at all. Intel was dancing away with profits and giving us their tiny performance increments for years, while AMD was struggling and had to survive with little budget.
Don't get me wrong, monopoly is crap and competition is great for consumers.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/307409-intel-is-still-…
@wombok2: I don't get this whole narrative of "big bad" Intel and "good little guy" AMD.
Both Intel and AMD are dodgy, want to dance away with profits and are in the market to push their competitor out and make it difficult for them to survive.
AMD is not benevolent - they saw a market opportunity, seized it and are rewarded for it. In case you thought AMD was the "good guy", they're charging $469 RRP for the 5600X, which is only incrementally faster than the 8700K which was $508 three years ago, and that's if you can get the 5600X at RRP. (https://web.archive.org/web/20180314000047/msy.com.au/Parts/…)
The performance gain from a 8700K to 5600X at practically the same price is hardly the leaps and bounds in performance you're citing here. FWIW, I'm not defending Intel, it's not like they've come up with anything better, but AMD has done exactly what Intel has done previously - increased prices as the market leader and charge huge premiums whilst slowing down innovation (i.e. Zen 2 to Zen 3 is a much smaller change than Zen to Zen 2).
@p1 ama: Neither companies are charities, therefore profits are expected. Yes AMD did gave a price hike, but did anyone complain about Intel when AMD released the first 8 core for $469 back in 2017?
Intel hasn't done anything amazing while dominating the market. AMD did this while being the underdog, didn't have to force OEMs with dodgy practises and didn't make you change motherboard so often. that's the difference.
Don't get me wrong, Intel was great, but they fell asleep. Let's see their comeback like Core 2 Duo or when they get their 10nm node together.
Intel's current position is actually not as bad AMD's position back in the early 2010s
Intel is a big ship and it's been going in wrong direction for quite some time. It'll take 5-10 years to correct and time might not be in their side. Right now intel is not only fighting AMD, the entire x86 architecture is under big threat from arm.
Where are the bargains
Bargains? At this time? Really? I'm thanking my lucky stars I got the 5900x late last year.
They all do.
Yep, no surprises thankfully I guess, not really much value at RRP either.
For those interested multiple reviews of the i7-11700K have already been posted (because retail stock was already available to purchase in early March, well before the official 30/3/2021 release date). Here is one example from Anandtech the results were not great for a new microarchitecture.
The latest microcode update improved things but not too significantly
If they come in at the right price on sale they might still be a decent choice though. AMD is ahead in performance and miles ahead in efficiency though