New Home Camera + Alarm System

DiscoJango on 17/02/2021 - 17:50
Last edited 18/02/2021 - 12:58 by 1 other user

In the process of building a new house, currently at frame stage. Builder didnt include an alarm or camera system as part of the build, so im thinking now is a good time to get one installed, before the plaster goes up

Google search is overwhelming, are there any recommendations on:

1. A camera system. 3 external camera should be enough. At least 30 days worth of recording.
2. An internal alarm system with movement sensors. Internal cameras not required. Back to base not required.

Looking for something that i can buy from a shop locally (eg: not ali express) as i need it in the next few days

Thanks!

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  Summoner on 17/02/2021 - 18:04

  Depends on what you want. I prefer POE cameras, if you decide with same, you only need to run an ethernet cable to each camera for video, audio, and power.
  Then you will need an NVR with hard drive. The size of the HDD depends on the quality of the camera. For example, I have 5 x 6mp cameras with 6TB HDD gives me about 15 days of recording.
  If you have chosen to add data in your new home, you may wish to add more ports for the cameras in your data closet if that is where you wish to install your NVR.
  I have dahua cameras with NVR, but after reading some stories about security risks, I'm not sure if I can recommend this. Anyway, I'm not security expert, as users point of view, I like this system.

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    UltimateAI on 17/02/2021 - 22:12

    Pretty easy to keep off your main network though and ensure they don't have internet acces.

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  No Username on 17/02/2021 - 18:14

  +1

  For cameras go with Swann (Cheapest), Bosch, Samsung or Unifi. They're more expensive but are more secure and have better support. Vulnerabilities are fixed quick and don't contain malicious backdoors like those found in cheap CCTV from China.

  For Internal Alarm go with the Bosch 2000 or 3000 if you want extra upgraded accessories like RF Key Fobs. You could also use the extra outputs to fire off smart IOT devices using a Raspberry Pi Zero.

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    DiscoJango on 18/02/2021 - 19:37

    Thanks for that, my googling led me to the bosch 2000 with the touch panel, which appears to be a good unit. Might couple it with a swann 4 thermal camera system.

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  Zen on 17/02/2021 - 23:05

  +1

  I went with 6mp Hikvision camera's paired with NVR and POE.

  As for internal alarm, I decided to go WIFI and a battery powered system so I can deploy it wherever I want, and it is part of my home automation setup.

  I went for Tuya based PIR sensors. They can be placed literally anywhere (eg inside drawer and provide alert/alarm when it's open) Window and door sensors to provide a log whenever it's accessed or alert when it's left opened when you turn on the alarm etc. The most expensive part of these setup is ongoing battery cost as some devices only take button batteries and there isn't a rechargeable alternative for those. But can't beat the ease and speed to set these devices up.

  I ran my own ethernet cable for POE cameras after framing stage and I regretted running through the internal walls, it's not really necessary and a waste of cable length too. It's not as tidy to run it over the roof, but actually the most efficient way and you can still keep it tidy. If you intend to have them sticking out on external brick wall, buy some conduit and make sure you mark it with an obvious spray marker with a big X and arrow pointing at it and label [V] and let the bricklayers know. If you want them positioned at the eaves, that's a lot easier and just drill a hole out after the built.

  That's my 2c.

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    endotherm on 18/02/2021 - 01:03

    …some devices only take button batteries and there isn't a rechargeable alternative for those.

    Wrong. Google "rechargeable button battery".

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  AndyC1 on 18/02/2021 - 09:17

  You can get the sparky to wire up the place and then latter decide on which system to go with. While you are at it also wire the place up with CAT5E cabling and figure out where the comms cabinet will be and ensure that NBN cabling is pulled through to that room and that it has enough power points and also has enough shelf's for the NBN, NVR and potentially another modem/wifi extender.

  The only thing you need to decide NOW is if you are going to get POE camera's or not and if not then you will also need to run power cables to them. IMHO I would wire up for POE camera's as they are very common and save allot on cabling.

  You do NOT need CAT6 cables, unless you have more money than sense. CAT5E supports 1GBit network if it is wired up correctly.

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  Archi on 18/02/2021 - 09:47

  +1

  in my view is an alarm system with external sensors are more useful, if the conditions and layout permits.

  lets say for example the house is locked up and there is no-one home. and you have internal sensors.

  in order for that alarm to trigger and sound something at your house needs to be broken or the intruder is inside your home.
  - something is broken like a window or sliding door.
  - doesn't stop the intruder from snatching whatever they can see and running like a laptop on the table.
  - pay to fix whatever is broken
  - increase in insurance premium if you make a claim. large glass sliding doors aren't cheap

  same scenario with sensor outside
  - alarm triggers when intruder is at the door.
  - not likely anything is broken

  deterring (preventing) something from happening in my opinion is better then deal with it when something does.

  • i have a camera in the back facing the rear sliding door, as well as a motion sensor. both are under cover in the alfresco.
  • i have a ring door bell at the front. as well as a camera facing the driveway and and entry
  • the other easy entry point is garage, that's where i have an internal sensor.
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  DiscoJango on 18/02/2021 - 19:38

  Thanks guys, much appreciated. I have decided to go with the bosch 2000 series touch panel alarm + a swann 4 camera system. Lets see if the builder is willing to play ball and install them!

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    No Username on 18/02/2021 - 23:55

    +1

    If he doesn't then you can always DIY. Very easy to do. Only downside is that new houses have metal roof which is a pain to fetch cables. If you need help wiring or programming just PM me. Also get the b426-m module for the Bosch 2000. As you'll get notification alerts of a break in and allows you to programs the 2000 remotely as well and arm and disarm from your phone.

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      DiscoJango on 19/02/2021 - 14:15

      Will do, thanks for the help, appreciate it!