eBay Buyer Retaliates after I Refuse to Falsely Declare Lower Item Value?

Howdy folks!

I'm hoping you might be able to offer your collective wisdom and insight into a recent eBay situation I've encountered.

I recently sold an item to a US buyer who, when paying, asked me to state a lower value on the customs declaration. I get that he wanted to minimise his customs/import taxes to save himself a few dollars. I thanked him for paying promptly but politely informed him that I wouldn't submit a false declaration. Moral/ethical reasons aside, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for me to do that if he turned out to be a scammer and claimed that he never received the item. I'd then have to repay him the full cost of the item, even though the insurance cover would only be for the declared value (and if I didn't use insurance, I'd be out of pocket for the full value completely). I ended up paying for the insurance myself just to be on the safe side, and I didn't mind doing that, given the value of the item ($250).

Anyway, he didn't respond to my message but that's fine. Most buyers don't respond after I've told them I'll be posting the item they've bought shortly, which I did, the next day after receiving payment.

Well, he received the item after a couple of weeks and duly left me negative feedback - the first such feedback I've received in fifteen years of being on eBay. His only comments were that the item had the worst packaging he'd ever seen. Here's the thing: the item was sent in its original packaging which I then posted in a padded envelope, sealed and stapled, which was more than adequate for the item. Had I posted it in a bigger box, his postage costs would've been higher too so I was trying to keep the costs low.

After seeing the feedback, I actually got in touch with eBay and was encouraged to submit a request for the feedback to be removed. Incredibly, they responded within a day….but basically told me to suck it. They claimed that the feedback, whilst being disappointing to me, is a buyer's way of expressing their views on their buying experience…blah blah blah…and that they wouldn't remove it. There's nothing constructive in the feedback, the item wasn't damaged (as far as I'm aware, otherwise he would've surely raised a claim) and the item was sent in suitable packaging - its original case, in a bubble wrapped envelope, as I said. I communicated clearly with the buyer. And even with Covid affecting deliveries globally, the buyer received the item quickly. All that was apparently worth nothing to this individual.

Do you think the buyer has intentionally provided negative feedback as retaliation for me not complying with his request for me to falsify the customs declaration?

Has anyone else experienced anything like this? If so, how would you go about resolving it or what have you done previously?

This just reeks of petty, childish payback or retaliation from the buyer because they didn't get their own way (and probably had to pay more for the item than they would've liked, due to the customs/import tax).

I look forward to your responses. Thanks!

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Comments

  • +8

    As a buyer I'm not going to be put off too much by one negative review out of many. The only thing you can do to 'win' this situation is to forget about it and to go back to your life without stressing about it.

    • +1

      Good counsel. I don't sell regularly and had a clean record up until this so it annoyed me (obviously, given the "essay" I wrote). I also find that in recent times, I've been dealing with more nuisance buyers, or potential buyers, than ever before. I've had numerous fake bidders, mega-lowball offers privately or just weird enquiries from people telling me hard luck stories in the hope of me offering a low BIN price or something. And I've found dealing with eBay Help CSRs directly to be pretty hit and miss. I've encountered lots of site bugs and problems with listings, which they still haven't fixed after a year or so. I'm a bit over the whole platform, to be honest. Anyway, I'm ranting again. Thanks for your reply - much appreciated.

    • +3

      How is this "woooooooooooosh"? 🤔

    • +1

      Yes. Obviously. :)

      I love how OzB brings out the diversity of thought in the community. But I do wonder what value exists with comments like yours. Couldn't you have just ignored the topic and moved on? Thankfully some people here provided more constructive responses. Thanks for your contribution though - I especially enjoyed the sound effect at the end. That was brilliant!

    • +2

      You don't even know when to use woosh, shut up.

  • +10

    Can you reply to his feedback?

    I've seen this done but never actually used the function myself.

    Then if future buyers investigate your negative feedback they will also see you constructive reply.

    Sorry Chuck. Item sent in original packaging plus extra bubble wrapped envelope. Confused emoji.

    • +1

      Yeah, I might end up doing this. Thanks.

    • +2

      Nah he should put "buyer wanted to commit fraud by asking me to put a lower value on the customs declaration". Then never sell to the US again.

  • +2

    If you don't get another neg for a year, your feedback score will go back to 100%. I wouldn't be too concerned.

    • Thank you! I wasn't aware of this so that's good to know.

  • +4

    You have the buyer’s address, American bikies.

    • Winner! :)

    • Sons of Anarchy or Mayans M.C look pretty effective.

  • +5

    Without sounding petty, reply to the feedback and suggest that this is retaliation because you wouldn't commit fraud on his behalf!

    • +1

      Yeah nah.
      The neg a feedback may not actually be some kind of petty retaliatory response but even it it was I wouldn't suggest it in a reply.
      Just respond with the facts - item was sent in original packaging with extra padded envelope and the item has not been reported as damaged. Any damage must've occurred in transit.

  • Reply to their feedback if it's pi**ed you off enough but IMO it's not worth lowering yourself to their level.

    I received a neg from a buyer once who stated that the batteries in an item I had sold them were flat. Seeing as it was a pair of earrings and definitely had no batteries in it I was going to follow it up with eBay but decided it wasn't worth the hassles and my time to bother.

    1 neg is no big deal and until a seller's feedback is lower than 99% I usually just ignore the odd few negatives.

  • +2

    I bet the eBay customer support person didn't even bother reading your request for feedback removal and replied you with a templated email. I understand it is your first neg in many years and that too was left unfairly but I would not loose sleep over it though. Negative feedback score resets after 12 months and if you believe having this neg will turn buyers off just sell few low value items and push it to the second page.

  • +6

    If you reply to their feedback, keep it professional and factual, because I've seen some sellers with accusatory, immature or snarky responses, which then puts me off way more than the negative feedback itself as I wouldn't want to deal with such a person in case things go wrong. Also, can you leave negative or neutral feedback to buyer?

    • +1

      Can't leave negative or neutral feedback, but you can put the details in your "positive" feedback in the hope a potential seller reads it.

  • Do you think the buyer has intentionally provided negative feedback as retaliation for me not complying with his request for me to falsify the customs declaration?

    Its postage….. Maybe the box got squashed in the padded bag on the way?

    Has anyone else experienced anything like this? If so, how would you go about resolving it or what have you done previously?

    Yeah once, buyer complained something trivial was missing, instead of contacting me, they just left neg feedback. Funny, if they contacted me, I could have fixed their issue. My first neg feedback on fleebay in 20 years!

    I sent them a message, saying hey next time contact me first and we could have worked something out, I would have sent you a replace, instead you left bad feedback.

    tl;dr yeah it happens, it'll be gone in 12 months. Don't worry.

  • A seller cannot leave negative feedback but feedback can be carefully worded in a negative manner but still counts as positive feedback.

    A seller can however leave a negative remark as a followup comment but it's not counted as negative feedback.

    • Oh good, I was going to leave a negative feedback on this seller who price jacked after I submitted an offer but feared getting a negative feedback in return. (I ended up buying at the original listed price via a second offer)

      • its been that way for 10 yrs.

  • +2

    When I buy items from ebay (not that common these days) I take a quick glance at the sellers recent reviews, especially the negatives. If I see the seller only has a very low % of negatives and those negatives have been replied to with a sensible response then I am happy to buy from them. Hopefully others will think the same and you won't have any issues OP

  • +2

    Ebay strikes again…..

    The whole feedback system is flawed.. has been since sellers couldnt tell their side of the argument.

    Same as online reviews, take em with a grain of salt these days.

  • You can give the buyer similar feedback for petty behaviour?

  • -1

    Give a very bad feedback for the buyer about wanting the goods illegally declared at a lower cost.

    He is a d*(k head, so give as good as you got.

  • +3

    Who cares, the buyer basically confirmed delivery of your item, what more could you want?

  • You can declare the item as a gift with a low value to help them out and still use the real amount in the insurance section. I do this all the time.

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