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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 + Gigabyte B450M $359 + Delivery @ Shopping Express

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 + Gigabyte B450M $359 + Delivery @ Shopping Express
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nocure on 01/02/2021 - 16:29 shoppingexpress.com.au (1052 clicks)
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.60 GHz 6 Cores AM4 CPU - $289 + Shipping

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 + Gigabyte B450M - $359 + Shipping
Motherboard cost around $70

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X + AsRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi Motherboard - $999 + Shipping

Below Ram prices are based on Combo Purchase with AMD CPU Or Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL16 DDR4 Desktop RAM Memory Kit - $119

G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz DDR4 Desktop Memory Kit - $269

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  • Alvin9 on 01/02/2021 - 16:50

    Hey,
    How do you get $269 on Trident ram kit?
    It’s stated $300 on website

    • soggyandugly on 01/02/2021 - 16:52
      +4

      Click the last link - discount only applies if you're buying one of the mobo and cpu combos

      • Rhuarcian on 01/02/2021 - 16:55
        +2

        And further to that, you can only buy 1 kit per bundle (adding 2 kits only discounts one automatically)

  • axlfan on 01/02/2021 - 19:38
    +1

    Great price for this combo.

    • notmaroun on 01/02/2021 - 19:43
      +15

      Hard disagree. That motherboard is barely worth $90, which means you're paying $270 for a 3600. Looking at the other 3600 deals on Ozbargain this is just about average, except you're stuck with the trashy mobo.

      • oranglama on 01/02/2021 - 20:02
        +2

        Whats the benefit of using the more expensive one if i dont overclock? Just want to use as is with 16gb of memory and 3 ssd, any benefit?

        • FrozenFred on 01/02/2021 - 20:18
          +3

          Benefits of a more expensive board (at this size) are mostly features. Extra 2 slots of ram, more sata ports, maybe inbuilt WiFi, m.2 slot for ssd (this possibly has one on the back but I didn't check). Other niceties like diagnostic LEDs, more fan headers, better voltage modules to handle better overclocking.

          For non overclocking, no frills. This board is fine.

          • oranglama on 01/02/2021 - 20:35
            +3

            @FrozenFred: Thanks alot, i dont need those features, happy that its not trashy, basic is more appropriate.

          • OMGJL on 01/02/2021 - 21:30
            +1

            @FrozenFred: We only pairing a r5 3600 with this board, with it's 4 phase VRM(1 high/2low FET), even without any VRM heatsink, the board could certainly stand static OC or PBO no problem as long as there's a back fan on the case.

            I see 2 RAM slot as a pro, as all B450 are 4 layer PCB which can't stand high RAM OC at all(talking about 2 dimm per channel or 1 dual rank dimm per channel), but with 2 RAM slot you can run dual rank kit higher than the 3600 IF limit(1900fclk).

            The board has 1 m.2 and 4 sata which is also a decent amount for a average user with 1ssd/ 1hdd and few left for future upgrade —- only thing I hate is the SATA port placement, you'd need to bend a few 90 degree SATA cable in order to insert a bigger GPU.

            Audio port is also poor-ish, but it would be fine with standard 2.1 headset anyway. The top PCIe 1x slot would fit a WiFi card nicely without clearance issue with GPU.

            • FrozenFred on 01/02/2021 - 21:44

              @OMGJL: Great info and detail! Actually have heard about the 4 dimm killing overclocking gains but never tried myself. It's great with your personal experience, will give others confidence with the board.

              I actually don't believe in overclocking too. Because processors are all made based on silicon qualities, the gains is minuscule for the double in power and heat. I buy what I need then undervolt to maximise efficiencies hehe. If it's not fast enough I upgrade and sell old parts

            • notmaroun on 02/02/2021 - 11:16

              @OMGJL: Looking at what this board uses (1 4C10N + 2 4C06N) I wouldn't trust it with anything higher than a 3600, even with downdraft cooling. This limits your upgrade options, and definitely limits your OC options. You'd have to push LLC or voltage higher than comfortable.

              Regarding RAM, I believe 2ch vs 4ch doesn't matter, as I've pushed 3800mhz regularly on B450 boards. This would also not be relevant here as it's pretty difficult to reliably push Zen 2 chips past 1800FCLK.

              The audio is likely Realtek's ALC887 or worse, and those chips are pretty noisy and interference prone.

              If you're not overclocking, sure. Maybe this is worth consideration. But it has limited upgrade options, limited expandability, an almost-overheating VRM… Aussie summers can be pretty hot.

              I'd say that if you have any desire at all to upgrade your system, from a value perspective a B550 board, while costing about $80 more, gives you a much more futureproof solution.

              The MSI B550-M Pro VDH Wifi is $189, but it comes with:

              • Inbuilt Wifi
              • A front panel USB-C header (albeit only at 3.2Gen1)
              • 2 M.2 Slots
              • PCI-E Gen 4 on the GPU and SSD
              • An extremely solid VRM that can handle a 5900X
              • A slightly better onboard audio experience

              Assuming the Wifi component is $50, you're left with a $139 motherboard that gives you a lot more options.

              • OMGJL on 02/02/2021 - 15:35

                @notmaroun:

                You'd have to push LLC or voltage higher than comfortable.

                Not when you pushing only a 3600 (or future when you change it to 5600). 4C06N under 85 degree C can output 23.7A with 1 sq-in pad/ 1oz Cu (I believe gigabyte using 2oz? which should be better than what it is), dual low side = 23.7*2 = 47.4A, assuming with 1.3v voltage you will get 61.62w output capability. 3600 isn't very power hungry in the first place, nor an average gaming user will max out the CPU with extreme condition. Remember this is under 85 degree C. and I did recommend to have a back fan mounted. (thermal adhesive + heatsink will be a good idea when powering 8 core though)

                I believe 2ch vs 4ch doesn't matter, as I've pushed 3800mhz regularly on B450 boards

                You sure about it? B450m Mortar Max Memory QVL listed highest 4 dimm support is 3733Mhz and that's with single side Micron RevJ (basically a rebrand 8Gbit RevE). What if I had Samsung B-Die (much more stressful on IMC), or I had some random garbage bin? If you say you can run 2 dimm on a 4 dimm motherboard, then the 2dimm motherboard will do better anyway, especially running dual rank dimms.

                If you running 4dimm, you might want to run TM5 with extreme profile, or Prime95 with large FFT to validate your OC.

                With Audio, I agreed it's basic, but with a 2.1 headset it's okay, or just buy a USB headset which basically most gaming headset is USB anyway.

                With regarding WiFi, MSY sells PCIe AC1200 WiFi for $29 regularly, I believe other store have similar stuff.

                So cost breakdown:

                B450m H: $75, WiFi $29 = $104 and it's "good enough" for a budget consumer.
                B550m VDH wifi: $175, which means spending extra $71.

                Consider all the bs shortage going on right now and less income for average consumer, I'd spend this $71 to make up for a better GPU or better SSD.

                also….. how likely will one buying a cheap b450 going to upgrade to a 5900x? as if you compare gaming performance only, 5600x will almost catch up 5900x .

                • notmaroun on 02/02/2021 - 19:30

                  @OMGJL: Back fan + heatsink is more trouble than just… a better VRM solution. The 3600 pushes 80W+ when you OC it. Stress testing an OC requires that you max out the CPU, and so it'll be pretty damn hard with that VRM to find a voltage+LLC combo that is stable without degrading the chip, or you'd just settle for less in the OC case.

                  You sure about it? B450m Mortar Max Memory QVL(msi.com) listed highest 4 dimm support is 3733Mhz and that's with single side Micron RevJ

                  I've certainly pushed 3800mhz on the Mortar Max. It's a motherboard I often work with. QVL is more of a guideline. I've done it Rev J, CJR, DJR, B-Die and A-Die. 4 slots gives you room for upgrading in place, 2 slots you'd have to sell what you had. I don't believe the overclocking angle matters in this context.

                  What if I had Samsung B-Die (much more stressful on IMC), or I had some random garbage bin?

                  The IMC and the signal parasitics caused by a lower quality board aren't necessarily related. Almost all B-Die kits will work at 3600CL16 no matter what board setup you have. The situation you're describing only really matters when you start OCing.

                  If you running 4dimm, you might want to run TM5 with extreme profile, or Prime95 with large FFT to validate your OC.

                  I've found HCI Memtest + ycruncher to be much quicker and more reliable at detecting errors, though I use P95 Large FFTs.

                  also….. how likely will one buying a cheap b450 going to upgrade to a 5900x? as if you compare gaming performance only, 5600x will almost catch up 5900x

                  Not everyone uses their PC only for gaming. With this motherboard I'd only be comfortable staying in the 6-core territory. I think its less effort to just buy a better mobo to start with greater options for expandability. I'm upgrading at some point this year from a 1600AF to a 5900X, and I'm glad I don't need to buy two motherboards to facilitate that upgrade.

                  or just buy a USB headset which basically most gaming headset is USB anyway.

                  Or the ASRock B550M Pro4, which for $155 has a good VRM, 3 M.2 slots, 6 SATA Ports, 4 RAM slots and a pretty decent Realtek ALC1200 audio chip to boot. With the current GPU market being awful and SSDs poised to get cheaper over time, I'd say investing in a good mobo is a pretty wise thing to do.

                  • OMGJL on 02/02/2021 - 22:31

                    @notmaroun: we are mostly on the same page, the only thing that we conflict is you don't think this b450m h have a selling point, but I think otherwise.

                    I guess you never have friends or customers who want good PC but super limited budget.

                    put it this way, if you only had $1000, do you still justify spending more on motherboard? it could help one to get a 1660super instead of a 1650 super.

    • Wagaga on 01/02/2021 - 21:05
      +1

      There is a $75 deal for that single motherboard. (Gigabyte B450M H (rev. 1.0) AMD AM4 mATX Motherboard).
      It's cheap, and good enough for a cpu without X.

  • CalmLemons on 01/02/2021 - 20:17

    very cheap i like

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