NSW Mobile Speed Cameras Have Removed All Markings and Tripled Enforcement Hours

Caped Baldy on 06/01/2021 - 10:12
Last edited 07/01/2021 - 06:52 by 1 other user

I know we had the other thread but posting this link with more info for awareness. The other article did not say that car markings have been removed and enforcement hours for the contracted company have tripled.

Yes, speeding can be bad (it's actually more the sudden stopping). So not really interested in rehashing that conversation.

Road fatalities are at their lowest in years thanks to Covid. So does seem to be a revenue exercise in my view.

Waze is an app that has user reports for cameras, crashes, traffic etc. Less fool proof since the enforcement vehicles will be unmarked.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waze&hl=en…
https://apps.apple.com/au/app/waze-navigation-live-traffic/i…

Automotive

Comments

  • Xistn on 06/01/2021 - 10:18
    +16

    Welcome to Victoria!

    • Caped Baldy on 06/01/2021 - 11:01
      +1

      That must be why we're having a wet summer!

      • tonyjzx on 06/01/2021 - 13:00
        -1

        fixed!

        Welcome to North Victoria!

  • GG57 on 06/01/2021 - 10:19
    +1

    Road fatalities may be at lower numbers, but I understand that if you compare that against the (reduced) traffic volume then the percentage is higher than other years.

    Some people were all hyped up in the earlier forum discussion, but there didn't seem to be any concerns with the more widespread monitoring of our movements and behaviours via public CCTV cameras etc.

    Regardless, speeding fines can easily be avoided.

    • pangwen on 06/01/2021 - 10:51

      In QLD, the actual number of road fatalities was up (and obviously the percentage too) during COVID, despite the reduced traffic.

    • Caped Baldy on 06/01/2021 - 11:00
      +2

      Given less traffic, people can drive faster (and still within the limits) so more energy in collisions. So that makes sense.

      Speeding fines can be avoided but it easy to accidentally speed and I'd rather people concentrate on the road than on the speedo.

      • brendanm on 06/01/2021 - 11:16
        +10

        Speeding fines can be avoided but it easy to accidentally speed and I'd rather people concentrate on the road than on the speedo.

        Please stay where you are. A vehicle is on its way to take you to the reeducation camps.

  • Okayy on 06/01/2021 - 10:43
    +7

    Good work! As long as your going by the law, no need to panic!

    • Rumbaar on 06/01/2021 - 11:21

      All those innocent people that get caught up in Police errors … enter the chat!

  • SKiZO on 06/01/2021 - 10:45
    -4

    My in-car license plate recognition project just got it's priority boosted.
    Anyone found a database for the plates? I assume there is a fixed pool of plates these cars will use.

    • Ryanek on 06/01/2021 - 12:51
      +6

      You'll be caught speeding way before you can make out the plates.

      • Surfer Dude on 07/01/2021 - 13:05

        Don't think that's how they work, they scan your speed as you pass them like the sensors on the road for foxed cameras, they don't measure speed on approach from afar.

        • Cliche Guevara on 07/01/2021 - 13:49
          +1

          No that's wrong, they do detect you from a distance, depending on terrain and road curvature, can be 50m to 200m+.
          That's so the camera can get you on approach. No point in "scanning" the car as it passes since the camera would be useless at photographing your number plate.

          • Surfer Dude on 07/01/2021 - 14:21

            @Cliche Guevara: So you're saying that if you're speeding as you approach an unmarked mobile speed camera, realise what it is then immediately drop your speed, you're screwed anyway?

        • Ryanek on 07/01/2021 - 13:58

          The vans in Victoria can detect speeding from 1km away.

          • Zachary on 08/01/2021 - 13:34
            -2

            @Ryanek: get a jammer, detecter, shine plates, remove plates or and use someone else's plates and speed as much as u want….

  • WreckTangle on 06/01/2021 - 10:56
    +1

    I find Waze annoying sometimes as there is no way to select a more direct route. So often it selects tiny little backroads even when direct main roads are available & not that busy.

    • bobbified on 06/01/2021 - 13:38
      +1

      I sometimes have Waze on without a route set and it'll still warn when there's something up ahead.

    • zzap on 07/01/2021 - 12:08
      +2

      If you tap the arrival time tab at the bottom of your screen in the Waze app (where it tells you the distance to your destination, estimated time of arrival, etc.) and then tap the “routes” button, Waze will show you alternative routes.

  • Islund on 06/01/2021 - 12:57
    +10

    they have to recoup the millions they overpaid in land deals to their developer mates

  • bobbified on 06/01/2021 - 13:32
    +5

    It was going to happen sooner or later. It was either they do this or reduce the speed limits even more to reach their revenue targets. The money has to come from somewhere.

    They've already started reducing the limits even more in Liverpool, NSW and added speed cameras there. They really like to state the obvious, but it's the perfect excuse. Who doesn't know that 30km/h is going to cause less injury/death than 40km/h? And 20km/h will cause even less injury/death than 30km/h and so on. A balance between the need to travel and the need for safety is what we need - not just a brainless reduction towards a 0km/h limit each time.

    • GG57 on 06/01/2021 - 13:45

      If only we had jet-packs, as promised

      • bobbified on 06/01/2021 - 13:48
        +4

        There'll still be idiots that kill themselves. Then they'll ban the use of two thrusters together. Everyone will need to fly with a single thruster only so they'll just spin around in circles! 🤣

    • Caped Baldy on 06/01/2021 - 13:47
      +6

      30km/h is ridiculous. Where does personal responsibility come into it?

      • bobbified on 06/01/2021 - 13:52
        +2

        Where does personal responsibility come into it?

        It might be something they consider one day when "safety" is actually at the top of the government's priority list.

      • Euphemistic on 07/01/2021 - 15:55
        -2

        30 isn’t ridiculous and we’ve had decades to prove our responsibility and continually fail to do so. 30km/h in built up areas with high pedestrian traffic will reduce incidents and harm caused from them.

    • Ghost47 on 06/01/2021 - 19:57
      +1

      Lol what a freaking joke.

  • JimmyF on 06/01/2021 - 13:58
    +2

    NSW Mobile Speed Cameras Have Removed All Markings and Tripled Enforcement Hours

    Well if you're not speeding, then you have nothing to worry about!

  • orangetrain on 06/01/2021 - 15:09

    Both liblab want this. Anyone know a party that's against this?

    • GG57 on 06/01/2021 - 15:48
      -4

      Why would a government not want to support a road safety initiative?

      • Euphemistic on 06/01/2021 - 16:14
        +1

        And even if it isn’t a true safety initiative, they’ve been spinning the line long enough, that it might as well be.

  • Euphemistic on 06/01/2021 - 15:21

    ‘ReVenUE RaIsINg’. Not is not, it’s voluntary tax system.

  • Lurk Hartog on 07/01/2021 - 07:47
    -1

    Cool. Have never had a speeding fine before and can't see this making any difference to me. Hopefully it means way more fines for the people I see speeding every day who slow down when they know a camera is up ahead.

  • MontyMacaw on 07/01/2021 - 08:31
    +3

    Speeding is a voluntary tax system. A generation from now it will seem like we lived in the Wild West of travel.

  • tabitha731 on 07/01/2021 - 08:37
    +3

    All that money that was given out to help everyone during 2020, has to be paid from some source… so may as well get it from those who can afford to lose money…. those who speed and endanger others.

  • OzHunterNSW on 07/01/2021 - 09:46

    The entire nation will be in recoup mode… all services will rise. The billions spent on archaic war games is solely bc or boss the US has told the vassal Ozzie govt to spend more… on US made equipment

  • eggles01 on 07/01/2021 - 13:18

    unless you have the intention of speeding,what does it matter? I want you to think/look at every one in your family/s and ask yourself "how would I feel if I was to take any of those loved ones lives just because I want to speed",
    right, you want to look ahead on the road instead of watching the speedo,there is alway the oppotunity to have "cruise control" put on your vehicle,I am sure a couple of $100 would be less than a huge fine you would get for speeding,also just think, of how the happiness you would feel knowing that you had not killed a human being or an animal that did not deserve to die!!,
    by the way I am not preaching to you,I am thinking that I may be one of those human beings that you may kill.

    • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2021 - 14:38
      +1

      Ye don't mind me just gonna cruise control while in traffic. Hasn't it already been proven that speed isn't the biggest factor to accidents?

      • Euphemistic on 07/01/2021 - 15:59
        +1

        Speed has only got a bad rap because t is the easiest thing to measure. The biggest factor is plain poor driving, but it’s very hard to measure so we have statistics skewed toward measurable things like speeding.

        Accident investigation can say without doubt the speed of the car at the time of an incident, but cannot say whether the driver was actually watching where they were going in a lot of cases.

  • eggles01 on 07/01/2021 - 13:20
    -1

    unless you have the intention of speeding,what does it matter? I want you to think/look at every one in your family/s and ask yourself "how would I feel if I was to take any of those loved ones lives just because I want to speed",
    right, you want to look ahead on the road instead of watching the speedo,there is alway the oppotunity to have "cruise control" put on your vehicle,I am sure a couple of $100 would be less than a huge fine you would get for speeding,also just think, of how the happiness you would feel knowing that you had not killed a human being or an animal that did not deserve to die!!,
    by the way I am not preaching to you,I am thinking that I may be one of those human beings that you may kill.

  • Scot on 07/01/2021 - 14:32

    Just curious.
    Yesterday I came onto Victoria Road just before Top Ryde after spending a few hours with my Grand kids at Ryde Aquatic Centre. As I turned left onto Victoria road I noticed a Mobile Speed Camera vehicle parked up on the verge/kerb BETWEEN the two permanent speed cameras.
    Now I am very safety conscious and do not condone speeding in any way but I was wondering if a speeding driver, say doing 65 in a 60 zone, drove past, would they be fined twice???!!!
    If so I think this would be Very Wrong and definitely just revenue raising!

    • Euphemistic on 07/01/2021 - 16:01

      And this is one of the big problems with speed cameras. The punishment is a step removed from the action. Like saying to a kid ‘wait until your father gets home’ when the kid has forgotten what happened and the father has only a second hand account for the discipline required.

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