Chinese Owned Australian Wineries

SnoopX on 10/12/2020 - 21:31

What are some thoughts from OzBargainers about the recent discussions about Chinese owned wineries. Will you still up vote or buy if good value?

Here is the list:

Chinese-owned Australian wineries 

South Australia:

Auswan Creek (Barossa) 包括以下品牌
Peacock Series
Blue Lobster
Inspire Estate
Red Deer Station
Finders and Seekers
Linwood Estate
EI8HT Basket
Auskoala
Burge Family Wine (Barossa)
Château Yaldara (Barossa)
Cimicky (Barossa)
Green Dragon (Barossa)
Greenock Creek (Barossa)
Hemera Estate formerly Ross Estate (Barossa)
Max’s Vineyard (Barossa)
Reis Creek (Barossa)
1847 Wine (Barossa)
Kilikanoon (Clare Valley)
Knappstein Winery (Clare Valley)
Hollick (Coonawarra)
Belvidere Winery (Langhorne Creek)
Project Wine (Langhorne Creek)

New South Wales:

Allandale Estate (Hunter Valley)
Capercaillie Wine (Hunter Valley)

VICTORIA

Lake Cooper Estate (Heathcote)
Badger’s Brook (Yarra Valley)
Greenstone (Yarra Valley)
Handpicked Wine (Mornington, Yarra Valley)
Helen & Joey (Yarra Valley)
Hillcrest Winery (Yarra Valley)
Lilydale Estate (Yarra Valley)
Pettavel (Geelong)
Seville Estate (Yarra Valley)
Storm Ridge (Yarra Valley)
Sunshine Creek (Yarra Valley)
Wild Cattle Creek (Yarra Valley)
Barmah Winery (Mornington Peninsula)

Tasmania:

Nocton Vineyard (Coal Valley)
Western Australia: 
Ferngrove (Frankland)
Palinda Wines (Margaret River)

Food & Grocery Wine

Comments

  • mskeggs on 10/12/2020 - 21:55

    Huh. Didn't know about the ownership list that includes some really quite high quality wineries.
    But isn't it the case that these wineries will also be subject to the Chinese wine tariffs? I suspect that will hurt them much worse than my occasional purchase.

    • ryf on 10/12/2020 - 22:15
      +4

      i'm sure a bribe or two will help uncork those pesky tariffs

    • RockyRaccoon on 10/12/2020 - 22:34
      +2

      Then again, if purchases we make here are from non Chinese owned, that means indirectly China’s wine tariff will hurt China more and reduce impact on Aussie wineries.

      Just like buying Cheap T Shirts, Bangaladesh, Cambodia, India instead.

      • plmko on 11/12/2020 - 00:55
        -2

        If we avoided wines like these these specific labels then they'd be forced to dump tonnes of raw materials like grapes into our market which could well trigger another wine crisis like what was experienced during the 90's and took decades to recover from.

        Unlike Shirts from 3rd world countries, the supply cannot go anywhere but Australia and will do nothing but hurt the vulnerable country regions where the Chinese once bought previously unviable businesses from the above said crisis.

        • RockyRaccoon on 11/12/2020 - 15:48
          +1

          ???

          3 bottles for sale

          2 bottle buyers

          1 Bottle left.

          So its going to be dumped anyway. (dumped meaning price lowered to entice the 3rd sale)

          Wouldnt you prefer to have the dumped bottle to be from the one you dont like.

  • brendanm on 10/12/2020 - 22:18
    +17

    Not really surprising, not sure why we allow our entire country to be sold out from under us. Those politicians must be getting some sweet kickbacks.

    • Pimpiticians 4 Life on 10/12/2020 - 22:31
      +6

      They're not politicians they're pimpiticians - they sell the country out to anybody and everybody like a cheap whore.
      Left, right whatever they're all turds in the same toilet bowl.

    • Serathis on 10/12/2020 - 22:31
      +1

      Like Daryl Maguire !

    • Ryanek on 11/12/2020 - 07:58
      +1

      If a Chinese national offered you three times the price of your home tomorrow would you say no?

      • whooah1979 on 11/12/2020 - 08:18
        +1

        Where do we sign?

      • brendanm on 11/12/2020 - 08:55

        My house probably doesn't contain any arable land.

      • AirbusA389 on 11/12/2020 - 09:52
        -2

        i'll say YES!!

        and send the teenagers to set the house on fire 24 hours after settlement. deal?

    • Baghern on 27/12/2020 - 13:43

      or ask the sellers….

      Oh no someone wants to offer me more money…. what will i do…

  • Ivegottadog on 10/12/2020 - 22:33

    Thanks for list. Is that a full listing?

    • Cluster on 11/12/2020 - 00:07

      The list is not complete as I know of one Barossa Valley winery majority owned by a Chinese businessman who lives in China. I can't mention it here however as it's not a share market listed company and I know someone who was involved in the deal.

      I think a boycott is a silly thing to do. There are many Australians employed at these wineries, and China will use any boycotts as ammunition to bolster their claims that it's really Australia who is at fault here.

      • RockyRaccoon on 11/12/2020 - 15:50
        +2

        Bullies will use other ammunition anyway, so believing they will be rational is useless.

        Trying to appease or use logic is futile.

        Todays news shows that already.

        • cityloop on 12/12/2020 - 09:56
          +2

          It’s a fools game. China does not always abide by the rule of law. The notion that a boycott shouldn’t happen because they currently employ Australians is short term thinking. It’s a whittling away long game they play until one day you have no bargaining chips left. Take a trip to Vanuatu and see all the Chinese “foreign aid” “investment” on infrastructure. Locals aren’t constructing the bridges and roads, the Chinese have imported their own. What bargaining power does Vanuatu have now? None.

          • Jojo-Ma on 24/12/2020 - 12:21

            @cityloop: I noticed exactly the same in Cambodia too. It's a blatant buy out.

  • cityloop on 10/12/2020 - 22:50

    Thanks for this list. I think there’s a number more to add.

  • TheMindsetTraveller on 10/12/2020 - 23:47
    -1

    Given that there are close to 2,400 wineries in Australia, this list of 40 odd wineries that are owned by Chinese represents less than 2%.

    Yes go ahead and avoid these (chinese owned) wines if that's your prerogative.

    • orangetrain on 11/12/2020 - 09:33
      +1

      Don't some wineries produce more than others?

      After all, I'm sure there are over a hundred super markets, doesn't mean they're all the same.

      • TheMindsetTraveller on 12/12/2020 - 06:58
        +1

        You make a valid point,

        If the OP added how much those wineries produced but s/he didn't, then we might have a better and informed discussion.

  • AustriaBargain on 11/12/2020 - 00:11
    +1

    As long as they don't try to hide it, and I see some of them have their business name in Chinese, then what's the problem. I bet an outside perspective on winemaking will lead to innovation in production and marketing, which benefits all wine makers in Australia.

    • ak47992 on 11/12/2020 - 00:36

      it is not easy to find out which brands are owned by Chinese

  • whooah1979 on 11/12/2020 - 00:26
    +8

    Boycotting foreign owned business will directly impact local jobs. They go out of business and their employees ends up at Centrelink. Do we really need to destroy more local jobs?

    • ak47992 on 11/12/2020 - 00:32
      +6

      it is better to buy Australian owned Wineries.
      it also help the industry

      • ihbh on 11/12/2020 - 07:50

        Not if it results in local ones producing poorer quality for a higher price - Aussie consumers suffer as a result and arguably more than these poor quality ones gain.

    • Tiredman on 11/12/2020 - 08:35

      Winery owner will just reduce production and cut some Aussie workers.

      • whooah1979 on 11/12/2020 - 09:19
        -1

        Please describe what Aussie workers look like.

        • Tiredman on 11/12/2020 - 09:39

          Humans?

    • mapax on 11/12/2020 - 09:01
      +2

      It’s fairly common practice for the new owners to fire all the Aussie workers. I’ve seen it happen at two wineries and a series of dairies. They fired the unskilled workers within a few months and the skilled workers were gone within 18 months, just long enough to train their new colleagues replacements.

      I’m not saying it happens in every case, just that it’s common enough that I’ve seen it a few times.

      • whooah1979 on 11/12/2020 - 09:24

        train their new colleagues replacements.

        Are these workers Visa holders?

    • orangetrain on 11/12/2020 - 09:38

      Local jobs?? They hire foreigners or Chinese only. If they go out of business, they have to go back to China.

      • whooah1979 on 11/12/2020 - 09:40
        -2

        They hire foreigners

        Are these workers Visa holders?

        Chinese only

        Are you saying that Asians can't be local?

        • orangetrain on 11/12/2020 - 09:42

          457s? Why not ask the communist liberal party member gladys liu?

  • BigBirdy on 11/12/2020 - 08:21
    +2

    What is a Chinese Owned Australian Winery?
    Is it, a winery owned by a company registered or person permanently resident overseas, or a winery whose owner has a Chinese looking name? If it’s the latter, then this post is just promoting racism against Chinese Australians

    • avidd on 11/12/2020 - 09:28
      +3

      100% agree with this… an Asian Australian who owns a winery is completely different from a Chinese government/overseas company who owns the winery.

  • superadmin on 11/12/2020 - 13:46

    I had no idea Green Dragon was Chinese owned. Pretty good wine, hopefully some discounts will come!

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