Australia and China may not agree on a lot of things at the moment, but one thing we can agree on is that Mulan cost a truck load of money to make
As per the What Hi-Fi? site it’s now on general release for all Disney + Subscribers
https://www.whathifi.com/au/advice/mulan-hits-general-releas…
I cannot confirm the quality of the movie but I know that a lot of people have been waiting for it to fall under the normal Disney+ subscription
Enjoy, and don’t get too political 😂
No lol. Saw it at a friends house.
Ok you may keep your OzB badge
Wait you didnt get it for free on Disney plus before?! LMAO
What is the point of it?
Yeah was checking on this movie and found it was for premium service. Joke on disney, it took only about 7 or 8 movies then my kids ran out of things to watch
It was due to be released in cinemas as Disney's big blockbuster movie for 2020 in about April or so. Then, all the cinemas in the world shut down. So they decided to release via their streaming platform at a charge - afaik it's the only "paid for" product theyve had on their platform
Seemed reasonable to me, if not necessarily effective.
Yeah it isn't high quality though it's kind of shitty.
Correct. Onward was Disney's other big release this year however it was free on D+. They should have adopted the same strategy with Mulan
I'd understand if it was $15 max, $35 is over the top. For $35 you should get a permanent copy to keep whether you have a Disney plus subscription or not.
To make money, by renting it out to people who like to waste money….
Cost a lot to make… I don't give damn about it.
If you watch this you are indirectly supporting that female actress for her opinion on HK protests…
I neither support that nor I support violence on protests and the new security law. Nor I like China's regime playing trade wars and badmouth Australia. They also think they are high and mighty start abusing their wolf warrior ways of battling politics and overrule international laws
Even if given free I won't watch it. Who would allow doctored images on twitter from foreign minister especially trying to harm another country reputation. If they did that to US, a war would start already. However they are doing it to Australia knowing we wouldn't do anything back. (Profanity) cowards. They offended someone and say people overreacted. Pretty sure if we doctored China for their wrong doings, they will start nuking us, no question asked. They only have themselves to blame where other countries are banding together against China
we have been specifically targeting china's reputation since scummo was elected to do so… a little payback would seem overdue…
Scomo has only been under control from the so-called "Think Tank", ASPI.. feeding Australian Public nothing but lies to incite a war so that their donors can sell more weapons to Australian Military.
Have to wonder about the corruption about why Australian government still funds ASPI when the control of the organisation is from the US Government and a bunch of military contractor organisations? Just a "bit" of conflict of interest much?
its interesting that john howard set that up cause all roads back to how america really took control here go back to little johny and the libs…
Come to this country for better life and then eat it out like parasites. commendable job.
@petry: Seen you and bchliu bashing Australia at every opportunity. Why don't you go back to where you came from? We won't miss you…I promise.
@dealhunter52: not bashing anyone but you keep serving up murdoch propaganda like you are paid to ….
and there's that 'we' again - royal 'we' or the 77th or some other group?
no real australian would dream of using ozama even in one of many of their accounts on this site…
@petry: And you keep peddling state controlled CCP propaganda like you're paid to being a 50 cent party member. Keep sensoring free and independent media that doesn't agree with your masters.
But doesn't Trump tweet misleading (if not complete fabrications) on an hourly basis? Where is the outrage for that? The Brereton report did mention two 14-year olds who were murdered by having their throat slit. So the CCP merely recreated a digital rendition of it. Not exactly 'fake news' compared to the outright concoctions that Pauline Hanson, Trump or Pete Evans crap out on a daily basis. Also quite hypocritical for Australia to be clamouring for twitter to censor tweets when they criticize the CCP for social media censorship lol… The fact that scomo made a 20 minute nationally televised press conference responding to this low level nobody's tweet says it all lol. Is he going to respond to every random person that tweets something that hurt his feelings? Really, I think Australians should be spending their time and energy trying prosecute and fix the leadership issues that led to the murders committed by their special forces instead of raging at this? But I suspect this is part of the Australian way: redirect outrage (to CCP) and obfuscate responsibility and blame.
I'm not too fond of the new security laws in HK, nor am I of China's aggressive posturing. But in this case, both sides are being childish. CCP is being a bully for sure, but Australians are being hypocrites and stupid. They are involved in an economic war they cannot win. Australia's entire economy from construction to education to iron is reliant on China. China on the other hand only relies on Australia for something like 0.5% of their exports. Its short-sighted to bite the hand that feeds you. Also note that the US wouldn't care about Australia if it wasn't for the geopolitical ramifications of her being in the Asia-Pacific region. You think Trump actually gives a rat's ass about Australians lol? Don't kid yourself.
there was a report before Brereton - the throat cutting was in that….2016?
Brereton was an attempt to manage the issue - a stalling tactic - lot of people died since then…some by their own hands sadly because they were mauled for speaking out.
that's what sickens me most - fighting men telling the truth about what they saw and did, and then abandoned by pollie shits after…
But doesn't Trump tweet misleading (if not complete fabrications) on an hourly basis? Where is the outrage for that?
>Where is the outrage for that?
You're kidding right ?
Not really. Trump is literally tweeting propaganda and fabrications on an hourly basis lately - I don't see much outrage really, just bemusement. For Scomo to make a 20 minute press conference to address a tweet by a low-level official is pretty low of him lol. Is he going to make one tomorrow about the Woolies cashier being rude to him?
Secondly, the digitally recreated image was of a scenario from the Brereton report: "members from the ‘SASR’ were driving along a road and saw two 14-year-old boys whom they decided might be Taliban sympathisers. They stopped, searched the boys and slit their throats. The rest of the Troop then had to ‘clean up the mess’, which involved bagging the bodies and throwing them into a nearby river. Dr Crompvoets says she was told this was not an isolated incident."
Not exactly fake news you know. The tweet was crude sure, and probably unnecessary, but compared to the BS that Pauline Hanson and Trump make up about China and every other country these days, this was really quite tame (and was really rather factual). Scomo and the media needed a scapegoat to divert attention for Australia's failures.
It's because Trump is already been seen as a clown. Most people do not care what he says in China, the worse he make of himself, the better China gets. Most netizens there see it that way plus twitter is not accessible within China.
However Australia is different we have never done anything on social media channels vs China deliberately yet China is doing so directly at Scomo and even banning him on Wechat.
You're a bit oblivious if you really think that. What about all the social media posts making derogatory comments about China from the likes of Pauline Hanson or every other Australian politician these days? This has been blown wayyyy out of proportion, a random nobody from China tweets this and Scomo makes a nationally televised conference about it? He's clearly using this opportunity to divert attention from the real issue: the murder committed by Australian special forces. And the media fell for it again reporting it like it was the most shocking thing in the world lol… Honestly, this shouldn't even have been a footnote in the local paper in terms of importance. Scomo and gullible Australians took the bait from China and made themselves look like fools.
I saw it on Spnkbng for a while before it got taken down. Trash movie.
I had to google it. I… I don't think that site hosts family-friendly movies.
Terrible movie even without comparison to the original. Get woke go broke.
I rather watch her movie with Hunter Biden. Still a better love story than Mulan.
Which movie is that lol?
Do you remember … a long time ago, Christopher Steele speculated there was a P Tape of Trump, which formed the basis of a 5-year-long impeachment investigation by Robert Mueller ?
Which was euphemistically called 'kompromat' instead of blackmail. 2016-2020 seems so long ago now.
Turns out, Hunter Biden has more than one sex tape, and each one is progressively more incriminating.
Where it falls a bit thin, is that people knew Joe Biden was corrupt, but he's also senile now, and will "develop some disease and say I have to resign" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOedmg_X7m8 , which also creatively abridges any investigation into his son's involvement with China/Ukraine politics and Energy companies.
One being on his previous laptop, with some incriminating underage photos/emails and texts, with allegedly then-14-year old Natalie Biden during Hunter's "Cocaine" period. Though, nobody wants to know who the women were, and several text messages/emails confirm "something" split the family.
The former Laptop's contents, along with the allusion that Hunter's current email account was accessed, including text messages, document the business dealings with Hunter's VC business, payments from Ukraine's Burisma and CEFC China Energy, United Energy, et al over several years. But there's also selfies and short videos too.
The October video, leaked by a "HK Dissident" group, LuDe media, and Gundam00 on GTV, a week before the election, which "nobody" wants to talk about, includes a second sex tape, video, pictures and CCP documents, alleging a blackmail sting / compromat video.
Here it gets even more discretionary because any investigation would be "validating" the story that dropped days before the US election. One of the women alleged to be invited or involved, was the actress from Mulan, Liu Yifei in the "BGY Program", where the idea is to rope celebrities in with lavish parties and film everything (Sic) to force foreign influence and economic decisions.
Apparently the allegation is that Liu "Billion Fei", was lighting up Hunter's crack pipe in a hidden camera photo. So called because she is paid 1 Billion Yen a year to appear on the arms of Yue Xinyu, a CCP official from Golden Bridge investments, on behalf of a request from Zhang Hongwei from United Energy…
The whole story is way more interesting than the plot of Mulan anyway.
How you'd prove any of it, even if you had the people in the room, a money trail, and witnesses, it would disappear in a sudden black hole as if it never happened.
Mulan flopped everywhere. Won't watch this CCP movie even if they pay me money to watch.
if its by that principle you should boycott the following studios movies considering the Chinese ownership you mentioned.
Waner Brothers
Flagship Entertainment
CAA
Imagine Entertainment
Pearl Studio
Gravity Pictures
Columbia pictures
STX Entertainment
Disney Marvel
Agbo Films
Snap
STX Entertainment
Skydance
Universal Pictures
Endeavor
Lionsgate
Village Roadshow
…stop going to hoyts cinemas too because i got some bad news for you there too ;)
if its by that principle you should boycott the following studios movies considering the Chinese ownership you mentioned.
Waner Brothers
Is that a ripoff of Warner Brothers?
Chinese version
they are missing K
Good find on the spelling mistake. Does sound like an actual rip off version lmao.
“ Warner Bros ”
It's also just a really bad movie lol
Yeah.
To summarise one of many many criticisms out there: Mulan was portrayed as an already gift and powerful character, never went through ANY hardship or any trials, displayed her strong powers during the camp training, and at the end, the general/commander immediately obeyed the things she said, which ended up not being a big deal because they didn't set her up a long the way.
That made no sense.
@MuddyClear: Essentially they changed Mulan from a tomboy, into a Wuxia heroine, a Force Powers/Magic martial arts warrior.
One of the more amusing snark filled reviews: https://youtu.be/SnW2tp1_CGY
@toliman: It’s a different take on the classical version of mulan. They wanted it to be a blockbuster with all the bells and whistles, so they added magic to it. So what if mulan has magic. It makes sense that she does given the female antagonist.
CCP probably using ozbargain. So many likes for a such a ccp inauthentic story.
My wife is a huge fan of the cartoon movie - after less then 10mins we had to turn it off it was so shit
Wow so many haters. Thought it was a good movie.
People keep making it political
It's literally a political movie tho
Isn’t that Borat?
@Chicken Kyiv: A lot of Chinese popular traditional texts are popular nowadays because they tow the line.
In Mulan's case it's been interpreted and reproduced many times where she's always fighting barbarians/foreign invaders/enemies of the state.
In this movie they've soft rewritten history and beautified it a bit by changing things like how Mulan is Han Chinese (when in the original she's from a minor clan)
Ah yeah I guess. Just thought it was a nice movie with a female lead. Also Liu Yifei the female lead is 33 years old was seriously surprised, she looks about 16. Anyway good movie IMO.
In other words, she's Chinese. I remember meeting a second cousin of mine and my sister and I were arguing about whether she was still a teenager. Turns out she was 31.
They tried to shove political messages down our throats and you say viewers are the ones to make it political? Delusional…
What political message?
A brave young girl saves an ancient nation from invasion despite medieval misogyny? If this was set in France and changing the character's name to "Jean D'Arc", would that have a political message behind it?
Your racism is just oozing from your orifices.
@bchliu: The lead actress made the movie political when she re-shared an image posted by Chinese newspaper People's Daily, an official newspaper of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.
"I support Hong Kong police. You can beat me now. What a shame for Hong Kong." This sparked international controversy, with Liu being accused of supporting police brutality.
@bchliu: yanks shipped a load of far right extremists in from eastern europe before it got real ugly with petrol bombs and bows - and that's what they were paid to do, train the studenst and radicalise em…. no-one getting petrol bombs thrown at em feels sympathetic to those throwing them
@airpoe: Don't watch it. If you are a person with enough understanding of freedom of speech and democracy, you would not support this movie and it's actress
@bchliu: You're conflating political messages with racism. I'm Chinese so yeah nice try with the racism card.
Since the politics of it seem to go over your head I'll just explain why it's an objectively bad movie. Mulan has this random, unexplained and undefined "chi" which gives her an advantage in physical prowess nobody else possesses. It pops up when she just decides to let her hair down. Letting her hair down is apparently all it takes to "stay true to herself" and defeat any enemy at will. She doesn't have to work to overcome any physical challenges that would implicitly be there in an environment where she's surrounded by men. Her father was reduced to an embarrassment of a character. Weak and ineffectual, when he's supposed to be a proud, accomplished and respected, but physically incapable to carry out his civic duty due to the passage of time. But this movie can't show that because it needs to not only tear down the tyrannical patriarchy but deny it ever existed. The villains powers are also unexplained and the turn around of the crow woman into a sympathetic character occurred over about 2.5 seconds and didn't make any sense other than "I am another marginalised female". The action was cringeworthy, completely unbelievable which is surprising given the budget, and the main actress had zero range of facial expressions even in the heat of battle. Or maybe the Chi means everything was easy for her and she didn't have to break a sweat. I am all for inspirational female characters and role models for young children but the message this is sending is that you can overcome anything as long as you have chi. Oh and something about staying true to yourself. What does that even mean?
@spiff: This is what disney does to everything they touch now. Like Beauty and the beast had some new plot about abuse / DV. Maleficient who was arguably the most evil of all the disney characters now is a sympathetic character who only became evil due to being mistreated by her former lover…..What a joke.
@bchliu: Might just jump in here for the benefit of anyone who may think that all Chinese think any criticism of the Chinese government is "racism". I'm Chinese Australian, have spoken to other Chinese friends who have watched this and can assure you many in the Chinese diaspora did not like this movie, nor Chinese government politics. Fairly sure we are not racist.
Also to be fair, it's mainly well meaning caucasians in media who decided that weaponising labels inc significantly broadening the definition of "racist" (inc. "didn't like Mulan? = racist") was a good idea, so they could use it to marginalise their conservative foes. Some passionate defenders of the Chinese government have jumped on board.
I think the female lead first fired the shots and made it political. Not people. People are just reacting/responding to her political activism.
i was excited for donnie yen and jet li
that sword exhibition he did on the promo ad, they pushed the crap outa it all over social media.
i see it, it lasts for maybe 30 secs and thats the first and last bit of sword swinging he does.
jet li does completely nothing also
plus it felt like another star wars a force awakens with rey. bein extremely strong all of a sudden with minimal training. in mulans case no training and shes a good fighter because of her chi.
so yes a waste of 90 mins for me personally, and idc about the political part. im speaking from a martial arts fan pov
Haha that's exactly what I thought too.
Disney made this movie hoping to make massive money; particularly in China.
They believe they had a lot of things going for it, big Asian cast & money spent on props & stuff but it failed because of the storyline. They tried to please the western audience by changing things that don't seem to make sense in western audience but when you change this its seems confusing to the Asian/ Chinese audience. So half way house.
Plus 2 things didn't help the movie one bit. The lead actress came out to support HK police against the protestors; clearly this did not play will with the western audience. Then it came out it was filmed in Xinjiang; where Muslims are in concentration camps; the CCP pretty much smothered promotions in China for the movie as they didn't want any more press about the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. Hence bad box office.
fox news concentration camps ….
Changes to the story also support CCP. Like in the original the emperor bows down to Mulan and in the sequel she bows down to the emperor. I haven't seen the sequel, just viewed some criticisms, so I know there's a lot more exples that I am missing.
Basically they took the original and made it into a CCP propaganda and social justice warrior film to appeal to western and Chinese audiences. But it turns out China and the West are tired of those boring simple storylines.
You know what perhaps an artists of ours illustrate how mulan slays Uyghurs in Xinjiang, imprison them, and harm innocent people in Hong Kong because they had dealings with western people.
Let's then call CCP overacting and demand their apology for it.
I like wolf warrior style politics too, I like to bite back you know
Oh but wait CCP will ban it on all channels for its Chinese citizens and noone will see it.
The movie is trash and would not recommend it. It isn’t free, it’ll cost you x amount of hours which you wish you didn’t give.
The movie was OK. I wouldn’t say trash. Trash is more like borat.
Nah it was trash.
73% rotten tomatoes says otherwise
@MuddyClear: What? Did you just call Mulan better than Borat, then use Rotten Tomatoes to support Mulan?
Mate, Borat got 86% on Rotten Tomatoes.
the fact most "blockbuster" movies are trash these days is not an excuse for lowering the bar even further.
this is the worst disney movie i have seen so far. Previous animation way way way better.
DO NOT WATCH IT.
It is basically a piece of SH1T.
I guess MULAN is the worst Disney movie in the past two decades.
The comments here are way more entertaining than this movie,
Came here with my popcorn to read the comments and am not disappointed :) The comments have provided more entertainment than probably the movie will provide :)
Special Razzie award goes to @petry who was somehow able to bring in India, Modi, Muslims in a movie thread while conveniently forgetting that India shares border with China and already have been in confrontation over the last few months with PLA so is in much tougher situation than Australia. Australia is also now participating in Malabar naval exercises with US, Japan and India. India was also the first to ban TikTok and other apps and I do hope Australia does the same - especially Wechat since it had the audacity to censor PM Scott Morrison. Tit-for-tat.
actually it was
Tyrx 2 hours 54 min ago
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@sathz666: Samsung hasn't made any phones in China since 2019. They all come from Vietnam, South Korea and India now.
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Iwantthebestprice 1 hour 59 min ago
@Tyrx: Yeah the good places
but then facts aren't of any interest round here… just make stuff up like trumpy wumpy - still well regarded round here despite being as corrupt as they come…
ohh we're holding the yanks hand along with their jap buddies - how sweet…Yukio Mishima would puke..
Tyrx mentioned India to disprove the previous comment. That is the context in which they mentioned India, and ONLY in that context.
but then facts aren't of any interest round here…
people like you straight up mislead and lie lol.
mate you seem oblivious to whats written above
Tyrx 2 hours 54 min ago
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@sathz666: Samsung hasn't made any phones in China since 2019. They all come from Vietnam, South Korea and India now.
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Iwantthebestprice 1 hour 59 min ago
@Tyrx: Yeah the good places
so i'm trying to see how you can me a liar when
Iwantthebestprice 1 hour 59 min ago
@Tyrx: Yeah the good places
They wrote india was such a great place when they even use shotguns routinely on demonstrators, but heh like i wrote ' facts aren't of any interest round here… just make stuff up like trumpy wumpy - still well regarded round here despite being as corrupt as they come…
@petry: The topic is [Phone manufacturing]
India is also a good place for [Phone manufacturing]
If you want to fill in the blanks with something else, that is up to you.
There is not enough information or context in the conversation to definitively make such a claim they are talking about things like shotgunning protestors.
Honourable mention to the poster who declared the person who objected to Mulan's politics a "racist". Rare culture war/identity politics intrusion into OzB
This movie was so bad
Not a good movie, it was waste of time. I don’t know about animation movies from 1990’s but this version was a terrible one.
garbage movie, not a deal. why not post every "free" netflix show as a separate deal too
new movie was an insult to the original mulan, which wasn't exactly perfect, but man they fked it up so bad.
Guys, I am from China and please believe me, this Mulan movie is a garbage. Keep feeling awkward when watching it. Plus, Liu has a bad image as she supports HK police.
I was actually excited about a new Mulan movie being made by Disney. But then when it was released, I watched the trailer and felt bothered. Mulan's father looks like Xi really a big turn off lol
Did you know he’s Helmsman Xi now,
“He’s even adopted a new title – “helmsman” – once reserved only for the great founding father Chairman Mao Zedong.”
wwow - is it still 2018? Thats when the media adopted that term wasn't it?
The actress gave Mulan a bad name. The real Mulan nowadays is supposed to be the backboned heros like Agnes Chow and Sidney Powell who fight for freedom and justice, not only for HK or U.S, but for you and me everyone in the world.
and Melissa Carone
Did you pay $34.99 too?