Cars Queuing When Waiting to Turn Right on a Median Strip

fastnbulbous on 30/11/2020 - 22:04
Last edited 01/12/2020 - 00:33

A pet peeve of mine is when trying to turn right from a median strip/gap and have a second car also turn into the strip right behind you.
I've cobbled together some diagrams (sorry wasn't in mspaint but is equivalent)

Normal waiting to merge
Additional car pulls in before the car can merge and blocks view
Note: i forgot to put the traffic in on the lane but assume there is traffic coming so it's reasonable they're waiting,

Often it makes it so much harder to see and they'll end up having a clearer view and sometimes even pull out ahead of you (as sometimes you can't see enough to move and they must think why aren't you going, it's clear!)
Also they sometimes block cars wanting to turn in behind them.

Does anyone think this is acceptable?

I thought there should only be 1 car in the median strip at a time (not counting others turning from the other direction), otherwise it doesn't seem safe.

Reference picture: https://www.lnr120.com.au/single-post/2016/07/19/Road-Rules-…

Edit:
I added some colours to the cars.
https://i.imgur.com/oZvbRwx.png
Basically i don't like when someone in the red car decides to pull into the median strip (from where the blue car would typically wait) before the green car can merge into the lane.
I think it's unsafe for the red car to go there as it's difficult to do without blocking the driver in green's view.

Automotive

Comments

  • Godric on 30/11/2020 - 22:14
    +3

    I have an endless list of on the road pet peeves, but we can only control our own actions : /

  • pegaxs on 30/11/2020 - 22:21
    +2

    Australian Road Rule 86 deals with median turning bays, and there is no rule about how many cars can be in there, providing the subsequent vehicles that arrive give way to the vehicle that is already there.

    Australian Road Rule 125 deals with unreasonably obstructing other drivers. If both cars fit and they are not obstructing you or other drivers wanting to turn, there isn’t much than can be done.

  • whooah1979 on 30/11/2020 - 22:36

    https://i.imgur.com/qIxRsaX.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/xGmZi6D.jpg

    What is the problem with turning right from the median strip? The red vehicles only have to worry about merging instead of crossing two lanes in one move.

    • Ughhh on 01/12/2020 - 00:25

      …. think you've misunderstood.

      I get what you mean op and I agree its annoying. Only thing you can do is not leave too much space behind you, that way, you have better rear visibility and more space ahead of you to accelerate and get up to speed with traffic.

    • fastnbulbous on 01/12/2020 - 00:36

      I added some colours to the cars.
      https://i.imgur.com/oZvbRwx.png
      Basically i don't like when someone in the red car decides to pull into the median strip (from where the blue car would typically wait) before the green car can merge into the lane.
      I think it's unsafe for the red car to go there as it's difficult to do without blocking the driver in green's view.

  • bobbified on 30/11/2020 - 22:55
    +1

    What's wrong with that? It's better than them waiting in the actual lane and having everyone to change lanes and go around them. If anything, I'd probably say it's more considerate!

    • fastnbulbous on 01/12/2020 - 00:33
      +1

      I added some colours to the cars.
      https://i.imgur.com/oZvbRwx.png
      Basically i don't like when someone in the red car decides to pull into the median strip (from where the blue car would typically wait) before the green car can merge into the lane.
      I think it's unsafe for the red car to go there as it's difficult to do without blocking the driver in green's view.

  • gummibear on 01/12/2020 - 01:37
    +3

    Why would you put your car in the position of the green car anyway? Wouldn't that block any car wanting to turn into the side road (towards the blue car)

    From what I can see the red car is being courteous to not block turning cars.

    • morse on 01/12/2020 - 04:33

      Agree. The green car should have positioned themselves where the red car is when they first arrived.

    • adam on 01/12/2020 - 12:46

      What? How is the green car blocking anyone? Reconsider the idea in your mind of which direction traffic is travelling.

    • Jugganautx on 01/12/2020 - 12:58

      The right turn always in my experience has a slip lane where the green island tip is so in fact that blue car is holding up traffic, and you shouldn't be driving that far up to turn anyway.

  • John Kimble on 01/12/2020 - 13:00

    Going forward, can you not leave enough space for the red car to queue up behind you?

    • Quantumcat on 01/12/2020 - 22:31
      +2

      The car behind blocks your view whether or not they're straight. I have a similar intersection I travel on every day: https://ibb.co/nrfMwnR
      Yellow car blocks blue's view of oncoming traffic (pink line - blocked). Can only see the red line, which is too close to make any judgements on. I try to remember not to go all the way to the front of this mini lane (or just wait for both directions of traffic to be clear and do the entire turn in one go).

      • John Kimble on 01/12/2020 - 23:43

        Yeah, so not go all the way is what I meant.

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