Ductless Rangehood with no front recirculation

1x1hunter on 23/11/2020 - 21:06

Hi all, I am just wondering if anyone has installed a ductless slide out rangehood with no front recirculating option.

I bought an arc rangehood rs6s which the specs said can be both duct or recirculating

Got the item delivered and my builder is confused with it as it only has ducted option. My place is an apartment unit with ducting not an option.

So the question is, does installing carbon filter negate the use of duct?

Where there is a hole at the top of the rangehood for duct, do I just cover it?

I went to bunnings and saw most of the same type rangehood has not got a hole in the cabinetry above the rangehood. Maybe because it is a display unit?

Wish I can put photos here.

Thanks.

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  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 23/11/2020 - 21:40
    +1

    All the answers you seek are in the……..

    wait for it……

    instruction manual that comes with the appliance.

    https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/manuals/rs6s/rs6s_userma…

  • 1x1hunter on 23/11/2020 - 21:45
    -1

    Read that before buying. It is useless info.. The specs says it can be ductless or ducted. Hence I bought it.

    Then came the instructions manual that says can be ductless but need front recirculation.

    Then I called up the manufacturer that says it can be ductless without front recirculation but with charcoal filter.

    Then I got appliances online to do their own research and they can sorry our information is incorrect. We should have say it is duct only.

    Trust me.. I been talking to a lot of people about this and all of them give me an either or answer.

    So it is more of a question if anyone has one installed at home.. Slide out rangehood that is ductless and with carbon filter only just to give me a peace of mind that I can cover the hole at the top of the rangehood meant for duct to have it operated ductless with carbon filter.

    Most of the people I know has ducted rangehood so they can't help.

    By the way.. Appliances online has been hopeless and useless. My first dealing with them has been disastrous from delivery onwards.

    • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 23/11/2020 - 21:51

      I've literally given you the manual and it has the answer to every question you've asked.

      Then came the instructions manual that says can be ductless but need front recirculation.

      You don't even need to read past page ONE to find out this model you have bought is not ductless out the front…

  • jackinyourbox on 23/11/2020 - 21:49

    You need the charcoal filter and is ducted to the cupboard up top of unit. It will vent out the cupboard doors. If there is nothing on top of unit, use the filter and let it vent up top

    • 1x1hunter on 23/11/2020 - 21:58

      So charcoal filter with ductvent to top??

      So not covering the hole at the top of the rangehood?

      • jackinyourbox on 23/11/2020 - 22:09

        You need to work out where it is installed and clearances. The way it is now you either need a hole into the cupboard and vents inside there or install it lower with a gap and vent to bottom of cupboard. If you want it flush, the needs to find a place to add small vents in front of the cupboard door

  • Sum-Ting Wong on 23/11/2020 - 22:35
    +1

    Firstly, the manual is confusing. It seems they use the same instructions for all model types.

    Secondly, you bought the wrong model. Your model is not capable of recirculating.

    It's easy to spot a recirculating model as it will have an ~80mm high handle that covers the front vents when the appliance is closed. Ducted-only models have a 40mm high handle.

    Assuming you are able to return it and purchase the recirculating model, you can choose either mode:

    • vent up and duct the exhaust air through to a hole or vent above your overhead cabinets (please do not just vent into the cabinet)
    • vent the air out the front of the appliance, through vents exposed when you slide it out

    So the question is, does installing carbon filter negate the use of duct?

    The filter is to remove the smoke and odour that is drawn into the appliance. The air has to come out somewhere, either vented through the front or ducted up (but not outside as is your case)

    Where there is a hole at the top of the rangehood for duct, do I just cover it?

    If you are venting out of the front of the unit, then yes you can cover it

    I went to bunnings and saw most of the same type rangehood has not got a hole in the cabinetry above the rangehood. Maybe because it is a display unit?

    Correct. Their DIY range of cabinets doesn't appear to include a proper rangehood cabinet with duct box.

    • 1x1hunter on 23/11/2020 - 23:28

      Thanks. Wish I knew about the 80 and the 40mm beforehand.

      The unit has been installed. The builder just formed a hole at the cabinet for the spigot with no duct as I didn't buy it thinking this is a recirculaton rangehood. The rangehood now sits flush with the wall cabinet.

      Reading your comments.
      It seems I have to either form holes in the cabinet for the duct that leads out to the ceiling. The gap between the ceiling and cabinet top panel is about 5cm at most.

      Or.

      Replace the current unit with a unit with front recirculaton type and have the unit sit much lower to accommodate 80mm front panel. The rangehood will sit 40mm lower than the rest of the wall cabinet hopefully with 650mm clearance from cooktop.

      If both fails, redo the cabinet to fit the rangehood. Expensive lesson which could be avoidable a few times if appliances online has been more helpful. I actually called them to ask about whether the current works for ductless and they say yes.

      My plan was actually to have another horizontal panel fixed about 5cm from the bottom panel, creating an 5cm gap (inside the cabinet door) where the current hole from the rangehood is at as front recirculation function.

      • Sum-Ting Wong on 23/11/2020 - 23:58

        My plan was actually to have another horizontal panel fixed about 5cm from the bottom panel, creating an 5cm gap (inside the cabinet door) where the current hole from the rangehood is at as front recirculation function.

        The unit you have doesn't appear to have a charcoal filter. It is important to have one otherwise the smoke and impurities end up back in the household air.

        You could purchase a recirculating duct kit to have the exhaust air filtered. https://www.euromaid.com.au/products/ducting/recirculating-k…

        If I was you, I would have pushed the retailer to accept return of the unit as it sounds like you purchased based on incorrect information from them.

        Best long term solution is to get the correct unit for your application (recirculating) and modify the cabinet to suit.

        Keep in mind, if you have a gas cooktop, you generally need to have 700mm clearance between benchtop and rangehood. Electric is 600mm. These distances may differ in different states.

        • 1x1hunter on 24/11/2020 - 00:12

          Thanks.. Appliances online has been very unhelpful. Yes I am pushing them to get me the right item. They have put me on hold for 1 week now everytime promising to call me back. Delivery was shocker too.

          It does seem like I will need to redo the cabinet just to make sure I get future flexibility. Make a 100mm allowance and ignore the flushing with the surrounding cabinet. Once the appliances online sort their issue out I can get it installed.

          Thanks for your very helpful advise.

          I can finally get some sleep.

        • 1x1hunter on 24/11/2020 - 00:13

          Charcoal filter can be purchased and installed separately

  • Stewardo on 24/11/2020 - 11:19

    You’ve got the Ducted model. RS6S
    RSFR8S is the equivalent recirculating model. in the instructions

    Both are very the lowest end of the spectrum for this type of product, the confusion your having product and it’s service support is because of its poor quality.

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