Good sized Sandisk SSD at $68, best price so far according to CamelCamel
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Seems you were right. Tried to find out details but the so called official data-sheet does not give a f**k about it.
I guess no one is really short of $17, so why not go for Crucial MX500 500GB instead?
If you're not using it as a boot drive and just for storage or as a games drive, there's really no major downside to using a DRAM-less drive and saving the cash; $17 on $68 is an extra 25%.
@Trance N Dance: That's right. I posted this earlier in another deal and it's my DRAMless 980GB SSD for a random Chinese brand. Not that far off from a WD Blue.
@Trance N Dance: Tried Crucial BX500 and was totally disappointed. Maybe SanDisk is kinda different…
The MX500 seems to really start "pulsing" speed once you fill the DRAM, if you move a lot of data i found constant throughput to be less than sandisk.
Sandisk, as usual, have the advantage of making their own controller AND storage, so they tend to work well together and outperform other dramless (or cheap dram, it seems) drives.
Im replacing my Crucial for a Samsung asap.
@MasterScythe: Not sure what your story was with MX500…
But I was totally disgusted by Samsung 840evo and 850evo both of which turned out to be more or less the same maybe even worse of BX500. Two of 840evo died in a row, the 850evo was not much better, writing speed dropped to around 30MB/s… The weird thing is that 970pro is a completely different story. After over a year's usage, the performance remains almost the same when it was brand new.
@[Deactivated]: If you work in any form of storage field in IT though, you'd know your experience is far from the norm.
Did you note which firmware version the drives were?
Or more likely, since its across 2 drives, the model and manufacture date of your SATA controller on your motherboard?
Sounds like you've found an incompatibility you might be able to claim a bug-bounty on.
I have more than 500 users hitting a mix of 840 and 850 drives in a raid6, and they're absolutely flawless.
I also have 3 standalone in my own system.
@MasterScythe: Did not really pay attention to as those were fixed on Dell workstations and IT guys would have typically just go ahead replace them with brand new ones. I got to know it was Samsung 840 etc. was simply because I had data on them to be retained and I really did not want to redo my system again thus used dd to do a sector by sector clone and thus noticed how speed dropped from 400MB/s to around 30. Funny enough, I was blaming the hdd at first, thought SSD not likely to go wrong.
For individual drives, that could be simply be lucky or unlucky as we don't really have a whole batch to test. But for speed drop, I don't think I was alone. When I found the system was laggy, searched online and saw lots of people complaining about similar issues.
I'll never go near Crucial again. My MX500 was fine until it exceeded capacity with a downloaded Epic game and absolutely blew its brains out, so badly even the BIOS can't see it any more. Know my experience is rare, but it couldn't have been worse.
@Roddi: exceeded capacity? How? Os will simply not allow you to do that. IMO it was something else, and was just coincident. Unlike HDD, seems SSD tends to die suddenly without warning.
Date First Available 13 November 2017
i think thats when it launched
Is this no good as a boot drive for desktop then?
I was going to replace the SATA out of a older i7 desktop.
Compared to spinning hard drives, it'll be better but at times it will slow down to be just as slow as a mechanical HDD due to poor random read/write speeds. If you're using it as a boot drive you're better off spending the extra $15-20 and go for an SSD with DRAM.
Get the crucial mx500 or the samsung evo 860
https://cplonline.com.au/crucial-ct500mx500ssd1-mx500-500gb-…
https://cplonline.com.au/samsung-mz-76e500bw-500gb-860-evo-2…
Good point about Amazon
I just ordered 2x mz500 500gb from Harris Technology at $84.10 each (free postage)
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/aw/d/B0786QNS9B/
They have a deal where if you spend $100 with Harris you get 1yr of ESET 3user 1yr license free
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/aw/d/B0787YXKV2/
Just add to cart and gets discounted to free. They also have a promotion that if you buy ESET you can get a free lightning cable.
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/aw/d/B07F617VLB/
Add that to cart and also free. For $168.20 I got the two ssds, the 1yr sub & a lightning cable. Pretty good.
That other one you first linked is a bit cheaper but it's sent from Amazon US via Amazon AU and won't arrive until December, the Harris Technology one said if I ordered today I should have it by Wednesday at the latest.
Cheers, pulled the trigger b4 reading all comments. I'm doing up a old computer for a pensioner friend. This will be good.
Thanks
Guys is this any good to use in an external drive enclosure?
if you want it to work like a flash drive, then maybe.
if you want it to perform like a proper external SSD, then no.
Explain please
It is a dramless model, meaning it slows down under sustained writes pretty badly, similar to QLC drives.
Basically it is the equivalent of a BX500 or QVO rather than a MX500 or EVO (edit: with WD owning Sandisk now, it is basically a WD Green not a WD Blue - maybe not exactly but another point of reference)
So it depends how you want to use it really and what your expectations are - you wouldn't use it as an external secondary drive for video editing on the go with your laptop for instance, but as a secondary drive to backup the primary to, or install games on, or just hold a horde of movies/TV shows, it is fine.
@smashman42: I thought that too and got a dramless BX500 and it's pathetic. My hard drive is faster. Copying a game folder onto the BX500 and the transfer rate quickly drops to 17MB/s
I originally had it in an old laptop (5th gen i5 cpu) as the boot drive and it started off okay but after a few months it took over 15 minutes for it to boot from bios into the desktop and opening chrome would take over 3 minutes.
Horrible drive, would never buy dramless again. Spend the extra couple bucks on a TLC drive with dram cache.
@Agret: I know they suck under certain circumstances and can be as slow as hard drives, but that boot time makes me think maybe yours was a dud?
Why so many up votes? This is PLUS, not ULTRA.
Helps to move these off the dusty shelves…
this is basically a WD Green, and are more than likely using a controller which are commonly seen in USB thumb drives. Avoid unless you don't care about speed and durability.
Also Sandisk SSD Plus have serval revisions, the earliest version was using MLC, so online reviews will not represent the performance you get.
are more than likely using a controller which are commonly seen in USB thumb drives
Where are you getting this information from? I can't find a single source that says this and it doesn't seem even possible from a quick google search.
I read this in a few places - they replaced the controller in newer versions of the WD Green SSD with a controller normally used in USB drives. No idea if it's actually true though, as I've never seen it in any formal reviews - just forums.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/brand-new-120gb-w…
"You see; WD first came out with a WD Green which used 15nm 2D TLC NAND combined with a DRAMless controller from Silicon Motion (SM2258XT) and… well it is not a very impressive drive. However WD updated the WD Green to use 3D TLC NAND with what looks to be a rebranded controller from Phison usually used in USB flash drives with only a change in model number to indicate a change (new version is G2, old version G1) and its performance is even lower than the first revision."
This doesn't mean this Sandisk SSD is the same as the WD Green (as WD like to change parts).
WD owns Sandisk, all WD SSDs are come out of Sandisk, what's the odd of they actually invest more money to produce a different design for a low end SSD?
Info are from Chinese review/teardown.
@OMGJL: You're talking about a different product and claiming they're the same, despite having different specs and the online reviews stating they're not the same.
First gen WD used Silicon Motion SM2258XT and the second gen uses a rebranded Phison PS2251-03.
First gen Sandisk used a Marvell 88SS1074 and the second used a Silicon Motion SM2246XT.
Only the second revision WD is a USB 3.0 controller.
@[Deactivated]: The Sandisk SSD Plus has been rebranded multiple times. I don't think you will end up with those controller you see in the reviews.
@OMGJL: Did you even read my comment? As I said, there's two revisions of this SSD: the G25 and the G26 (which is this very product you're commenting on). That has the Silicon Motion SM2246XT.
I don't think you will end up with those controller you see in the reviews.
You don't need to think, just read.
@[Deactivated]: https://post.smzdm.com/p/a99v675o/
you sure there's only 2 revision? why don't you want people to think?
The manufacturer never guaranteed what chipset they will use in that product did they?
you sure there's only 2 revision? why don't you want people to think?
What's the point of the link? It doesn't say anything about a third revision.
This thing is in fact a thumb drive.
What do you think is wrong with 500/390mbps read/write? What are you expecting from a SATA SSD?
And you've posted benchmarks from different capacities. Do you not realise lower capacity SSDs are slower? That's the same with every model.
@[Deactivated]: Last reply to you. I can see you are not very good at SSDs when you start rambling with that sequential read/write.
No point to proof myself to newbies.
The reason for SSD to be significantly faster is because the 4k performance(the ability to locate and read small files around 4kb size), it's never to do with sequential read/write. (as a side proof, that's why SSD is still as fast when it's connected to SATA2 connector under half speed)
I specifically mentioned you to check 4k-64 performance, one of the post have a comparison between 860 evos and this sandisk rubbish.
You don't need to think, just read.
I dunno, the sweet spots 1tb for pc.
I'd get this, if you have a ps5, or laptop.
It's $98 now
Nvm I had selected Amazon UK instead of AU
the number 480 gives me blue balls
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Does this version come with DRAM?
Too many SanDisk models