First post, hope I didn't mess up. Looks like ozbargain's favourite fan is back at a reasonable price. I'm not ordering any more as I've ordered more than 20 since joining ozbargain
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 120mm Black/Black $10.11 + Shipping ($0 with Prime & $49 Order) @ Amazon UK via AU
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I think as case fans they'll both be very similar, however p12s have a couple more CFM. Might be wrong but I think they'd also be better with more cluttered builds or SFF, as they have a better static pressure rating. I and many others use these as case fans, and many prefer to as they can be used as rad fans later on if you decide to go with water cooling
Get the P12 which are pressure optimised and better at pushing air. Both should work but P12 are more versatile.
Waiting for a white ones…
Just out of curiosity how many builds do you have to require 20+ fans?
Bought some for my friends as well :P got some spares in case any more of my friends want me to build them a computer and need extra fans.
Do you build for customers also, if so are you Melb based by chance?
Unfortunately I'm in Sydney. I do build for customers but it probably wouldn't be worth it for you since I'm not local. I'm sure there are plenty of people that would be willing to build in your area, or some computer shops with building services at least.
I personally think 3 is the optimal amount for most builds. Two front intake and one rear exhaust. Can put one or two exhaust at the top but diminishing returns.
That said I'm tempted to deshroud the GPU and attach a couple P12s to it.
Same reason I purchased 4 for my NR200 build. Will probably only use 1 tbh, as even 2 gets diminishing returns as exhaust in that case. And with aircooling, bottom intakes appear to negatively affect thermals (idk how that works). I can also use them if I ever decide to get a higher TDP CPU and want to go with a 280mm AIO. They're pretty versatile
I'm all about those diminishing returns yo. Nah I just like having a tonne of fans in my build, and I can always take some out later if anybody I know ever needs some
Glances over at 4 intake 1 exhaust…
@ATangk: Nah got 3 in 3 out
@Traffic Cones: I have dust filters on all the intakes so I want positive pressure, but I don't want to put the open top on my case to put another exhaust up top.
@ATangk: Fair enough. To each his own
When you're making a multiple radiator build, 2 x 480mm, 1 x 240, push pull. + case fans.
Yeah, who doesn't have 2 480mm radiators and a 240mm one as well nowadays, geez
Glad someone understands.
Noctua have some interesting stats on their web and some of the testing sites have looked at push/pull and suggest that the pull fan only adds marginally to the cooling effect of a push fan.
From a cost effectiveness view, paying for a quality pushing fan is a better investment….. but if your temps are at the margin, two might make a difference.
I just bought a phanteks P400A case for a pre build (with stock fan on 5600x). Will this fan be of any use? Thank you.
You'll probably be fine with just the stock fans, but if you want a bit more cooling you could grab 1 or 2 of these and add them on (assuming you got the one that only comes with 2 fans). If you have prime, you can add some other international prime items to reach the minimum for free shipping, and then cancel them straight away.
man i only need one. What else to buy for $40!
Literally anything :P just order the normal p12 5 pack or something and cancel it right after
oh what there's a loophole? Shit didnt even realise this
Shhh you didn't hear it from me
AMAZING!!! This is life changing.
What else to buy for $40!
Prime. Pays itself off very quickly.
I have prime, but it's an international item so $49 spend required
But Traffic Cones answered my question anyway!
Oh when did it become Prime AND $49 spend?
@Clear: It has been for a very long time i believe. Only time's it doesnt apply it during holiday sales IIRC
$10.11 now due to exchange rate.
Thx, updated
On aliexpress there seem to be similar fan but not sure they are the same
no way german fans can match aliexpress
ARCTIC F9PWM F12PWM F14 PWM and PST 9cm 12cm 14cm 4pin 200-2000 RPM computer cooling fan quiet cpu power cooler Chassis Case Fan
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPovdmD
It is F version anyway… And not cheap though
Cheers OP, got a few to replace the fans in my old Fractal Define 7 case!
Absolutely in love with these fans (have 2xP140 and 2xP120). My case is dead silent now, and the noise level doesnt change whether benching, rendering or gaming (all temps are 55-60).
Haven't seen P14's on sale in forever.
I got them from here: https://www.playthek.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords…
price is USD
got it in a box with big tape saying "Made in Berlin"
Got the P12 5 pack from the deal on the weekend. Going to mount 3x intake, 1x exhaust and I am going to fit the last one under my gpu to exhaust out through PCI brackets for a bit of extra exhaust for the gpu.
they are perfect, but having the option for rgb would be nice. just feels empty inside.
Very keen to see the performance in the carbide 540. Gonna replace some ~4-5 year old phanteks fans. Getting a bit noisy.
Can't seem to get free delivery ordering 5 at over $49 threshold, what am I missing?
Not Eligible:
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST - 120 mm Case Fan with PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, Quiet Motor, Computer, Fan Speed: 200-1800 RPM - Black/Black
These items are from a seller other than Amazon.com.au and are not eligible for FREE Delivery.$49 threshold when buying overseas is for prime members only.
Ahh theres my mistake! misreading the title - ($0 with Prime & $49 Order)
Would these be suitable to ventilate a box storing a compressor in an off-road vehicle? i.e. would they handle vibration?
I suppose they're not meant for it, but given the price I don't think there's much to lose and they're definitely quiet. You could always use some rubber washers (or inset other solution) to dampen vibration when mounting too
Want to add fans to my solar inverter. Cooler equals more efficient..
Going to run 3 fans in series off an 18V solar panel (real world they will get about 4v each). Sun goes down, fans stop. Bright sun, fans driven harder. Under cover and out the elements.
Been running a laptop cooler for proof of concept. Dropped the inverter temp more than 30C, gained about 2-3% more output.
Anyone recommend a fan other than these? To draw air up and out from the heatsink.
I run 2x 120mm computer fans to cool my solar inverter! temps have dropped as much as 20+c on scorcher days and the lowest benefit is still about 6-8c.
My setup is that I have a GPO nearby, so I use a Kogan smart switch on it (found a 4 pack on ozbargain and they have some amazing uses) which has the app integration so it's timer'd to turn on and off as I desire, which is about ~30 mins either side of solar production starting/stopping. I have modified a spare 12v DC power supply to have a PC case fan header/connector on it, then a 2 way splitter and the two fans are DIY mounted at the top (which in my case is the only place they can go) as exhausts.
Bloody dramatic difference and from all my testing just about any fans will do as long as they push air. I'd wager 4v each is a bit low, but 18v will burn them out quicker, I'd recommend a setup similar to mine (given they're only on when power is being generated anyway) or a 12v panel and running them in parallel not series.
These fans in particular are very nice, you could run them at 12v / full speed and the noise would not at all be obnoxious given inverters aren't generally placed where you will spend a lot of time wanting things to be dead silent. I've run old server fans that are absolutely mental at full speed, pulling 12v 1.9A and pushing 170+ CFM, lowered temps even further but yeah, the jet engine effect was audible inside the house.
Feel free to DM me to discuss if you'd like!
Cheers mate. It's just madness that they don't put fans on inverters by default. The inverter was 82C the other day (won't last 10 years like that). A $15 laptop cooler (that comes with 5 fans) dropped it 30C and I can't hear them running standing in front of the inverter. These fans probably won't last long though (the air coming out was 63C according to my IR thermometer). So my current setup is basically what you have (but using basic old HPM timers). So want to simplify it. Keen to look at the Kogan smart switches. Don't suppose they have anything that monitors energy output itself and switches itself on/off accordingly? I have a few microinverters that can be run through a basic gpo energy meter to provide a data source.
So looking to have a setup that says something like, when the panel is outputting more than 200w (which means the string inverter is likely clipping), turn on a powerpoint (connected to charge the car etc).Yeah it is madness, the first summer I had solar (last summer) after seeing Temps even in the 70's I was like, I can surely improve this and the Temps speak for themselves.
As for the lifespan of the fan, I'm not too worried, I mean I use them as exhausts in a gaming system with a RTX3080 that sheds hot air like a little heater and that's what they're built for, so my bigger concern for longevity personality is the outdoor use.
The Kogan switches show you the energy useage of whatever is plugged into them, with robust timers, scheduling and live/historical energy use, but I'm not sure there's a way to trigger them on/off based on solar generation.
How are these compared to Noctua nf-s12b? (if anyone knows)
more pressure optimised than outright airflow optimised than those Noctua's iirc, but still flow air in the conventional enough manner, and for the price they're hard to beat.
Would these fans be worthwhile purchasing for NZXT H510 case (which requires only 2 fans)? I also have a CoolerMaster 212 with one fan as well tht I could replace the fan with — computer is noticeably loud and reaches ~68 degrees while gaming. Thanks!
How do these fans go on longevity? Anyone have stories of arctic p12s failing on them?
Anyone got these delivered yet? Shipping is taking forever from the UK
Is the F12 better as case fans? Or the P12 is just as good?
F12 PWM PST is $10.28 from Amazon UK Amazon.au