This is just a possible pre-emptive Q. Can a developer connect their new stormwater connection into my existing stormwater LPOD in the street kerb. It's my understanding they need to provide all their own new connections.
I'm in Vic. Assume I call Council civil department if they start doing dodgy works.
Thanking in advance to those with constructive responses.
OK. Will call Council Monday. Just thought someone might know the regs on this issue. I believe they can't.
Did you ask them?
What exactly are they connecting into? Are they tapping directly into your pipe?
My pipe is castiron which goes to the kerb and channel abd its right next to the boundary of both properties . It's old.
If they're providing their own pipe to the kerb and channel then it's probably legal - providing they don't worsen your stormwater or downstream
Yes. They will be down stream as I am. on the higher side. Will keep an eye out as to whether they touch my pipe to the street. If they have approved civil plans it should be as you say to their own pipework.
https://www.melbournewater.com.au/building-and-works/work-or…
These are the guidelines but chat to the council about what permits have been issued.
Are they stealing your stormwater?
Hah. No they are driving me crazy in lockdown. I am WFH and they are constantly beeping, banging, drilling, digging by bob cat, noise from pump, swearing by the tradies, not wearing masks, car pooling without mask, not social distancing and then going to my local shops, having their lunch breaks without masks close together as a group snd sharing smokes, starting at 7am, parking in no standing side of street and blocking the narrow street. No stealing yet that I know of. 😊
But other than that, no complaints?
No complaint at all in fact to authorities on the other matters. The tradies do as they please. The quicker they get the work done the better. As long as it's to the regs. The authorities don't give a sht. Just trying to look after my own property to ensure nothing is damaged or touched.
If by chance you live next to a unit development for the last 7 months and at least another 3months or more, you'll know what we are going through. Thanks for the helpful advice. All I ask is for anyone to comply with the regs. If they are not doing the correct thing in regards to the stormwater. I have a right to ensure that it is being done correctly. All that other bullSt I mentioned is my rant and just adds to the reason I want them out of my neighbourhood as soon as possible.
@Melb69: Sure I have no problem with that part of your complaint. We had to put up a whole shopping centre being built across the road once…arrg. The bits about (anti)social distancing and mask obedience however are wearing pretty thin for me and lots of other people. :)
@EightImmortals: OK. Yes it is wearing thin, but if your in Vic it is only going to continue to being the norm wearing masks. It's not that hard. By the way suppose you don't care that these essential workers share fags, travel together without masks in the car, and then go to all the shops near by and everywhere else.
@Melb69: Nope. Couldn't care less. But don't get too upset as I fear the rest of the country/world is not far behind. On the other hand I think JP summed things up quite nicely this morning (under 2 minutes).
@EightImmortals: I stopped watching Dictator Dan's daily Bullst awhile ago. He likes his own voice. I just want us all just do what we need to do, so we can all see this through in Vic. It's an economic shame and no wonder why everyone is going banana's.
@Melb69: Yep my brother and dad live there so I know all about it. As for 'getting through it', don't get your hopes up.
I don't recommend this book but the reviews are worth looking at if you want to know what the agenda is: https://tinyurl.com/yxzplpno (From the World Economic Forum).
@EightImmortals: "agenda"…..
Got ya
Do you have a copy of the meeting minutes where all the government's got together for this secret plan?
:/
@HelpMeiCantSee: Well if you cant: a) read what I wrote 'I don't recommend this book' and b) Realise that your 'conspiracy theorist' is actually the executive director of the World Economic Forum then c) You might as well put on your slave mask and take your experimental DNA altering vaccines.
What did the police say?
Police have not been called. Why would I bother calling hem with my stormwater. That makes no sense.
going to my local shops
Maybe its their local shops too? Or maybe shops are for everyone?
Fine if they are doing the right thing in terms of a Covid worksafe practice's. Which they aren't. How do you think Covid gets from a shop in Chaddy to Kilmore. Someone going to a Cafe. Suppose your motto is Covid for everyone. All I am saying is that if they are allowed to work. Work within the confines of that site. Wear your dam mask when out and just stay in your work bubble.
Thanks for your constructive input to my thread.
@Melb69: I think your points are perfectly valid. It bugs me seeing morons not following medical advice. There is an apartment construction next to my office and the workers there are breaching distancing guidelines constantly when in public. As soon as one gets it, the rest will follow.
Shit. Everything you have said sounds unpleasant but tolerable, except swearing. I’m shocked that adults would swear! Fully grown working adults?!? Colour me pink and call me Gary.
The stormwater will require council inspection. It will only pass inspection if it was consented in using the existing pipe and the pipe is suitable for the discharge units for both properties. Using the existing pipe will save cutting footpath so would look better than having a footpath with a patch across it
From your comments it sounds like they doing normal building work which can get annoying if you spend too much time at home. But you should understand they are just doing their job and sounds like they working within their consented hours and they doing a good job as you have only very minor common complaints that are expected during a building project.
Depends on the council so call and ask for the drainage engineer.
Generally, a new development will require a new lpod connection to kerb if it's a new property. If it's replacing an existing dwelling or adding to it, they'll be instructed to use the existing connection. In areas where the kerb is bluestone they may ask to consolidate the kerb connections to preserve the bluestone for a new development. This only applies where there is no drainage pipe in the road, otherwise they should be connecting to the pipe.
They may have also been asked by council to install on site detention which will limit the flow and delay it's discharge so it doesn't impact downstream drainage as much.
Ultimately, from a drainage perspective it is possible a new connection to your LPOD could impact you. If you have connected pits at ground level (say a driveway) the additional flow could restrict the outlet and create a surcharge on your property. If it's just your gutters connected to the LPOD, then you will unlikely have problems as the driving head from your roof line will push the stormwater through.
TL;DR - council should have given them LPOD requirements, call and ask for the drainage engineer.
Thanks for the detailed response
Yes, it’s not “yours”.
A mate of mine had a developer work on a block next to his place. Had this exact issue - and the developer pulled down the fence to dig a trench through to the point of discharge.
I can't speak to your case, but in my friends case they (he lives in one of 6 units on his block, all owners felt the same) went ballistic at the developer - who ignored them and told him he could do it legally. Things got very heated.
The owners group contacted the council and the relevant water authority, and it was learned that, actually, no - in his case, the developer did not have a legal right to use their point of discharge. He was trying to bluff his way through and save himself $. He was forced to do it properly.
So, in short… maybe. I'd start by contacting whoever bills you for stormwater.
Before they connect they have to have a drainage engineer issue a storm water drainage plan & certificate of compliance.
We re doing it at the moment even though the roof space is smaller than existing.
What did your council say when you asked them?