I received a speeding fine for the camera at crown st and oxford st in Sydney city. The fine says I was driving 58 in 40 zone.
This was at 9:42pm. How can I confirm that this is actually a 40 zone?
It sounds crazy that it's that speed at night.
Also anyway to dispute this fine…
How can I confirm that this is actually a 40 zone?
Go back and drive past at 45km p/h. Wait a few weeks..
They usually adjust for a few km/h for error so if you're driving past at 45 km/h according to your speedo I don't think you'll trigger the camera.
Your speedo displays faster than your actual speed.
So the reality of it that the speed OP was probably displayed in their vehicle would have been in excess of 60km/h. Well over the 40. And since it's urban, built up area, well over the 50km/h limit. Either way, OP knew they were speeding.
On Google streetview you can see 40 sign posted and marked on the road just before the camera.
Speed zones don't change at night. Go back there and see what the signage says. It's probably been marked as a high pedestrian traffic area making it 40 at all times. It wouldn't surprise me if there's other older signage confusing the matter. I know on Darcy St at Westmead going past the hospital it's a permanent 40 zone yet also has school zone signage indicating the hours of the school zone which could mislead you into thinking it's not 40 outside of those hours.
That's probably the new red light speed camera. And yes, it is a 40km zone. I got caught as well the other day. You should be able to see the pics from the SDRO web site. Just need your penalty advice number and date.
Live with it.
Most of Sydney CBD and fringes are now 40km/hr zone * I am mad *
Here is some news about the expansion of those new slow zones
see post on Sep1 from sydney's lord mayor
https://twitter.com/CloverMoore/status/1300560037924933633
https://www.smh.com.au/national/sydney-slows-down-as-state-g…
From Clover's tweet: "This research from the WHO also found that the risk of death or serious injury is reduced even further when a car is travelling at 30km/h or lower."
Who needs research to tell them that the risk of death or serious injury is reduced when a car is travelling slower? They'll probably also need to do further research to see if the risk is higher or lower when cars are doing 0km/h. Unbelievable!
Wait until you come to Liverpool where it’s 30km/hr …
I heard on the radio that there is talk of the whole of Melbourne CBD and surrounds becoming a 30 zone. In normal times probably can't go much faster anyway.
That's been up for discussion for a while.
What pisses me off is, they've openly said that it's to discourage cars from driving through the CBD… Pedestrian safety, etc is further down the priority list somewhere!
Reducing the number of cars makes it safer for pedestrians though… take it as a win
More like "creating a carpark" - more of a carpark than it currently is… lol
Reducing cars isn't a bad thing for me. I have to drive into the CBD anyway, so the less traffic, the better.
Pedestrian safety? They don't give a damn, too busy staring at the phone to worry about getting bowled over.
OPEN YOUR EYES
Get a car with GPS that shows the speed limit on the road where you are.
Relying on GPS is a recipe for disaster.
Depend on what GPS, if you are talking about the obsolete one then yes. I am driving Forester and the speed limit warning is very accurate and on point especially on school zone. Thanks for the neg anyway.
Does it pick up temporary speed limit signs? Road work speed limit reduction signs? Newly erected signs?
You do know it takes about 6-9 months for a new permanent sign to be added to a GPS dataset?
Actually I was caught speeding here too and was give a warning. Oxford street has recently been reduced from 50 to 40 and people were given warning letters before penalties came into affect.
You can try and ask for leniency and ask the penalty to be reduced since its a high range speeding notice (above 15), but either way you're going to get a fine.
If you're using Waze app, it will remind you when you're going over the limit with a beep.
That's if the Speedzone has been put in?
Comments that say 'use this app' or 'get this technology' are very concerning. Drivers should be looking at the road ahead of them, reading all signs, watching all other road users and driving appropriately.
Anything else borders on carelessness.
Nah, come on… I'm going to use the "But Waze didn't beep, so it's still xxkm/h in that area…" defence next time. Seems like a solid excuse…
Totally agree, I use it in addition to being vigilant on the road. Human make mistakes, the technology helps us to minimize them.
Considering how often speed zones change in some areas, or in others how far apart speed signs sometimes are, having additional info provided by an app by Waze is very helpful.
I wouldn't take it as my only speed zone indication, but it's sure useful as an additional piece of info to verify what you currently believe the speed limit to be.
reading all signs
Do you drive in the Sydney CBD? If you read all the signs, you will kill someone because you have no time left to watch the road!
You gotta filter by priority. i.e. Read anything with red on it, the rest you can live without.
Thanks for posting OP and TheMindsetTraveller's SMH reference article.
We occasionally drive across the bridge to Centennial Park, etc. Would not have known without your sacrifice and could have missed signs with whining kids in the car.
Username most certainly does not check out!
Some areas in the Newcastle CBD are now 30 kph… 24/7. Stupid. Just to accomodate people crossing the road staring at their phone.
Can confirm that street is 40km/h and yes there is a red light & speed camera. I think the road used to be 50km/h.
Yes. Correct. Used to be 50km but somehow changed to 40km this year and installed the red light speed camera. Bugged.
I think it's bloody ridiculous, people will spend more time watching their Speedo rather then eyes on the road…
40km/HR may as well be idling in 1st gear, that's why I moved out of the city so I can drive a few ks and be on the highway 110km/hr open roads, no traffic!
The reduced speed limit and higher chance of getting done makes the Eastern Distributor toll look like a bargain in comparison.
Yeah…but how can we really confirm it's a 40 zone :)
Fight it BRO!
Its just revenue raising for politicians pensions and this lot here love it…. convicts!!
When I'm stopped on Crown waiting for the light to change, I regularly see people get flashed at that intersection.
Speed limits are too slow in this country.
So you thought it was 50 and were still speeding?
40 km/h zones
The 40 km/h urban limit is part of a nationwide strategy to improve safety in high pedestrian traffic areas, such as busy CBD zones and small suburban shopping strips. The 40 km/h limits are also marked on signs to show local traffic zones and road work zones. Signs and pavement markings show the start of 40 km/h pedestrian areas and include:
Standard 40 km/h speed signs
Pedestrian activity signs
40 km/h pavement numerals (roads with painted speed limit numbers)
Most 40 km/h pedestrian zones are requested by local councils, community, police and transport authorities and submitted to local traffic committees. Our guidelines assist in the implementation of timed 40 km/h speed limits at schools, on buses (when lights are flashing on the back of buses) and 40 km/h roadwork zone speed limits.