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MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio Video Card $649 + Delivery (Free C&C) @ PC Byte

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MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio Video Card $649 + Delivery (Free C&C) @ PC Byte
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TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 00:22 pcbyte.com.au (520 clicks)
Last edited 24/09/2020 - 11:23 by 1 other user

If you A) need a decent GPU now, B) can't be bothered battling bot buyers, and C) wanted a better/cooler/quieter/faster card than the recent and cheaper Evga, Galax and Gigabyte deals, then this is the cheapest price for a top tier 2070S (so far…)

The MSI RTX 2070S Gaming X Trio (3-fan) version is overclocked up to 1800mhz boost but is apparently the quietest of all Turing air cooled cards. It is a big unit so double check your case for space, but upside is you probably won't need to buy a new PSU to run it.

PC Byte has a shops at Auburn and Hornsby with free collect. $9.90 shipping to QLD for me. They do charge 1% for PayPal on top.

I spotted this while buying a Gigabyte Aorus B550i Pro AX ITX motherboard for $299 w/ free delivery; also the cheapest I've seen (same price at CentreCom so B550 prices are dropping)

For those looking for a GPU deal now, I hope this helps.

For everyone else, bring your popcorn or pitchforks and prepare for GPU comments cliche/bingo commencing in 3-2-1…

EDIT: MSI have a promo till 30-Sep to get Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Seige Gold Edition free with any MSI RTX 20x0 purchase. Redemption details here. Also available from other brands for RTX 20 series purchases before 30-Sep. Nvidia promo link

EDIT 2: Here's a quick market summary for readers who haven't followed latest developments:
* Nvidia are launching the next-gen RTX 30-series cards now. The 3080 launch had big issues and RRP's stated haven't been realistic due to stock shortages vs demand
* The RTX 3070 will be launched 11pm AEST October 15th with RRP of $809 AUD for the Nvidia Founders Edition. mWave has an FE exclusive but purchase is via a 'raffle'
* AIB (add-in board) branded 30-series cards may be released then but RRP will be set higher than FE due to low AU channel supply at launch
* AMD are announcing Radeon 6000-series on October 28th, with product launch sometime after. Prices, specs and availability are still unconfirmed
* These factors are driving down prices of RTX 20-series GPU's now, and ongoing. This GPU's RRP is AU$1079 so speculation of sub $500 deals are not yet a reality
* RTX 30-series performs better but uses more power (i.e. check your PSU). They won't be readily available for some time so 20-series clearances offer great value for now
* If no rush to buy, you will see better GPU deals than this in coming months.

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  • Aidzy on 24/09/2020 - 00:25
    +3

    Waiting for the "just spend another 400$ for the 3080" comment

    • Tyler Kwok on 24/09/2020 - 00:27
      +29

      just spend another 400$ for the 3080.

      there u go! lol

    • Jamie777 on 24/09/2020 - 00:51

      I wanna spend 400 more but can't find any 3080 to order.

      • String name on 24/09/2020 - 10:31

        There are none in stock but you can place a back-order.

        Just remember it is a queue, so the longer you wait now, the longer you will need to wait once there is supply.

        All the back-orders I have seen have allowed cancellation and full refund; so that's manageable risk.

  • Bargainjustifier on 24/09/2020 - 00:26
    +4

    Brave man

  • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 00:34
    +30

    For those wondering what the OP is referencing: the RTX 3070 will launch in 3 weeks starting at around $750 to $800, with a performance increase of around 40-50% over this card. That places the intrinsic value of this card below $500.

    Over time, more performance will be unlocked on the 3070 via additional features, and an improved version of DLSS that makes use of the new series' updated tensor cores. That hurts its value further.

    In addition, it is rumoured there will be a 3060 Ti shortly after, said to offer 10-20% better performance than this card at launch, with the same additional features and updates over time, at around $475-$525.

    Even if you can't wait, consider alternative options. Remember that you might have a spare GPU, a mate with a spare GPU, or your CPU's internal GPU. Hang on for 20-40 days and reap the rewards.

    • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 00:56
      +3

      Good summary on the situation thanks.

      I'm skeptical but hopeful on seeing tri-fan 2070S GPUs sub-$500 this year. However I reckon there's Buckley's that a quality RTX 3060ti will be under AU$525 by Christmas NEXT year.

      • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 01:03
        -2

        I'm predicting a USD $325 RTX 3060 Ti. The chip is set to be heavily cutdown and the RAM fairly cheap, so it's going to have better economics about it than the 2060 Super did.

        The 3060 will be a USD $250 card using a smaller chip, probably a cutdown version initially. It's still possible these might have different names, but there will be RTX cards at every price point.

        • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 01:20
          +7

          And I thought I was a 'brave man'!

          You're saying we will be buying 3060's, 20% quicker than this card, this year, in Australia, in stock and under AU$400? Desperately looking forward to you posting those deals as you find them. Your 100 day deadline starts now

          • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 01:25
            -4

            @TheLurker: You misunderstand, it's probably looking like this:

            RTX 3070 8 GB - $500 USD - 46/48 SM, GA104 chip, mid-October
            RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB - $325 USD - 38/48 SM, GA104 chip, late October
            RTX 3060 6GB - $250 USD - 30/36 SM, GA106 chip, 2021?

            Then you need to factor in GST, maybe some delivery costs. We'll all be hunting deals for nearing $450 though.

            • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 01:30
              +10

              @jasswolf: If you can post an local in-stock decent brand 3060ti deal sub $AU500 this year, PM me and I'll give you $20 for proving me wrong. I still think there is no chance that's happening. Far too much glut in the market for wholesale and retail here to allow demolition of their entire gpu stockpile. We will see the same as 3080. Crazy hype, local stock shortages, jacked up prices, and tiny Tim twiddling his thumbs this Christmas because bots are the new grinch. It's Jensons game and FE is the loss leader to set a bar. Supply and AIB chains won't play by those rules at volume until they clear the turing backlog. NV subsidies will only get unit prices down so much. Until then, let the comments continue

              • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 12:01

                @TheLurker: Not interested in bets. Even a USD $350 launch price would wind up with a sub-$500 deal this year.

                Your fear mongering when the mainstream enthusiast chip stock levels aren't even known yet is absurd. The GA102 is the more difficult chip to manufacture but still had normal launch allocations for an xx80 card considering demand estimates. The GA104 should be in far greater volumes, even factoring in early demand (which genuinely was a factor, alongside bot farms, for why the launch was so massive/quick, and this has been verified).

                Australia has long been at the mercy of some select (profanity) suppliers, and I have been saying this for years. Proof is in the pudding with a $1500-$1650 ASUS TUF 3080, literally their MSRP card that goes for $700 USD pre-tax. Dodge MSI, ASUS and Gigabyte cards from AU suppliers/retailers until everybody gets their shit together.

                Go beat your chest outside and work off the energy mate, better for you than handwaving arguments when you can't even cite sources or data.

                • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 18:15

                  @jasswolf: I'm genuinely confused by the argument here.

                  We both agree that these unreleased GPU's a) don't yet exist, b) have huge demand hype, and c) and AU suppliers are going to keep prices high. My only disagreement is with your optimistic and varying predictions above.

                  There are no local supplier stock sources, and no actual price data for these future cards. We can all speculate based on history and market conditions but until we can buy them here prices and availability are nothing but vapour.

                  I'm just going to post good deals as I see them and hope you'll do the same. Until then, let the comments continue

    • jenna12 on 24/09/2020 - 01:04

      Pretty keen for a 3060 Ti/Super (or 1760 or whatever they name it), especially around 100 watt TDP and ~$400 with 2070 performance. Lofty goals, but we'll see. AMD will drop some cards before then anyway so who knows the size of that spanner. Interesting times indeed.

      • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 01:07
        -3

        Incredibly lofty! $400 on sale next year maybe.

        TDP will be around 180W, but it seems these cards are well extended past their optimal on the power-performance curve, so that could be tweaked down to 130-140W without too much trouble.

        It'll definitely be an RTX card, not GTX. There should even be an RTX 3030.

        • jenna12 on 24/09/2020 - 01:10

          Exactly, I'll drop 10% frames for silence any day of the week, haha.

    • p1 ama on 24/09/2020 - 05:18
      +2

      the RTX 3070 will launch in 3 weeks starting at around $750 to $800

      Paper launch. Remember the 3080? Hardly any stock, most orders won't be fulfilled until November, with widespread availability unlikely to be available until well into 2021. Remember the $1139 price? Even if you got stock at launch, nobody paid close to $1139 unless it was that raffle, with the prices based on the compiled data (on average) being close to $1400 or thereabouts.

      This is with the 3080, the 3070 will be even more popular. So you can put two and two together.

      Basically your statement should read "the RTX 3070 will be widely available in around 6 months, starting at around $900 - $1000" if you wanted to be more accurate. That does change the landscape.

      FWIW, I wouldn't pay $650 for a 2070S right now, even based on the fact that the 2070S has been as low as $584 just a few days ago. I think ~$550 is probably the "fair value" for this card right now, so I broadly probably agree with your sentiments. However, let's not kid ourselves, the 3070 won't be in our hands in 3 weeks.

      Hang on for 20-40 days and reap the rewards.

      *** 180 days

      • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 12:26

        Take this conspiracy crap to some two-bit YouTuber. The 3070 and 3080 volumes will be very different on account of being two different chips, not just slightly different SKUs.

        The 3080 chip is actually 15% larger than the 2080 chip despite a 85% denser proccess. Manufacturing wise, it has more in common with the USD $999 versions of the 2080 Ti than it does with the 2080, and yet the supply well exceeded that.

        Please don't come into the comments with this melodramatic nonsense until you watch this video. If you can't invest the maximum of 30 minutes in that (skip to the 15 minute mark if you only want to hear direct comments on volumes), you certainly shouldn't be in here spouting paragraphs about how it's all a charade to create hype for NVIDIA and retailers to sell cards at 30% markup.

        Some retailers and suppliers in Australia clearly (profanity) up, but many didn't. Those retailers and suppliers should be punished by both the ACCC and by consumers going forward, and your comments only serve undermine that push.

        And all of this is overlooking how many dopes just spent $1100-$1400 on a GPU when they still have a 1080p 144Hz monitor because 'moar framez'. Please, for the love of everyone's sanity, check your facts.

        • p1 ama on 24/09/2020 - 15:08
          +1

          How is it a conspiracy? What I'm cutting is literally what just happened with the 3080. Demand was huge. This isn't unique to GPUs, same goes for the PS5, Xbox…etc.

          We can speculate how bad delays will be, but let's not kid ourselves that stock will be good at launch. Not to mention all the unfulfilled 3080 orders the will switch to 3070 one that launches.

          I want to be optimistic, as I actually want to buy a 3070 or 3080, so I want to believe you but it's hard given what we're seeing with everything else.

          • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 15:17

            @p1 ama: Demand has been huge all year, this was 10x previous launches in terms of interest.

            Watch the video, even despite this interest and demand, October stocks will smooth this out fine. If AU retailers and suppliers can't manage to get involved in that, they deserve to go out of business.

            A typical wafer will produce about 2.5-3x more GA104 chips than it would for GA102, so even with the increased demand, stock should be ok after the first series of orders, particularly if NVIDIA announce a second GA104 SKU at launch (3060 Ti), as rumoured (and also seen in roadmaps and some benchmark data online).

    • The Almighty Dollar on 24/09/2020 - 08:12

      Apologies for the noob question, but when you say “ Over time, more performance will be unlocked on the 3070 via additional features”, do you mean that this would (and normally is) achieved through physical updates on future cards or unlocked through software updates to the initial cards?

      • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 09:07
        +1

        Decent question. Nvidia adds in more hardware features than AMD does. This has positioned geforce as much more useful for non-gaming tasks. Examples are NVENC for hardware video encoding, cuda cores for AI acceleration, and lots of developer tools and support to encourage advances beyond gaming engines alone.

        Examples include inbuilt hardware support in Python coding environments, media tools from co's like Adobe, and recently Nvidia Broadcast. The last one is actually very useful for non gamers working from home as it does an amazing job of noise cancellation, and an OK job of virtual Green screen. Broadcast only works with RTX cards.

        With new ampere architecture it's viable more software companies will use nvidia hardware acceleration in their products but exact benefits (particularly those that can't be ported to any RTX chipset) probably dont exist yet. Even if nothing more than driver support, the next gen will be more future proofed

        • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 12:09
          -1

          Decent question

          Shocking answer in the context of a consumer graphics card.

          • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 18:48

            @jasswolf: What shocked you? Real examples, or giving a plain-language answer?

            Poster asked about unlocking additional features and I shared RTX already comes with extra hardware features vs AMD that devs are using for new ideas. I could have said "same-same but faster" but that wouldn't have answered his question.

            I hope your day improves

              • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 20:22

                @jasswolf: Yep. All good info. Question was addressed to you, but was asking how to get the 'unlock' you listed through hardware upgrade or software update. There's no magic way to turn a 3070 into a 3080 like a Tesla paid "unlock" upgrade might do on a car, and nothing like an add on co-processor planned.

                Shocking answer apparently, but correct and none of the things you listed don't work on 20 series (unlike DLSS which was new to 20 vs 10 series).

                I'm not aware of anything exclusive to 30 series yet, so assume the future unlocks you refer to will be built by developers software kits like Broadcast Studio and may be software locked only to be exclusive to 30 series in future (like Voice for 10 series or 3x NVENC streams for 20 series both of which were cracked). Otherwise it's just same but faster and better due to more memory and throughput. Is there something I missed?

                • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 22:45
                  +1

                  @TheLurker: The hardware features aren't locked, the driver support came through in May with the H1 2020 Windows 10 update.

                  It's simply a matter of on-going developer support to bring these features into games. VRS is reasonably straight forward, but something like mesh shaders needs a bit of a re-tooling in game engines. We'll see Unreal Engine support in Q1 2020 at the latest, but don't be surprised if it's typically 6-12 months before this starts appearing.

                  The other ray tracing features are possible today, but not a priority due to the lack of hardware RT performance overall because the technology is very nascent. They'll use RT cores for lighting for a while unless a developer comes up with a low-cost system for surround sound emulation, or something along those lines.

                  DirectML has barely gotten out of the gates either, and that will be the cornerstone to DLSS alternatives and AI features in DX12 games.

                  In terms of exclusive features, the 30 series supports sparse matricies, which allows for a more efficient rate of ML computation, which means (in time) a more powerful form of DLSS that only Ampere gaming cards can use. The 8K DLSS feature we're now seeing due to DLSS 2.1 is the first step on that journey, one that will probably take the better part of the year and be announced with the card model refresh. When that happens, DLSS should offer 9x scaling (i.e. 720p base resolution for 4K DLSS) with the same graphical quality as the current DLSS performance setting.

                  Outside of that, gaming Ampere also features an improved ability to perform RT and traditional graphics concurrently, a feature they're calling Async Present, which seems to provide a 10-15% compared to the current RT performance in its first implementation, but the goal of the technology is for simultaneous RT and de-noising/compute workloads (previously the architecture could only do one or the other). RT motion blur was also mentioned as a feature that could be utilised in the new architecture without hampering the remaining workload.

                  There's also the concurrent FP32 instructions that can now be done, but that will need to be more specifically leveraged by developers, as well as several new ML/compute data types that might be able to be leveraged in gaming workloads for speedups. There's also HDMI 2.1 support, AV1 hardware decode, and RTX IO.

                  RTX Voice was available to 10 series cards from day one, it just costs more performance and was locked behind a device ID check. You can unlock as many NVENC streams as you like if you know what you're doing, it just comes at the cost of GPU bandwidth and latency. The 3x feature was unlocked because everybody who was doing content creation was trying to do it anyway.

                  You can read more about what the GA102 can do in NVIDIA's whitepaper: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-30-series-ampe…

      • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 11:44
        +1

        The short version is: mesh shaders, sampler feedback, variable rate shading, an improved DLSS. These represent substantial performance improvements for standard gaming use cases.

        For VR, these cards are also capable of foveated rendering when the time comes (as are Turing cards), but right now refresh rates on VR headsets aren't there yet.

        Outside of that, the tensor cores are capable of providing a boost for machine learning related tasks over time, such as faster (and also lossier) physics simulations over time, better AI opponents, better procedural generation (terrain, NPCs, etc). Ray tracing also unlocks better physical simulations of things, such as audio techniques for improved 3D simulations, weather effects, and more.

    • Ema000 on 24/09/2020 - 09:38

      Sorry, but I don't think your information is 100% accurate.

      Firstly, The suggested retail price of the RTX 3070 Founders Edition will be priced at $809, which will be the absolute minimum set price.

      Secondly, in regards to availability of these Founders Edition cards, if people thought the RTX 3080 launch was bad, supply will be even more limited as the RTX 3070 GPU is the more affordable option.

      Thirdly, there is no way that AIB cards will be priced at the suggested price, as was noted when the RTX 3080 launched. The suggested retail price was $1139, with AIB cards going for around $1299 and more expensive options even reaching $1600.

      Thirdly, rumours just add to the hype of the newly released cards and "% better performance" doesn't mean anything when it's just speculation.

      • spad on 24/09/2020 - 10:17
        +1

        https://www.ple.com.au/Products/643060/eVGA-GeForce-RTX3080-…

        There are AIB marked at $1139.

        I don’t understand why people are so obsessed with highend AIB. They all come with auto boost and the room to further OC is tiny. Paying $300 more for extra 3fps doesn’t make sense to me.

        • combatant on 24/09/2020 - 11:15
          +1

          I agree that paying a significant premium generally isn't going to result in a tangible performance difference (depending on model), but there are multiple reasons people might choose one over the other including - size, aesthetics, cooling performance, sound.

          These other factors might sway people into spending a little more an an alternate AIB model.

      • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 11:55
        -1

        We've got the US elections coming up, and shipping lines and air travel are slowly coming back online. I'm expecting both the USD and a portion of the additional logistics costs that we're seeing on these cards to drop off a smidge.

        Just one of them improving in our favour is enough to keep things in the price range, both would see the price move below $750.

        Your recollection of the 3080 launch is way off, and it should be noted that only specific brands (read: specific suppliers) were offering massively overpriced cards, and then some retailers were massively overpriced on top of that, and that was only a significant phenomenon in Australia.

        As for your second third point (I might suggest here you take a walk to freshen up your mind) most of the 3070 specs are not rumours, the architectural performance is not a rumour. You're looking at 70-75% of the 3080 depending on core and memory clocks for a given card. Once you can reasonably verify the specs of the subsequent cards, it's similarly straight forward to estimate.

    • benald on 25/09/2020 - 09:22

      Where are you getting the 750-800 price range?

      The FE cards are 809AU, which means the branded cards will be $850+. Also with the 40-50% increase in performance, the 'intrinsic' value would still be at or over 500, from your numbers, 750 / 1.6 = $500, 800 / 1.4 = ~$571.

      100% agree with a 3060, but it's only rumors at this stage.

      • jasswolf on 25/09/2020 - 12:14

        Sparse matrix support and ASync Present are a factor for future DLSS implementations on Ampere, as is concurrent FP32 performance.

        I also commented on exchange rates and logistics costs, though I note that everybody is buying gold in the US again.

  • Jamie777 on 24/09/2020 - 00:39

    https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-2070-Super-vs-Ge…

    Performances : 3080 100% 2070s 66%
    Price : 3080 $1000 2070S ??

    3080 is for 4K users or 3dmark score freaks.
    3090 is for 8k gamers or 3dmark score freaks.

    • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 01:01

      I'll give you a grand for your 3080? X-D

    • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 11:59

      https://www.techspot.com/review/2099-geforce-rtx-3080/

      On average:
      3080 is 86% better at 4K
      3080 is 60% better at 1440p

      Keep in mind that the CPU, GPU and game engine bottlenecks that are contributing to this disparity are being worked on, with DX12 ultimate and mesh shaders being a big part of the puzzle. UE5 and Vulkan will be another big puzzle piece there.

  • Tomika on 24/09/2020 - 01:03

    Will this be cheaper in upcoming black friday sale?

    • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 01:23
      +1

      I think there is a good chance it will be cheaper then. How much, I'm not sure. If you can wait, I would do so

      • Tomika on 24/09/2020 - 09:54

        Checked 2019 sale, seem liked will be cheaper. Will wait.

  • Bargainjustifier on 24/09/2020 - 01:04
    +2

    price performance ratio is not supposed to be straight but rather exponential. That being said 2070s should be closer to 400-500 rrp but we know that wont happen soon.

  • vid_ghost on 24/09/2020 - 07:48

    You forgot about option C..wait for AMD .. they will having something faster and cheaper that uses less power then this

    • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 08:18

      Probably true, but I'm expecting general availability will be next year. New Radeons have less non-gaming benefits than RTX series and rumours are they weren't expecting 30x0 to have such a big uplift. Producing next-gen console APU's and Zen 3 CPU's are their priority for fab lines so while I'm keen to see announcements in a month big navi may not be meaningful until 2021

    • p1 ama on 24/09/2020 - 08:46
      +3

      wait for AMD

      As someone who has a 5700XT in one of my rigs, I wouldn't recommend waiting for AMD. There's just too many issues with AMD, least of which were the buggy launch drivers. I own every generation of GPUs going all the way back to the 6800 Ultra. Never have I seen such bad drivers as for the 5700XT, and I thought the R9 290X was bad, but the 5700XT was definitely much worse. Drivers for AMD didn't mature until at least a few months after launch.

      That's not to mention a whole bunch of other features that AMD is lagging behind in. The AMD H264 encoder is just garbage, with OBS support being hacky and temperamental at best whilst the NVENC encoder is just as good as CPU x264 encoding. This is not just useful for live streaming, but if you have to transcode a lot of footage for whatever reason, your computer can be twice as fast now, as you can have two instances of Handbrake (or whatever FFmpeg GUI), with one using x264 and the other using NVENC and the quality will be the same.

      Of course, there's also the issue of CUDA as well, which is far more well-supported than OpenCL. There's generally much more support for developers on CUDA, most compute tasks run (generally) better on CUDA and Nvidia does open up new doors like TensorFlow…etc.

      FWIW, if you just want higher FPS and that's all you care about, AMD will be fine. But for anything else, AMD is a tough sell.

      • klaw81 on 24/09/2020 - 09:24

        Totally agree - I have a 5700XT (my first AMD gaming GPU) and I'm pretty keen to be rid of it.

        Drivers were woeful for ages after launch, and still buggy as hell. Weird glitches and artifacts in games occasionally, random crashes and overheating issues. AMD's tuning software is straight-up garbage and their built-in game capture features are unreliable. Never had any of these issues on Nvidia cards.

        I'm glad AMD is competing on price and performance to keep Nvidia honest, but I'm happy to pay a small premium to get a solid, dependable card that runs nicely out of the box.

  • mackdiddy on 24/09/2020 - 10:25
    +2

    Even as someone who ordered an RTX 3080, this deal is still good if you need a card before the end of the year. It's doubtful you'll get a 3070 at anything near MSRP before next year.

    • jasswolf on 24/09/2020 - 12:33

      Every manufacturer and supplier is saying October will be fine for 3080 cards. Launch demand and launch hype was astronomical. PC parts sales have been astronomical all year, and Australia is actually an outlier in this sense. The manufacturing challenge and chip volume for the 3070 is very, very different from the 3080, so that's going to be a non-issue 2-4 weeks after launch.

      Make note of who has been selling 3080s outrageously overpriced (or only stocking from dodgy suppliers, ala the MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS cards), and don't give them your business until they get the message. Flame me all you want in 8-12 weeks time if I'm proved wrong.

      • mackdiddy on 24/09/2020 - 16:47
        +2

        Flame me all you want in 8-12 weeks time if I'm proved wrong.

        Nah but I hope you're right.

  • KYoohu on 24/09/2020 - 17:11

    Technically this graphic card should last your average joe a few years right? My Raedon R9 380 (4 years old) is about to die so…. and running 3 monitors all 1440p might have to do something with it… because sometimes the monitors won't turn on.

    • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 19:00

      It might not be about to die but could have a few issues with configs and drivers. Are you getting any errors? You might browse windows event viewer app logs after a lockup and spot an issue. Would hate you to buy a new card then have the same issue recurring.

      As far as lasting, it probably depends on what you use it for. It's got epic cooling and is a quality brand.
      * If you're using three-displays for the latest MS Flight Simulator then it's probably not going to cut it
      * If you're using three-displays for day trading or work tasks, media and some design, plenty good enough

      • KYoohu on 24/09/2020 - 19:59

        I've fiddled around with the cable configuration (e.g. swapped the HDMI, display port and even DVI cables around). As for AMD driver, it is updated to the latest. I'm not sure about this 'windows event viewer app logs' you're talking about. Just clarifying, the monitors are stuck in power saving mode when I start up the computer.

        • TheLurker on 24/09/2020 - 20:19

          Got that. I'm guessing you have to hard reset the computer to get displays back? If so it could be that the machine has frozen and displays not waking is just a symptom. Without more info it's a guess though.

          If you are on Windows 10, if you click in the 'type here to search' start bar and type "event" it should show the icon for the Event Viewer app which is preinstalled in Windows. If you run that, it should bring up the window to filter out logs. Click on Administrative Events and look for Critical (red cross) or Error events (red exclamation) event logs between the last time it worked, and when it wouldn't wake. Alternatively you can click on Windows Logs and browse for the same level through the sub-categories. Look at the 'source' column for each and you might find a common thread of what's crashing. Hopefully you might find something that looks like it is recurring and related. You can then google search the error codes and MIGHT find a useful answer. I'm not an expert, but can share an opinion and next step ideas if you want to send a PM

  • equinoxxx on 25/09/2020 - 15:05

    appears to be sold out now.

    • TheLurker on 25/09/2020 - 19:10

      Marked as expired. Thanks for the tip. Hope it's been good for those who got it.

      My best guess may be PLE to run a sale on that card next as they cleared their 2080 Gamer X stock but sort by availability lists the Gamer X 2070 high in the list. Current price $929 so hope they come to the party with an even cheaper deal than this

      • VictorC1227 on 26/09/2020 - 14:28

        To bad it's out of stock, what will you choose between this card and the 629 gigabyte 2070 super with SSD? I am just not sure I should go with gigabyte or wait for another MSI deal.

  • TheLurker on 26/09/2020 - 16:58

    I know there are boatloads of gigabyte cards available in the market but after such a huge volume of people complaining about fan noise, rattling, and revving it would drive me mad. It's disappointing but gigabyte is the very bottom of my list. The ssd deal is very cheap, but I think there's more discounting to come before they clear them. I'm waiting for a strix deal as they are quiet and have two hdmi and usb c, so it suits my needs more for media streaming at events ($699 at umart, or $749 for OC version) . If not for that, my budget pick would be a 3-fan Galax EX.

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