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my experience with high capacity san-disk thumbdrives is that they get really hot when moving anything that justifies their large sizes. used a 64gb for transferring large files between my home computer and the ones at campus and it would get almost too hot to touch after transfer. is this just a thing with thumbdrives or a san-disk problem?
These particular kind are quite wide. If you are planning to use these where the USB ports are side by side, you might have to unplug the other device before plugging this one in.
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Same. Can’t seem to get free shipping on mobile site.
Anyone know if this works with PlayStation Classic when plugged into a powered USB 3 HUB?
Use an OTG adapter ($3). I didn’t have much luck with my lexar 128gb but that’s might’ve been a coincidence.
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The 128GB drive has write rates of around 34MB/s, which is pretty abysmal.
Are you sure it is USB3 and you are plugging it into a USB 3 slot?
That is around the maxiumum speed you would get from most USB 2 ports. (My maximum is <38MB, I just found this out a few hours ago copying files)No, I don't own one, I just did a little digging. Extremely frustratingly Sandisk/WD don't publish IO figures for these drives, which I find ridiculous. I found some results on the nirsoft speed test results page: https://usb3speed.nirsoft.net/?pdesc=SanDisk+Cruzer+Glide+3.…. There are a few examples of the 116/117GB USB 3.0 Cruzer Glide and they range from 30MB/s to 44MB/s, while read speeds are in the 120MB/s to 134MB/s range. They're definitely not getting those read speeds from a USB 2.0 port. I have a couple of the older Extreme Pro USB 3.0 drives and writing large amounts of data to those can be a pain at 140MB/s, you'd have to have a lot of patience at <50MB/s. Even the highly rated Samsung Duo USB-C drive only gets ~50MB/s sequential write speed, despite the 300MB/s read rate - caveat emptor, I guess I'm just surprised that fast write speeds are still restricted to a tiny number of high-end drives in 2020. Personally waiting on a price drop of the SDCZ880 drives…
Personally I am fine with slower speeds but 50MB max on more expensive drives does seem slow for anything over 32gb. Then again I am pretty patient with file transfers and don't really use USB sticks much to begin with, just a 128gb one for my TV and some random ones for documents and etc.
Have you looked into using an m2 drive/NVME+USB adapter? There's cases you can get for them and then using USB3 or USB-C you should get much better write speeds. I don't think there's any value in spending any extra for an NVME though (not that there seems to be any price difference)
Something like this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001297316228.html
I haven't used any but I'm sure they'd function just like a classic custom external HDD would, except modern.
Plus then you can get much larger capcity too. By the way Orico is one of the better brands out there so if you were to get that model you shouldn't have any problems, but always shop around anyway :)@Astrom: Orico has been good to me
@Astrom: Haha thanks @Gaxx, I should have mentioned I'm in IT, I have USB flash drives going back to 2003 and a collection of external drive enclosures that cover pretty much every type of media ever made (you never know when you're going to need one). Where large file transfer is required I certainly do use an NVMe drive in a USB-C enclosure - I think there's a Seagate Firecuda 1TB drive in there right now. I mostly use USB flash drives as multi-boot tools - I run Easy2Boot with about 50 or 60 ISO's on them, you can swap the boot loader in to boot whichever one you need from the drive. But time is money, so when I need to copy large files for some reason, I don't want to sit around waiting for a stupidly slow drive.
No offence, but I don't use Orico personally - I've seen quite a lot of their devices and haven't been impressed quality-wise. I use quite a lot of Anker gear and have very few quality issues with those. Startech is quite decent, but I'd never buy it here - the markup in Australia is utterly stupid.
@TrevorX: Yeah I can see why you would need that speed. I used to do PC repairs and my boss would only use HDDs for 90% of things or standard USB sticks. I haven't tried to do a USB bootstick with heaps of ISOS in a while, but when I did I used YUMI, but I'm sure times have changed a bit now.
I dont take any offence to you not liking a brand :P
Honestly I just threw a quick search into aliexpress and they popped up and I was like "Oh yeah they have a good name". I didn't really want to bring up a generic one even though it could be fine, I figured anyone willing to pay a premium for a faster USB drive would be willing to pay a premium for a not-shit quality m2 enclosure.So question for you since you're probably a little more clued in than I am about these m2 and NVME drives. Are NVME backwards compatible to fit in and work from m2 slots? Will they just run at SATA speeds? I've tried googling but it doesn't really help since the terms are too generic to search.
@Astrom: Ah, the M.2 confusion. Don't worry, you're not alone - most non-hardware-techs are confused by it until they make a mistake and buy the wrong thing, finding it doesn't fit, then trying to work backwards to figure out why.
It's probably best to start here: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-th…
That's a great article that I link to pretty regularly.
In a nutshell, the M.2 slot is actually for a lot of things - originally called the Next Generation Form Factor (NGFF) while it was in development, it's a little bit like a PCI-Express slot, but instead of being universal for every sort of card, M.2 slots are keyed for specific purposes, which allows the manufacturer to map the pins to a specific controller type (it's possible to make them universal, but having all that controller logic in silicon is expensive and wasteful when you're only going to use one function for the duration of its life). The key types are A, B, E or M. A and E are usually for wifi and mobile broadband cards, B is for SATA SSDs, and M is for NVMe cards. The numbers you've probably seen like 2280 relate to the dimensions of the card (or available length in the device or board). A 2280 card, for example, is 22mm wide, 80mm long.
So the quick answer to your question is, an NVMe card is a M keyed M.2 card that will only work in an M keyed slot. It's fairly common to find M and B keyed slots, which support both SATA M.2 and NVMe M.2 cards, but if your device only has one key type, you can only use that one type of drive (you should be able to find that in the device spec sheet). Older laptops before about 2014 typically only supported SATA drives, for example, but NVMe is definitely the most common type you'll find in 2020.
Bear in mind that lots of manufacturers had dodgy mistakes in their documentation in the early days, too - it's extremely common to see devices called 'NGFF M.2' drives when they mean SATA. You should pretty much never see the term NGFF used anywhere ever, as it was deprecated when the standard was released as M.2. But you see confusing mistakes like that all the time - I once upgraded an HP Spectre X360 whose spec sheet said it had an mSATA SSD, but it actually had a B keyed M.2 drive, so it was just as well I did my research or we would have bought a $600 drive that would have been useless. ;-)
@TrevorX: Cheers dude for typing all this out, ultra helpful
Have had a massive number of Sandisk devices fail over the last 6-8 years to the point where i have lost all faith in the brand.
Failed devices have mostly been USB flash drives and Micro SD Cards and includes their Extreme Pro products.
In addition to this the absolutely abhorrent performance of their devices is also terrible.
The Sandisk of today are not the Sandisk whose CF and SD products i used in my cameras 10+ years ago.
I totally accept that there might be people out there that have been lucky enough to have not had failures, but with such a high personal failure rate and the poor support following the failures I'm going to neg on those grounds.
I've had people argue this before, so to prevent arguments the rule is clear, i am entitled to a negative vote per the 'Voting Guidelines' - Issue with product.Don't Sandisk have pretty good warranties for their flash memory? I know they used to give lifetime warranties back in the early days (LIke 8gb and before).
Yep, lifetime warranty.
One of the things that gave me confidence in them early on.
But after so many failures what's the point?Most common failure mode is having the device write lock, so at least there is no data loss.
I use Samsung mostly now, didn't think much of them at first but they have proven more reliable over the last few years and are growing on me.
Not sure what Samsung's warrant is to be honest, but they've not yet failed me.
It will probably happen at some point, but as long as it isn't a 60% failure rate within 3 years that I've experienced with Sandisk they're ahead.Warranty does not equal reliability.
That is a pretty horrible luck rate you've had there. I guess you also actually use the USB sticks unlike most people who kind of use them on occasion. What do you use yours for? I assume you know that flash memory has a maximum amount of times it can be used?
Then again they do make Endurance cards so maybe theyre just cheaping out on the lower end cards write capacity and bank on the idea that most people wont ever fill a stick/card let alone do it multiple times.
I always get Samsung and Sandisk confused anyway due to my retardation. Like they both start with "Sa" and have an "s" in there so its the same?? Right?!
@Astrom: I actually don't consider myself heavy user.
I have had many over the last 16-18 years, but each one individually has had a pretty light life.Used Sandisk initially as a keen amateur photographer.
Compact flash followed by SD cards.
By amateur i bought Extreme Pro cards for their reputation, but rarely shot raw, and shutter count after 3 years was about 4000 on a Nikon D80, so in the scheme of things not a lot of work spread over 2 cards.
Assuming 6MB per JPG that 24GB data written over 2 cards, so ~ 12GB each, probably 8GB cards back then, so overall work done not enough to fill both cards once each.
With the wear levelling the Extreme Pro's were supposed to have that means every memory location on the card was probably use once only.Later i mostly used the micro SD cards for additional mobile storage, so very little data written.
I might update my music library on the SD card every few months.Would also use USB Flash drives for minor data transfer tasks, just like anyone else i guess.
Most recent one that failed was under a year old and had seen use once or twice a month by my son, a student, using it to copy the occasional word doc.Was about 4-6 years ago the failures started, several micro SD cards, and several flash drives.
About 2 years ago i swore off them completely and reluctantly moved to Samsung.The Samsung cards have been pretty good so far, there are also some Lexar MLC cards I'd like to get hands on for use in a Raspberry Pi, but finding genuine stock in a store i have access to is proving surprisingly difficult.
Performance wise, both sequrntial and random the Samsung EVO+ cards 32GB and over have proven surprisingly good.
I have several of these running as main drives in several raspberry pi's.I do still have a Sandisk SSD in service, and an endurance uSD in a dash cam, but after so many failures of just one brand I'll not buy them again.
All cards that have failed have been verified not counterfeit, either at purchase/delivery or after failure when suspecting a counterfeit could be the cause.
Given how many counterfeit articles are around it pays to be suspicious.So long story short, was a keen Sandisk user, but after a failure rate exceeding 50% in the last 6 years or so i actively steer away.
@virtual81: Given your experience I can see why you would stay away. Not sure who downvoted you but w/e.
I would have thought that many failures and you would start loooking into your hardware used to access/use the cards with, but that can be much more difficult to figure out. But if the Samsungs haven't given you grief then you probably did have dud cards.
Anyway, hope in the future we have more companies making chips or the general market shifts so there is less rubbish and fakes out there, or at least fakes that don't have problems.@Astrom: I've had different hardware over the different failures.
The most recent was a USB flash drive used across Gigabyte, Asus motherboards, a thinkpad and to fetch screen captures from lab/test equipment.As you say in the same home environment the Samsung devices have not given me any issues, and ironically they have been worked harder than the Sandisk drives (OS drives for Raspberry PI, moderate continuous random R/W workload).
Totally possible that it was a bad run of luck for me personally over multiple different devices (SD, uSD, USB Flash), the sample size it not huge, but the percentage of failures is >50%, so statistically unlikely it's just bad luck.
I've considered environmental factors but can't think of anything, use is predominantly indoors and in a partly static controlled environment (not that it should matter, but it does for other things i do).
The USB flash drive that most recently failed spent some time in my son's back pack, but there are other drives that have failed with white glove use.
When i kicked off using Sandisk CF drives years ago i considered them to be the market leader in reliable flash, so I've not always hated them, but Sandisk have changed hands and management several times since those days, leave me wondering if they've lowered standards or modified their processes.
Anyway, too many times burned now, i believe I've been more than fair to them but i need reliability more than a long warranty.
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