Suggestion: There should be a blacklist set up for anyone who is posting for the first time.
Anything which links to Catch of the Day, Scoopon, or anything mentioning Ministry of Paintball should be rejected automatically.
Yes, that is all.
First Post Blacklist
[Deactivated] on 05/11/2011 - 14:45
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at an average of 14.3 positive votes, I'd hazard a guess that catch of the day is one of the more popular retailers on here. That is despite the hate campaign by some of our, (presumably), younger members on here.
They do good, bad, and indifferent deals….. if we black list them, we lose the good deals…. (if we haven't already lost them to helpful negs like "negative..bcos cotd", etc).
You also have to wonder about things like this… http://www.ozbargain.com.au/user/49166/voted
only voted 3 times, all done yesterday, all on old cotd posts….. why might that be I wonder? Perhaps just enjoying the mob mentality, or perhaps something deeper, who knows?define "younger members"
perhaps 'newer members' might have been a better way of putting it…..
Although there are 'older' members who still don't quite seem to have got the hang of the negging system…. eh?Although perhaps they too enjoy the attention that inappropriate negging might bring them…..
who knows
I'm not saying completely blacklist them, just prevent first posters from submitting them as their first post.
Also out of curiosity, where can you see the average positive votes? IS it also possible to see the average negative votes and percentage of first-posters?
doubt it, best ask Scotty personally. AFAIK there is no voting metric system other than the one you already see
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/deals/catchoftheday.com.au
actually….. I'm assuming they are positives….. it doesn't actually say
Yeah that's just 14.3 votes on average per post… I'm not a gambling man (ehh anyway…) but I'd be very surprised if the +/- votes weren't somewhere around 5+ to 10- per post, and that ratio would be even higher if unpublished posts were included in the tally. Even higher still for members making first posts.
This is a link that the mods usually use to scan through new posters:
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/deals/n00bposts
It lists out deals posted by 1st timers and those on red-P. Actually not as bad as people think…
I'd be very surprised if the +/- votes weren't somewhere around 5+ to 10- per post
well… did a quick tally of the posts from 21/8/2010 onwards… the only unpublished ones seem to be dupes or at request of the poster…. no idea if they were first posters or not…. immaterial really…. anyhow…. some 172 deals posted in that period
2471 +
436 -Which works out at 14.3 positives per post… so maybe that average figure is for positives….
Cancelling out positives with the negs leaves around 11.5 positives per postyes…. it's been a quiet evening :)
Nice work!
From my brief scroll through, it looks like the majority of negs in the 1st time poster list come from the reps. I wonder how those stats look if we take the reps out.
COTD has a few negfested deals as well, mostly due to insufficient stock. I'm not sure how to react to that - I can see why those negs are there, but COTD has had deals where there was enough stock for everyone. You never really know for sure though until the bargain is posted though.
To remove rep posting, go to the New Deals page, click on Preference under the heading and you get option to hide rep postings from the new deals page. They will still show up on the home page if they reach the required threshold.
one also has to bear in mind that some of the negatives say nothing about the deal or the retailer….
example being the latest one http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/56493
Clearly it's not a good deal, but
"dignity"
"LOOOL"
"as above"
"wow"
"lolol"
"oops COTD"6 negatives that really shouldn't be there. I suspect that of the 436 I counted previously, a significant proportion would be mob negging like this.
But isn't this the whole point of the voting system? The good deals get positives, the bad deals (regardless of what member or rep posts them) get negged until they disappear from the standard view. So the system democratically purges the bad deals from the view of (most) people without having to resort to hard bans on particular sites.
(I do agree with banning Ministry of Paintball though, so sick of having to explain why their deals are bad! :D)
I have bought a few things from COTD, and Scoopon. Most of the stuff I am not interested in, but occasionally I find something interesting.
I have had no problems at all with these vendors.
Negs like "because COTD" are just pathetic.
Sounds like a n00b idea. There's still lots of good deals on Catch Of The Day. I'd be happy with a first time poster posting something like this as their first post: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/53799
They are certainly many good deals with CoTD. However,
- Sometimes the best ones are posted by QQQ and he often gives this community some exclusive discount.
- People have been shooting down CoTD's offers without looking at what the offer is about. I'm still thinking about how to deal the mob mentality here at OzBargain.
- Many new members might not be aware of how to do price comparison, and automatically associate daily deals site with "cheap price".
and your reasoning is?