I see many stores advertising "Kent" pumpkins as "Jap" pumpkins, the "Jap" being short for Japanese.
E.g. Harris Farm
Is using the word "Jap" politically incorrect? Genuinely curious.
Edit: Apparently Jap ISN'T short for Japanese?
Is the word "Jap" politically incorrect?
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Google has told me that JAP just means "Just Another Pumpkin" because they didn't know what to call it.
Do Japanese people find it offensive?
I asked my Japanese friend about this and he says no. But it had origins in WW2 when US marines would call them that for short, and because the marines were dicks to them, everything they did and said was considered offensive, including using 'jap', and it just caught on from there as being offensive.
yes, very offensive to Japanese Americans.
You're probably right.
My Japanese friend has been in Australia a long time and he himself uses the word Jap or Japs to refer to Japanese people. I ask him why, and he says, you need an abbreviation and there's no other abbreviation, especially if you use it in text a lot.
@lostn: My Japanese friends just say Japanese or Nihon (whatever it is in Japanese). The Americans just say JApanese-American.
Is Aussie offensive
It’s all context, and given the item is a pumpkin then no
i would say it varies from person to person.
The thing is, Aussie is not an exact abbreviation of Australian. You would need to use Jappie for a 1:1 comparison.
@lostn: Jap is acronym in the pumpkin name
I get called a Viking or whale hunter daily by my colleagues , care factor 0
@lostn: I'm struggling to understand why this distinction matters.
Shortened words are not inherently racist, if jap is racist then it's only because of how it was used during WWII ie as a derogatory term for the enemy with all the associated and exaggerated racial stereotypes.
But frankly I don't think there is anything wrong with portraying your enemy in a war negatively. I mean, fundamentally you could argue that it's "racist" to send out state sponsored agents (ie soldiers) to kill another group purely based on their race or nationality. So war is inherently racist in my view.
Shortened words are not inherently racist, if jap is racist then it's only because of how it was used during WWII ie as a derogatory term for the enemy with all the associated and exaggerated racial stereotypes.
I agree. If the Americans did not use that term during WW2 and post-WW2, the term itself would not be considered derogatory today. Which means it isn't the abbreviated word itself that makes it derogatory, but how it was used back then and by whom. It would probably be a commonly used word today if it weren't for that.
If someone occupied Thailand and called the people "Thais" when they were enemies in war, Thai would be a derogatory word today. I can't think of any other reason.
@lostn: You mean prefix not abbreviation, jap is hardly an abbreviation for Japan.
Either way it’s irrelevent to the point I was makingHow the hell does any shortened name on its own become offensive, it’s the bloody tone and context it’s used in.
Is Croat, Serb, Swede, Fin, scot, offensive
Wonder if my rotti gets offended when I say rotti.
Or ambo driver
I wonder if the servo gets offended.
Aussie Pumpkin FTW
@Forkinhell: What I don’t get witH the Pom name is how can someone from England be a Pom if it refers to convicts that went to Australia.
It would be the Australian who is more likely an ancestor of the pom.
And yes double standards, Pom is thrown around no worries at all but it was ruled no racist. You can only complain if your the minority
@Forkinhell: Who says Afghani? Isn't it an Afghan? And that's actually the term people with the nationalists from Afghanistan are known as.
@kanmen: People do say Afghani. It's literally in the country's name.
People also say Pakistani, Hyderabad, Azerbaijani, Bangalori, Iraqi, Irani etc.
@Forkinhell: Pom might not come about exactly the way you think:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pom-pilot/
Let's leave this one to the context and intent…… So I'd say no personally. On the same topic I wonder how the word Nip is viewed being the shorthand of Nippon 日本 or nipponjin? It's had been used badly in the past, but I wonder how it applies in a modern context and what native japanese view it.
You got a point. There are Japanese people who aren't very familiar with "Japan" word, and are most accustomed to "Nippon". But honestly, I don't think "Nip" is used as a derogatory term since it is an actual English word (eg: nip it in the bud). And it's probably has closer connotations to the word "nipple" anyway.
"Jap" is much more frequent, and it was a derogatory term during WW2 and after.
It's hardly used in USA anymore (usually old folks), and rarely used internationally as an offensive term. In many places you will see JAP as an abbreviation for JAPAN instead of JPN. There's never an outcry.When I was in Japan, I actually asked this question.
The younger generation were like "nah, it's cool, we like that nickname", the middle-aged people were like "huh, I don't know/care?", the older generation were like "yes, it is offensive". So if you use Jap, just don't use it around older people. The middle-age and younger generations are okay with it.Even though Australia did go to war with Japan, it seems our history has been patched quicker than most. So I don't see this as much of an issue in this country, as it would be in USA or Japan.
we used "nip" word in the 90s. I thought it was basically dead nowadays. I wouldn't dare use it.
Jap Pumpkin on the other hand is just short for Japanese Pumpkin. I wouldn't be offended if a sign said Leb Cucumber. Habib Cucumber on the other hand… (I lie. I'd probably burst out laughing, take a photo and it to my family, they'd all laugh.)
As always, context and intent is everything. Don't think I'd ever say "Hey, so are you a Jap" but I don't think Jap Pumpkin is derogatory.
The term 'Nip' is derived from the Japanese name 'Nippon', being the native name for Japan.
If the 'J' in 'Jap pumpkin' has a capital letter, then it is an abbreviation for 'Japanese'.
If, however, the name is 'jap pumpkin', then it is the name of the variety of pumpkin.
Supposedly. But Scot, Fin, Swede, Afghan, Pole, Thai, etc aren't (when referring to a person), so it's probably a one off exception.
It's 'Finn'. Scando-Finno-Lappo-phobe!
my bad. Please don't cancel me.
Can’t shorten aborignal or Pakistani though.
All context and whoever arcs up
Jap pumpkin is the full name, it isn't short for Japanese pumpkin. The story goes that to market the pumpkin better they called it Jap which is an acronym for Just Another Pumpkin.
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This is nonsense, they are a Japanese variety (kabocha, or カボチャ) and they were called Jap because of that. Later, people objected to it because it's a racist slur. Instead of recognising that and changing it to something different, the growers made up the story you're repeating.
It is not even a Japanese variety. The supermarkets occasionally sell kabocha which is actually completely different in taste and textures. Vast majority of it is exported directly to Japan. We are lucky when we can buy it.
You remember that scene in the movie Kenny where he's explaining the origin of the word "shit" as "Store High In Transit"? There's a law of etymology that says if the purported etymology is an acronym, it's probably false.
Is using the word "Jap" politically incorrect? Genuinely curious.
Its a shorter version of the world, it would be like saying is Aus politically incorrect for Australia.
OZ, please :)
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Straya c*** is the full term
Yes I thought that would be the same case with the word 'Abo' but the term is considered offensive to indigenous Australians.
I had never the intent to be rascist and I'm sorry if it came out that way. When I first immigrated to Australia I thought the term 'Abo' was a shortened version of aboriginal like other common shortened words said by Australians.
@Phlume: It is a shortened version, however in my opinion has too much of a negative connotation to be used nowadays so its best to be avoided.
Can't really be that offensive if Nintendo use it on their regional cartridges.
interesting.
It's an automatically filtered word if used on certain gaming forums. You can get your message deleted and warned for using it. You are advised to use JPN if you want to shorten Japan or Japanese.
The amusing part there, is that JAP is more often used for ROM discussion rather than racism.
I'd say yes. Mainly because according to my Dad who was born in Japan (Australian father, Swedish/Danish mother) and then later returned to Australian and fought against the Japanese in WW2 (Borneo, Makassar, Sulawesi etc), Jap was a derogatory term. He later worked for the Federal Government in Japan and always told me growing up, not to call Japanese Japs.
Does he think it's still relevant today though? What about those that weren't part of WW2 or even American and thus don't have those connotations? Just as words become un-PC, surely they eventually fall out of it too.
We have this debate a lot in the UK on the term 'Paki' which is short for 'Pakistani' obviously. It can have negative derogatory connotations but more often than not doesn't as isn't meant anything different than 'Brit' or 'Arab' or 'Thai' etc. Some Pakistani's take offence to it, although most I've met don't. Tough to call.
Yeah, he was still against it right up until he passed away last year, at the age of 93. Personally, I'd also find Paki derogatory.
Is the name "Aus" politically incorrect?
based on my comment above saying the same thing that has been downvoted. It appears so.
The word Jap is not just an abbreviation like Aus. It's often used in a derogatory context so there is weight behind it.
That's what you don't seem to understand. People say it to belittle others.
Yeah we're talking about pumpkins here, not people. No one is saying to go around and scream Jap at people.
Using your logic, I then want the colours black and white renamed to something else, as these words are derogatory and used to belittle others.
Using your logic, I then want the colours black and white renamed to something else, as these words are derogatory and used to belittle others.
Do white and black people find it offensive when you call them white or black?
Do white and black people find it offensive when you call them white or black?
Both black and white have been used as derogatory terms to belittle people. So yes they are offensive to some people
So yes they are offensive to some people
The whole conversation is whether or not Japanese people find it offensive to be called Japs.
So the equivalent question would be, do white people find it offensive to be called white, and black people black?
So the equivalent question would be, do white people find it offensive to be called white, and black people black?
Then the answer is yes some do and like all 'words' its how its used. Go to the USA and call a black person black and see what happens.
But if people feel using the brand coon cheese (named after its maker) or jap pumpkin, when they have nothing to do with people as being offensive, then get rid of white and black, as these words have also been used offensively.
@JimmyF: Black is perfectly common to use in the USA, from both black people and white people. There's an entire movement called "Black Lives Matter".
Then the answer is yes some do and like all 'words' its how its used. Go to the USA and call a black person black and see what happens.
Americans certainly seem happy to use the description 'black person' - especially with all the media coverage recently. Can you provide an example of a black American who took offence to being called black?
It has already been established that some Japanese find 'jap' offensive as it was historically used as a derogatory term during WW2. I haven't seen any black people in the media or social media taking offense to being called black, though. In fact they're proud of it, so I'm not sure your logic holds.
@JimmyF: Usually for me it's being referred to as a white c**t by some lovely racists. Unfortunately you can't choose where you grow up as a youngin'.
Don't say Jap.
In America, the Japanese there find it offensive.
Exactly how is this relevant in Australia? Or are you saying we are now officially a state of the USA. (by the way America is a pretty generic term for a number of countries whose citizens may find your use of that term offensive).
by the way America is a pretty generic term for a number of countries whose citizens may find your use of that term offensive
Are you one of those white guys who thinks they're anti-racist?
by the way America is a pretty generic term for a number of countries whose citizens may find your use of that term offensive
You're clueless.
Never came across anyone who found the term "America" referring to USA, offensive. Type "America" into Google. News media like Yahoo, SMH, Murdoch Press, Forbes, Guardian refers to USA as America all the time.
Exactly how is this relevant in Australia?
Because we are not shut off from the rest of the world. It's a derogatory word. Millions of Japanese in America find it offensive, the decent thing to do is not say it at all. I work in a multinational company in Australia and lived in North America and would never use that word.
There are also thousands of Japanese-Australians who came from USA and live in the lower north shore area of Sydney.by the way America is a pretty generic term for a number of countries whose citizens may find your use of that term offensive
Are you one of those white guys who thinks they're anti-racist?
Not too sure exactly how you jumped to that conclusion from that statement.
Never came across anyone who found the term "America" referring to USA, offensive. Type "America" into Google.
Firstly you never used the term USA, just America. Secondly, the second result on Google illustrates what I was saying - not just your blinkered Americanised view of the world.
For the non USA centric version this still applies -
"Currently, almost all of the population of the Americas resides in independent countries; however, the legacy of the colonization and settlement by Europeans is that the Americas share many common cultural traits, most notably Christianity and the use of Indo-European languages: primarily Spanish, English, Portuguese, French, and, to a lesser extent, Dutch."And many of the residents of those countries do definitely get upset when you make assumptions about what 'America' means.
Because we are not shut off from the rest of the world. It's a derogatory word.
Just because something may or may not be a derogatory word in some part of the world does not make it the same everywhere in the world - again you seem to have a very US view of world importance.
There are also thousands of Japanese-Australians who came from USA and live in the lower north shore area of Sydney
Any chance we could see where that claim originated? Any real data? I have searched the latest Census data and cannot see any reference to Japanese-Australians from the USA so would be interested to see your source. All I can see with a quick look is over 30,000 people in the whole of Australia who speak Japanese at home.
Not too sure exactly how you jumped to that conclusion from that statement.
Because you're so daft and think Australia is the centre of every Australian's universe. Bet I was right. You also place too much worth on your opinion.
Firstly you never used the term USA, just America. Secondly, the second result on Google illustrates what I was saying - not just your blinkered Americanised view of the world.
I'm going to keep calling USA, America.
I am honestly not going to bother responding to you. You clearly have never been to the Lower North Shore of Sydney or know anyone who lives there. Everyone in Sydney knows that's where the majority of the Japanese community live and I have Japanese friends and family friends who are married to people in that community. That area also has the highest concentration of Japanese restaurants. A regular dining spot of mine.
Just because something may or may not be a derogatory word in some part of the world does not make it the same everywhere in the world
I'm trying to stop you from acting like a racist. A white guy saying "Jap" is not going to go over well.
Because you're so daft and think Australia is the centre of every Australian's universe. Bet I was right. You also place too much worth on your opinion.
From which orifice do you pull this conclusion? You seem to be having both sides of a conversation inside your own head. Please read my comments a little closer as the things you are reacting to are not even being posted.
You clearly have never been to the Lower North Shore of Sydney or know anyone who lives there. Everyone in Sydney knows that's where the majority of the Japanese community live and I have Japanese friends and family friends who are married to people in that community. That area also has the highest concentration of Japanese restaurants. A regular dining spot of mine.
Again, exactly where do you pull those assumptions from? Sounds more like you are the one with high regard for their own unfounded opinions.
I'm trying to stop you from acting like a racist. A white guy saying "Jap" is not going to go over well.
Which white guy saying "Jap" did you see in any of my comments?
Please learn to read the actual content without filtering it through your 'ready to be outraged' filter.
It was always offensive to say that word in Australia. I'm guessing you never had any friends or knew anyone of that background. Growing up in the 80s, 90s to now in Australia it carries a stigma. There's obviously a few countries and races that the shortened version is derogatory to them so don't use it. Not that hard.
Please read my comment a little more closely - at no point did I say it could not be offensive.
The point was - why say do not do something here because it is wrong in America (USA).
Interestingly he refers to 'the Japanese' in America - racist term based on ethnic background? Are they not Americans?
Yes, calling a person Jap is definitely derogatory and goes back to WW2.
The pumpkin thing is a little more complex because it's usually just shortened so they can fit it on their signs, e.g. they aren't necessarily calling up the derogatory origins of the term, it's just a shortened noun without that context. As in, it's not coming from a nasty place.
But given the origins of the word, it does make me a bit uncomfortable when I see it, seems a bit tone deaf to me.
I've heard the term "Jap crap" in reference to cars but hadn't thought it to be insensitive or racist.
That phrase was racist as it was a term of hatred with no grain of truth. The 1LR-GUE is one of the world's most loved engines. The last Japanese lemon I saw reported in the press was the Australian built Magna. The term was used by crap sales people to sell noncompetitive 'Australian' cars and morons to justify paying extra for non Japanese brands.
That said, the hatred is mostly gone and the term is used tongue in cheek today to sledge mates.
The official term for Japanese people in their native language is “nihonjin”. Disclaimer : my wife is Japanese.
Once flew to aboisso airport , it had a rather undesirable airport code
Is saying easy peasy Japanese racist? I was told it is.
I was also told it was. Hmmmmm
Easy Peasy Japanesey isn’t from a war, it wasn’t used as a derogatory term against someone. It’s from
Shawshank redemption which was released in the 90s and it’s adding ‘y’ to the end of ‘Japanese’. So…. eh
It means Just Another Pumpkin! They are also known as Kent Pumpkin
First the thread about the rise of so-called "casual racism" on OzBargain and now this thread about a word most people never encounter in their daily lives?
Is OzBargain being brigaded by some BLM/Antifa-aligned "woke" snowflakes or something?
I guess so. This is 2020
Yeah imagine people not wanting to have racist comments said to them! What is the world coming to… With a name like Amar would have thought you'd support these times to stop this. Unless the name isn't anything like your real name. In that case you've never experienced racism, so you have no idea what it's like to be treated differently. For someone who's had issues from growing up to adult life for the colour of their skin, I can tell you racism has always been a big issue in Australia.
Yeah imagine people not wanting to have racist comments said to them!
The era in which the word "Jap" might have been associated with potentially racist or xenophobic sentiment was 75 years ago.
At worst, in the contemporary era it's slightly derogatory (though still very rarely encountered), but that's kind of offset by the fact that Imperial Japan during WW2 committed some of the most horrific atrocities against all of the conquered nations of the Pacific rim, justified by their extremist racial ideology of Japanese supremacy, and especially against Allied POWs (which included Australians like this man), so if they can get away relatively scot-free with genocide, war crimes, inhumane acts of torture and barbarity, and to this day largely admit no wrongdoing (hell, Shinzo Abe claimed the Japanese sex slaves during WW2 known as "comfort women" were voluntarily recruited), then former Allied nations can get away with calling them Japs.
With a name like Amar would have thought you'd support these times to stop this. Unless the name isn't anything like your real name.
So the metaphorical hill you've chosen to make your hilariously misguided "anti-racism" stand on, is the word "Jap"?
Not the Uyghurs in China being exterminated on the basis of their ethnic identity?
Not Palestinian people living in an apartheid state that runs the world's largest open-air prison?
Not the Kurdish genocide that Turkey is still carrying out under the world's nose?
Not all the non-Muslim minorities in Iraq and Syria being relentlessly persecuted, kidnapped, ransomed and murdered?
Not Boko Haram's war on Christians in Nigeria?And not the other egregious examples of real racially/ethnically-driven hatred and violence that are continuing unabated around the world and always have, while ridiculously myopic Western academics, political activists and intentionally-divisive news media continue to chip away at some of the most tolerant and diverse nations to ever exist with their hysterical cries of rampant racism, all the while the entire Third World immigrates en masse to said Western countries in order to flee their violently hateful homelands.
In that case you've never experienced racism, so you have no idea what it's like to be treated differently.
You have no idea who I am or what I've experienced. Sufficed to say, I'm a foreign-born, non-native English speaker from a culturally-disparate country that fell apart due to an ethnically-driven civil war and I can't stand people like yourself, so go let the steam billow out of your ears trying to process this anomalous viewpoint that shouldn't exist according to your monolithic view of "diversity".
I can tell you racism has always been a big issue in Australia.
No, you can't tell me jack sh*t because everything you're parroting right now are talking points drilled into your head by several generations of social engineering and carefully-constructed propaganda and have absolutely nothing to do with anything original you've deduced based on your own knowledge, and you honestly believe virtue-signalling on an Internet forum is a genuine means of effecting change in a society.
We can continue this discussion when you graduate uni and travel the world more; until then, stop pretending you know a goddamned thing about racism and stop thinking the real world operates like a critical race theory/social sciences unit.
Whoah that is a burn!!! well done!
Wow. So Ive only experienced racism through media and social engineering? Sounds like that is your defence for allowing racist comments. It was used 75 years ago but now it's not an issue? Do you think time helps derogatory terms when it's still used in that way? Almost all racial slurs began decades to centuries ago too. For me, a person living in his 30s who has been through all levels of education, sporting leagues and workplaces and had racial prejudice against me the whole time. Teachers laughing with the students who were racially abusing me in PE or being beaten up for my skin colour. Not to mention travelled the world… But yeah all the times I've had racist remarks said or done to me is just in my head? I get the feeling you're just an Aussie pretending to be foreign. I'm not only talking about one incident that's on these forums, I'm talking about all racism in every form. Only because you denied it being an issue yet you say you find so many other racist things going on around the world. What a hypocritical response. It's a disgrace and you are a serious part of the problem if you think that any of it is ok. Racism is making another person feel bad or insignificant because of their race, skin colour or religion. If you are who you say you are then its you who needs to grow up and start feeling empathetic to others, as you would have to be young to not experience any of it being someone of a different background here. Seems to me you just stay in your little bubble with your known friends and family. I've even had so called friends who would say things behind my back or after an argument about race. Naivety is your problem. Like I said, you have no understanding of the term in this forum as you haven't had any Japanese people that you've associated with or were friends with. So until you start to talk to them and hear if they think it's something insignificant then you can have a say on the issue. I can tell you from the Japanese people I'm friends with and have known in the past all of them do not like it and it's more because of the tone it's used in. I'm waiting for the response next where you'll say I've had many Japanese friends and they don't care… Any negative responses to my comment and plus for yours only further proves my point in this country. If you think this is the only time I've tried to stand up to racism you're dead wrong. Have to congratulate you on coming up with a great way to cover you being racist to make it seem like I haven't experienced any.
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I honestly could care less about who you are, where you come from or what your experiences were.
This isn't about you, though I know you'll probably have trouble coming to terms with the world not revolving around your feelings for once.
If you could just stay on-topic for 2 seconds without resorting to childish tantrums and ad hominems whenever your fragile world view is challenged you wouldn't have to spout a wall of verbal diarrhoea that manages to say even less than your previous 4 sentence response.
The word "Jap" is not symptomatic of some hidden menace of racism in Australia, nor is it overly racist (certainly not in the context the OP was referencing), as its perception depends entirely on the person using it and their intent like so many other dual-use, colloquial slang terms that can be regarded either offensively or positively (e.g. the c-word in Australia, the n-word in America, women using b*tch amongst themselves, etc). It's also a term strongly associated with American-Japanese relations and found its most virulent usage in a racist context amongst Americans in reference to Japanese during America's said war with Japan; so trying to frame modern-day Australians who have are separated from WW2 by two or three generations as being racist for using a word that another country made famous as an ethnic slur is a ridiculous stretch.
Japanese people in Japan themselves use the word "Jap" in normal conversation and barely understand any negative connotations associated with it because of their limited English ability and lack of historical awareness. As is usual with modern-day outrage/PC culture, it's Westerners who have nothing to do with Japanese culture that are more concerned about the potential offensiveness of the word "Jap" than Japanese people themselves.
The meaning and significance of words naturally change over time and this is one such example. It's no longer WW2 and the whole bunker mentality and over-sensitivity over this word that people using today have zero direct ties to those who might have used it in a prejudiced and bigoted context historically, is just helping perpetuate divisiveness and intolerance by constantly dredging up historical grievances and seeking to punish contemporary people for the sins of their ancestors. Attributing collective group guilt to group identities is an incredibly dangerous idea and if you follow that line of thinking far enough you'll end up in league with the Nazis and the Soviet Union, both of them who sought to blame and persecute certain minorities and classes of people because of historical injustices.
Teachers laughing with the students who were racially abusing me in PE or being beaten up for my skin colour. Not to mention travelled the world… But yeah all the times I've had racist remarks said or done to me is just in my head?
Do you honestly believe you're a special little victim because you were bullied in high school on the basis of your appearance?
You mean like every other socially awkward and genetically-unlucky kid?Should every kid that was bullied go around for the rest of their lives sucker-punching anyone who looks at them cross-eyed because they've had a "tough" upbringing and taken a lot of sh*t? I suppose we can let criminals out of jails while we're at it because they're all victims of having underprivileged upbringings that made them break the law, right?
The world doesn't owe you anything. What happened to you is neither unique nor remotely out of the ordinary as a part of growing up and is not a justification to turn your moral crusade into a cause célèbre for the rest of your life.
You need to get over yourself and stop seeing racism everywhere you look because of the actions of a few malicious individuals that do not represent a wider majority; that's the entire premise of being a tolerant and non-prejudiced person.
Otherwise, according to that logic I should steer clear of black people because some of them have been convicted of crimes, or treat modern-day Japanese people badly because their nation committed unspeakable horrors against millions of innocent people in WW2?
That you need to have this rational premise spelled out for you in crayon suggests you really aren't emotionally or psychologically mature enough to debate this issue without your intense personal biases clouding your judgement.
I get the feeling you're just an Aussie pretending to be foreign.
Yes okay mate, everyone who disagrees with you is a neo-Nazi, alt-right, white supremacist shill going undercover on a bargain-hunting forum to trick people into believing conservatively-oriented minority "unicorns" actually exist. It's a friggin' conspiracy organised by Trump and the Republicans, run for the hills.
You're approaching such a parody of being a stereotypical SJW "woke" caricature that I could easily accuse you of doing the same: fabricating this sob story about the racial tragedies you endured during your formative years to give credence to your silly arguments and to silence anyone who dares to suggest you might be wrong.
I'm waiting for the response next where you'll say I've had many Japanese friends and they don't care…
I lived with exclusively Japanese students here on homestay programs for most of my teenage years as my family hosted them for a decade and my high school had an exchange program with a Japanese high school in Hyogo prefecture, and I don't once recall racism/offensive terminology ever coming up as a topic of conversation because for one thing, most of them were far more mature and level-headed than you are and secondly, they understood that cultural faux pas are common when two disparate cultures come together for the first time and such mistakes were mostly considered funny misunderstandings. It was also in the days pre-clown world where everything was deemed hysterically offensive, so that might explain it.
But of course, these are just more pre-programmed lies that us Russian bots use to fool you gullible idiots so we can rig elections and I've never experienced true suffering because you've got a gold medal from the Oppression Olympics, so I am unworthy to speak before you.
If you are who you say you are then its you who needs to grow up and start feeling empathetic to others, as you would have to be young to not experience any of it being someone of a different background here.
I do feel empathetic towards those genuinely suffering in the world. They are by and large not the loudest and polemic voices speaking of injustice and equality and they are by and large completely unrepresented and forgotten by the mainstream voices of hysterical outrage against social injustices.
What people like yourself are really seeking is to be excused for your current unfavourable predicament and personal failings in life because of either:
A) events in your past.
B) larger forces conspiring against you.This is a mentality and a psychological state that transcends notions of race, culture or privilege and permeates populations in a parasitic fashion, making them dependent on others for their very survival and predicating their happiness and satisfaction on things which they had no legitimate influence over, thereby absolving them of taking full responsibility for their life's outcomes. It's a deceptive trap that people fall prey to when they're demoralised and subject to a lifelong torrent of brainwashing.
Using JAP as a shortened name for Video Games, Pumpkins and other products (Japanese version) NO.
JPN is also a code used for Japanese products.Referring to Japanese people YES it is offensive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZTioTkHcB0We're Gonna Have to Slap the Dirty Little Jap & Uncle Sam's the Guy Who Can Do It ~ Carson Robison
(World War 2 Propaganda Song 1942)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqtgnP4si8It has nothing to do with Japan. It is the type. Queensland blue, kent, butternut, jap ( stands for just another pumpkin)
Well, it certainly was kinda a bad name to choose! Wonder who chose it…
This is a lie told by growers to continue using the name. It's a Japanese variety, kabocha.
In New York and some other parts of the US, a JAP stands for a Jewish American Princess. At least for older generations.
Pommy is offensive. Jap is offensive, Russkie is offensive. Apparently the only thing that's not offensive is Aussie but I'm working on it.
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Russky means Russian in Russian. If you ask them how to say these
English Anglisky
German Nemetsky
Indian Indiysky
Polish Polsky
Russian Russky
Im from Scotland, when people call me a "Scot" i dont give a (profanity). People are looking to be offended. Bigger problems in the world that nation names being shortened for faux offense!
"Scot" is not slang or an abbreviation, it's the standard noun. "Scotland" means land of the Scots.
Each individual finds offensiveness differently. Assuming calling some one a "Jap" is offensive is predetermining for other people. If something is offensive, let the individuals let you know. Unless Japan releases a statement then i assume they're not going to concern themselves with the the word. Also context has a massive part on wether something is offensive.
So we called the Japanese Japs in WW2 while we were at war with them and now Japanese are offended by Jap. What did the Japanese call us in WW2? Most honourable gentlemen? Something like that?
JAP = Just A Pumpkin, it has no reference to the country, people, albeit, people do get this impression.
False etymology.
False… and you keep saying that like you know what it means…
Pumpkins - Jap
It may just be an old wives' tale, but it is said that Jap pumpkin derived its name from growers who weren't sure of how to market it, so they chose the acronym of Just Another Pumpkin! The Jap pumpkin is similar to a sweet potato in texture and taste – it has a nutty flavour which is ideal for roasts and cakes.
The Japanese pumpkin is also known as Kobocha and is under the species of Cucurbita maxima. The JAP or Kent pumpkin is under Cucurbita moschata.
In this case, it has nothing to do race or country of origin. So, your call of "false etymology" is, ironically, false.
JAP = Just Another Pumpkin.
False etymology.
JAP Motorcycles…..
No, not a Yamaha or a Kawasaki. It is an English motorcycle.
Correct. John Alfred Prestwich (1874 – 1952) was an English engineer and inventor. He founded the company JA Prestwich Industries Ltd in 1895 and was a pioneer in the early development of cinematography projectors and cameras. The company also manufactured its famous JAP motorcycle engines.
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They japanese pumpkins?