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20% off Olight Javelot Pro $223.96 / Javelot Pro Hunting Kit $279.96 + Free Shipping @ Olight

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Wilkshire13 on 27/08/2020 - 18:16 olightstore.com.au (197 clicks)
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Another day, another Olight deal added to the Elite sale.

Both orders qualify for a free I3T OD Green AAA torch as the order value is over $159 but under $299.
Sale ends Midnight Friday 28th of August 2020

Sports & Outdoors Olight Torch

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  • muchape on 27/08/2020 - 18:28
    +1

    Is the I3T OD any good i use the small ones when working on the car

    • Wilkshire13 on 27/08/2020 - 18:34
      +1

      It's a very usable 180 lumen AAA torch, so small form factor, with a rubberised tail switch. Great for around the house or light duty EDC. Far more useable than the flash on your phone and has a nice soft beam/hotspot. If you are looking to buy one on sale, if you create an account, log in and then follow the instructions here - https://www.olightstore.com.au/sharegift you will get a free I1R2 added to your cart at checkout. Similar output but smaller size with a built-in rechargeable battery.

      The only two torches I carry with me daily if that helps!

      • Tuba on 28/08/2020 - 21:10

        Waiting to see how the keyring Olight compares to my Trustfire Mini01. Not expecting too much considering the TF uses lithium

  • [Deactivated] on 27/08/2020 - 18:56
    +2

    I really wanted to like the Javelot Pro (and many other Olights) but uncommon battery and proprietary charger? Put me off Olights until they get their shit together.

    • Wilkshire13 on 27/08/2020 - 20:56

      You might be waiting a while, they've got an almost cult-like following in the states, who buy them by the truck-load as they are. You can use non-proprietary [customised, protected] batteries in some of their torches, but you will lose the mag charging as that requires the customised cells. It's not for everyone, but they still sell really well.

      On a related note, a customised Olight 18650 3500mAh battery is $24.95 and the 3600mAh is $26.95. In comparison, a Klarus 3400mAh is $28.95, a Fenix 3500mAh is $34.95 and a Nitecore 3500mAh is $39.95

      Considering the price for a protected cell, I can't see the issue in having a few Olight specific batteries for torches that require them when they are cheaper

      • [Deactivated] on 27/08/2020 - 21:08
        +2

        The issue with proprietary stuff isn't necessarily the price. It is the space.

        When packing for a trip, there is already a whole lot of stuff to pack. More if it is a specialised trip like hunting (which this torch is sort of marketed towards). I already have a charger full of 18650 and AA for radio, lanterns and a few other doodads. If I forget to carry something for a non proprietary torch, I can easily use my spare batteries or from another device.

        With proprietary gear, I'm stuffed. Unless I want to always carry the torch in the case with all the parts, I'm potentially carrying a baton.

        BLF (Budget light forum) commissions production of torches based on community input. Much better torches but pricey in Australia. They try to use as few proprietary parts as possible. Even the switches can be modified.

        Olight may have a cult following of torch enthusiast but I can't imagine any of them actually use these things.

        • ruprectaus on 28/08/2020 - 14:00
          +1

          I have one Olight, great torch. Has 2x 18650s. The reasons you mention are why. Same reason I want stuff that uses USB-C. I am okay with the ewer 21700s but I don't have any devices that take them yet.

        • Wilkshire13 on 28/08/2020 - 14:01
          +1

          I guess it really depends on your use case for the torch and how much you rely on it. For the average person, the Olight formula may work perfectly fine for them but for the more demanding user the lack of versatility is a hindrance. Different strokes for different folks!

    • Tuba on 28/08/2020 - 21:15

      The chemistry isnt really mainstream and thats an issue for many sellers of the devices that use it. Proprietary batteries means youre using batteries of a certain build quality and as a business they like that for safety reasons. Even brand name batteries (Sony, LG, Panasonic, Samsung) are copied and faked. The wrappers were readily available from China. The batteries can be an accident waiting to happen, knockoffs, misuse, mixing charge levels, cell quality, laptop pulls, letting them sit idle too long then bunging them on the charger because you can with AA so why would these be different (dendrites). And if watertight, they are a pipe bomb, not to mention the hazards of HF gas poisoning that results when these types of cells go nuclear. Ensuring only protected cells, and quality built cells can be used offers them some degree of negligence protection in markets where they are liable such as Australia.

      Im sure they enjoy the profit reasons too.

      • [Deactivated] on 28/08/2020 - 21:27

        Perhaps your reason is true - idiot proofing - but if a company thinks its end user are people that are too stupid to operate a charger or incapable of taking responsibility for using cheap batteries, I'd rather not be part of that user group.

        Imagine if cars were made so only the dealership could service it? They'd have a better reason to do so than a flashlight.

        • Tuba on 28/08/2020 - 21:36

          Not really, when you grasp how dangerous the chemistry actually is. And the habits of people who grew up with AA to mix and match, not to mention the insane practice of saving them used batteries for rainy days or light duties in remotes etc. JUST BUY NEW BATTERIES PEOPLE, its not 1954.

          Its not using hte charger, its the right charger. Knowing when to retire a battery that still works. Knowing how to match pairs or sets for use in multi battery lights. And all that in a world with knockoffs and cheap nasty crap from places like China. Its just a torch, very few get it enough to listen let alone learn.

          Ever seen one go off? I notice you mention BLF, I havent posted there since before OL passed away but it was pretty well readily available to see the damage they can do. Like 2 years inability to breathe and still not getting better as one members lungs were burnt from HF he let off from a torch with incorrectly matched batteries . Let alone the shrapnel from a metal and glass torch. Ive seen shattered glass on balastrades and doors, as the parts of the torch explode with a 1300 degree fire inside their airtight spaces. AA just leak and maybe stuff the device. Lithium bites you hard.

          More reason, I doubt it. Mainstream use of lithium usually comes packed with safety features to idiot proof it. Phones for example use a safer version of the chemistry in lipo, laptops have sophisticated circuits that ensure if one cell is sus the battery wont work. When a laptop battery dies, its usually just one cell. Same for power tools like 18v drills. And even then, accidents happen. This is just a torch, using the same techniques to limit dangers of the chemistry.

          • [Deactivated] on 28/08/2020 - 22:02

            @Tuba: I'm sure there are incidents, tragic incidents. It is not much different to people in cars. We cannot keep lowering the standards to meet the lowest common denominator.

            I have seen them go off when spearfishing. I've seen them in real life and I have seen plenty more on YouTube.

            Apart from users that are obviously doing something out of the ordinary, I don't believe that having proprietary gear decreases adverse incidents. The one time I watched a torch go off on a dive was one that was assembled, plug and play from the dive shop. The battery compartment has never been opened, never modified, has had a few uneventful runs and blorp… Bubbles under water.

            I completely understand if you feel you're getting some added protection by having little to no user serviceable parts. It remains to be seen for me.

            (And I don't use lithium batteries underwater for that very reason…)

            • Tuba on 28/08/2020 - 22:18

              @[Deactivated]: I dont own any Olights, but i just purchased two today so my wife has her favorite green to match her Buck lock knife. I have over 40 torches, many of which are multi battery series and parallel, some Ive made, or modded from hosts, countless batteries of numerous sizes and at least 5 or so chargers.

              I was saying why Olight might choose it. I even cited numerous other industries that do likewise and improved safety in response to fires and the risks of the chemistry. They all have circuitry to circumvent misuse, laptops and power tools all use chips and boards to protect the cells and prevent people introducing catastrophic incidents and to monitor charging.

              • [Deactivated] on 28/08/2020 - 22:30

                @Tuba: I disagree with your proposition but appreciate it nonetheless.

                I have 4 lights and they live in the back of the ute. All charged with micro USB and I keep a D4 charger plugged in with more 18650s on standby.

                I'm replacing the lot from active duty when I can find the equivalent for all of them with a USB C charger. God bless universal parts.

                • Tuba on 28/08/2020 - 22:31

                  @[Deactivated]: Youre entitled to disagree with various multi hundreds of billions, even trillion dollar industries business decisions.

                  Oh I forgot too, pretty sure IIRC the big brands, Sony, Panasonic, LG and Samsung, refuse to sell them for individual use like torches as they insist buyers install them in units with protected circuits. The system is bypassed often as I have genuine cells from all of those, and I assume those big names ignore the practice, but they dont directly sell them for individual use even if you buy a million at a time.

                  Maybe Olight is honest and is meeting its obligation to its supplier so they can source quality cells directly from the manufacturer, and needed a circuit that was consistent in performance, size and fit so make their own or source it under strict standards.

    • ebosh on 28/08/2020 - 21:58

      Not to mention they insist on cool white emitters for the majority of their lights…

      • [Deactivated] on 28/08/2020 - 22:03

        Unfortunately, most consumers like the cool white temp these days.

        I'm not fussed… I option most of mine with a red filter/emitter.

        • ebosh on 29/08/2020 - 09:03

          Unfortunately, most consumers like the cool white temp these days.

          Most consumers don't know any better since the cooler temps tend to have a higher output, and manufacturers like to advertise bigger numbers. Most consumers also don't realise that an increase from 500 to 1000 lumens doesn't appear twice as bright in person, never mind 900 to 1000. Technically the cooler temps also don't throw as far, and rarely have a half-decent CRI

          • [Deactivated] on 29/08/2020 - 09:06

            @ebosh: Yeah. Two ends of the spectrum - lumen hunters and spec sheet shoppers. Looks like you and I do no fall under either.

            Best torch I own is the one that works when I need it to work. That rules out anything that doesn't have a versatile charging option out bush.

            • ebosh on 29/08/2020 - 09:14

              @[Deactivated]: Ha, I'm firmly in the ~4000k high CRI camp, but I'm going to diverge on the versatile charging option. For me, simple is better which means no USB or magnetic charging, and don't get me started on proprietary batteries. I'll just take an extra cell (or 2) if I think I'll need it.

              • [Deactivated] on 29/08/2020 - 09:18

                @ebosh: I used to think USB charging isn't a must but if I had to choose between:
                1. Carrying spare 18650 (and making sure they're charged)
                2. Carrying a power bank/car charger and a few USB cables.

                I'd choose the second option everytime. It is more likely I'd have items that cannot take 18650 or have a built in battery, ie. comms radio. There's just too many things to carry.

                I'd like to see the industry move towards USB-c charging for all but the biggest, most redundant hyper throwers.

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