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Intel Core i5-10600KF $369 + Delivery @ Shopping Express

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One of the few intel CPUs of the 10th gen that wasn't panned by critics. The 10600KF is excellent in gaming performance, and when overclocked often is at the same level of performance as the top tier i9-10900K (fastest gaming CPU) in most games. 4.1GHz Base Clock with 4.8GHz Turbo Boost, 6 Cores 12 Threads, Unlocked for Overclocking, iGPU disabled.

Makes this CPU a decent option for those focused on gaming performance. Not bad at CPU intensive productivity tasks (e.g. rendering etc.) either but an AMD R5 3600 is definitely much better value in that regard.

Delivery seems very reasonable (under $11 for me in NSW)

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  • +4

    Damn, that's a good deal. Would have purchased over my 3600 personally.

    • +1

      haha 3600 is still great chip. It will serve you will.

      Sadly, there will always be better deals after you purchase :(

    • -3

      The deal gets even better when you factor in what you save on your heating bill in the winter.

  • +1

    Are we all building PC’s at the moment?

  • -3

    Not team red

    • +9

      its a company, not your friend

  • +5

    can't complain about this CPU price, so let's fire towards the MOBO price

  • What?????? What price!!!

  • +3

    Good if you're pairing with a 2080 Super, otherwise save your money by going Ryzen and putting it towards a better GPU meaning you get both a benefit in gaming AND productivity.

  • what motherboard?

    • +2

      Look for Z490 motherboards. Search for the MSi Tomahawk, ASUS Tuf Gaming, Gigabyte Aorus Elite, Gigabyte Vision G as Z490 motherboards with good VRMs (which can even handle upgrades to the 10 Core i9-10900K in the future without throttling when overclocking). Those are the least expensive quality Z490 motherboard options

      • If looking for something relatively cheap, almost every z490 motherboard will handle overclocking a 10600k with the exception of the cheap and midpriced ASRock motherboards so main thing would be to avoid them.

        • yes that is true if looking to stick to a strict budget and replacing the CPU later is not a likely consideration

      • Good post, very precise. Vision G is an excellent choice but has no wifi. Guru3D has its performance on a par with or slightly better than mid and high level z490 mobos. Got the vision for $310 from amazon.

    • +2

      https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/174288740112

      $249 with the current CA sale, which is cheap for Z490. Doesn't look like the best motherboard feature wise, but does have a USB C port, very good VRMS and would probably handle an overclocked 11900k if you ever wanted to. Probably looks like the best cheap Z490.

      Z490 priced are a bit ridiculous compared to AMD though, and you get nicer motherboards with AMD generally, but it is what it is.

      • Yes if you're after a cheaper barebones Z490 motherboard just focusing on VRM performance and ability to OC 10th Gen CPUs, the MSi Z490-A Pro or ASUS Prime Z490-P are good options. They lack features like extra I/O ports and have basic audio etc. but are good quality boards.

        Here's an overview of the lower cost Z490 boards and how they perform: https://youtu.be/rdgNEXpBrfg

  • +1

    Also with this deal can get 10% off a number of Z490 boards + free shipping.

    • How long is shipping from SE?

      • +1

        Hmm not sure, I've not ordered from them for a while.

      • About on par with Umart, they're quick to deliver (1-2 business days max) but they certainly charge you the privilege for it

      • +1

        I ordered a PSU & SSD from them on Friday (July 31st) and SSD arrived Thursday (August 6th) while PSU arrived Friday (August 7th). Both were parcel postage shipped from NSW to VIC (not express).

        • Good to know thanks, sounds like they are reasonably efficient.

    • +1

      How did you find the 10% off on the motherboards? All I can see is a promotion with MSI for a steam gift card if you buy the mobo and cpu.

      • Same. Cant see the 10%off

        • +2

          Try this:
          https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/Intel-10th-Gen-CPU-Motherboard-Graphics-card-ram-seagate-bonus-razer?utm_source=Shopping+Express&utm_campaign=c39a2b47b5-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_1_30_2020_15_17_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3a40a1df4e-c39a2b47b5-373654881&ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_1_30_2020_15_17_COPY_01)&mc_cid=c39a2b47b5&mc_eid=d6ccd89431

          • +1

            @rocket142: Wow thanks. How did you manage to find that page though. I spent 20mins looking on their webpage myself and I couldn't find any promotions page.

          • +1

            @rocket142: Thanks, shame not one of the ones i was after

  • Why this over AMD ?

    • +5

      It’s a fair bit faster in gaming

    • +2

      For a user that is going to mainly play games with a high end GPU on their PC this might fit their use case better than a Ryzen 5. In productivity this is no slouch either but the 10600KF's performance in many of those workloads is similar to the significantly cheaper Ryzen 5 3600

      • +2

        Looking at HardwareUnboxed video at most a 10fps difference at 1080p and 8fps at 1440p in games.
        Not sure if $110 + Z490 requirement is worth 10fps at 1080p.

        • Probably closer to 15% difference which is quite significant.

          https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3592-intel-i5-10600k-c…

          • @rocket142: As I've always been saying:

            If you're playing at 1080p which is the resolution you'd see those gains you probably don't have a top of the line GPU or 2nd to top of the line. With the savings from going Ryzen you could get a better GPU and see better gains than the 10600K would bring you. If you've already got a top of the line GPU you're probably not gaming at 1080p, so it's a less than 10% difference.

            • @Void: With a RTX 2080/S/Ti you wouldn't want your CPU to be a bottleneck (unless gaming at 4K) so the 10600K is IMO still the better option - not to mention you can add decent 4000+ ram to get even more performance - Intel XMP is still better. AFAIK the GN review uses 3200C14 which arguably suits Ryzen more than Intel.

              Once Ampere/Big Navi arrive the 10600k will be better placed as the lower end CPU could start to bottleneck even @ 1440p (in current games anyway). Of course if you have a Ryzen you can upgrade to Ryzen 4000 but then you'd have to buy both a CPU and a GPU

              • +1

                @rocket142: Ok this is difficult to explain, but I'll try to keep it simple. The 10600K is not less of a bottleneck than the 3700X despite having higher fps in games. This can be attributed to Intel's architectural advantages, namely the monolithic design allowing significantly lower memory latency and no CCX latency. Basically you just lose a flat percentage on AMD. So a 9700K can outperform a 3700X, but it's going to be more of a bottlebeck down the track when the architectural advantages can't save it.

                Basically: 10600K and 3600 with matched single core performance (3600 performs worse in games because of the latency penalty) are equally as much of a "bottleneck" even though the 10600K yields higher framerates.

                • @Void: Hmm there are a few things here:

                  • The 9700k will hit a wall eventually as it only has 8 cores. The 10600k is 6c12t, same as the 3600. It’s not going to bottleneck any faster than the 3600.

                  • The 3700x is 8c/16t so it will bottleneck later than the 10600k but is also more expensive than a 10600k so I’m not sure how it relates to the savings you mentioned earlier. If comparing 500 dollar cpus might as well compare with the 10700 which is also 8c/16t and again enjoys a similar lead over the ryzen

                  • 10600k is around 10% faster than the 3600 in single core at stock, even faster when overclocked and with high speed memory (which Ryzen can’t do atm)

                  • +1

                    @rocket142: It's just an example. It seemed as though you thought whichever CPU has higher frames with x GPU is going to be less of a bottleneck, but that isn't the case. Also yes you can run high speed memory and overclock the Ryzen CPU, if you want to do that with the Intel CPU you have to shell out for an expensive Z490 motherboard too. There's plenty of people who run 3800CL16 Rev.E with 4.4GHz all core on new 3600 batces.

  • Good price. Only issue is that PCIE 4.0 isn’t supported on Z490 Mobos. Apparently gigabytes mobos are sorta supporting it, but I’m not really sure how it works. Friend was looking to upgrade and it was the only thing stopping me from recommending this, since AMD already do support PCIE 4.0 and Zen 3 launch is imminent. What do you all think, is PCIE 4.0 even that important?

    • PCIe 4.0 should be supported on Z490 motherboards with the 11th Gen CPUs to be released in 2021 by Intel. The Z490 Motherboards have been built to support PCIe 4.0 (although many ASUS models might be a bit iffy on that point) but there is no official announcement yet from Intel.

      • +1

        Intel not changing the socket again for next gen?

        Doubt.

        • +1

          All leaks so far and historical precedents indicate that the next gen called Rocket Lake S (11th Gen) will stay on LGA1200 and will be supported on Z490. Alder lake (12th Gen) will come out on a new socket LGA1700 and different chipset.

          It has generally been this way with intel motherboard chipset generations since the Sandy bridge era. For example Z68 supported Intel Core 2nd gen on release in 2011 and 3rd gen later on when that came out in 2012. Same with Z170 that supported intel 6th gen and 7th gen, also Z370 supported 8th gen and 9th gen.

          It is only the intel chipset generations released in between those aforementioned ones that could only support the current intel gen at the time of the chipset's release and not the future gen after its release.

          For example, Z270 (released after Z170 but before Z370) only supported the newest 7th Gen on release (with backwards compatibility for 6th gen) but not the 8th gen that released later. Of course AMD has done one better for example, with X370 allowing you to go from Ryzen 1000, to 2000 up to the 3000 series.

  • how does this do against the AMD ryzen 7 3700x?

  • +1

    If you have a good cooler you can OC this upto 5.1 GHz too

    • +2

      You can get 10900k level performance without too much work. Gamers Nexus has a good guide on that…

      Great deal for gaming rig.

  • Assuming SE get these direct from Intel, RCP pricing for this part is $237 USD = $331 AUD. Plus 10% GST = $364. Am I missing something or is SE's margin for this literally $5?

    • There's probably some distributor kickbacks/bonuses that we don't know of

  • Is a 9600KF ($260) and Z390 motherboard ($199) good value??

    Asking for a mate :) Shame missed the 3600XT deal at $359

    • Yeah that is also more than enough for gaming, the jump to 10th gen will give you a bit more base/boost clocks and more OC headroom (The 10600k has been OCed to upto 5.2 GHz matching the i9-10900k but your mileage may vary depending on your chip)

      Just see price differences and decide if the couple extra fps gains is worth it for your friend

    • 9600KF is still very decent for gaming esp when overclocked to 5+ GHz but the Ryzen 5 3600 blows it out of the water in productivity applications and is quite close in gaming performance

    • Why is it a shame when you can get a 3600 now for ~$100 cheaper and get the same performance?

      • Game Nexus disagreed with you…

          • +1

            @Crono: If you choose a select few in that review like GTA, sure its near. Most of the time its +10-20 fps.

            An OC 10600k is near 10900k performance. It's the best value for performance gaming CPU.

            If you are on a budget and rationalising, you could save another $200 to 3300X and get performace slightly under 3600 performance.

            • @eatcrow: You must be confused, read my original post and the post I was replying to: i was comparing the price of the 3600 to the 3600xt.

    • is AMD bit more future compatible with motherboards?
      Just seems for gaming, Intel is actually better in some regards.

  • +1

    Seems like a good CPU but the 125W TDP is a joke. That thing is hotter than a Pentium 4 3.6.

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